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>>8400038
It's absolutely magnificent.

>>8400109
Tell me more, anon

read the fucking book

>>8399976
Don't touch IJ or GR yet. Don't listen to anyone else telling you to. Tackle them after you've read like... 50 other books or so.

Look into an actual Plato reading order.

Atlas Shrugged isn't hard, but it's fairly retarded and hilariously long.

Crime + Punishment is an all-time top book, make sure you get a good translation. It's also a fairly easy read, just pay attention to who the characters are.

Dune is fine too.

>>8400000
Dude, nice get.

Anyways thanks for the advice. Would you have any other suggestions for a pleb?

It isn't terrible, but if you really don't have too much baggage when it comes to literature you should avoid IJ and GR, Ayn Raind will be a waste of time, Dune can be fun, expecially if you didn't read a lot yet, its decent genre fiction.

Of this list go for C&P first, maybe read some "light" Dosto first, like eternal husband, notes from the underground and the house of dead. His works are really well rounded and you can get a lot out of Dosto, Also read The idiot and Brothers Karamázov after C&P.

I would suggest some smaller books (under 500 pages) first, go for Kafka, Nabokov, Flaubert, Woolf, Buzzati, Calvino, Tchekov, Camus, you can't really go wrong with these. After this try to read some Shakespeare and Tolstoy, and go for bigger, more dense books. Try some epic poems, at least read Iliad, Odyssey, Aeneid, Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost once in your life.

The meme trilogy are really hard for someone that isn't used to reading, in the sense that you probably won't get much joy out of them.

Also don't fucking rush, read slowly, don't fall for the speedreading meme

Who

No, but she's a good writer

>>8399948
I love Toni Morrison

but no...just no

I put books on there when I feel like I might want to read them soon then I take them off when I have finished.

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I just stack them.

>>8399900
I tried organising onece, and then I figured that I mostly read only two at a time, so I now just pour everything on that I think I'll read, and when mem is full, I dump everything and start again.

Die wahre Religion.

shut the fuck up and speak proper gooblety gook you nazi prick

>>8399878
*französischen
lern deutschen, Neuschwuchtel

the people who need to read this book the most are those who'd never actually sit down and read it. they might wikipedia it/look up some commentaries and summaries, but never actually read it. and there's something terribly sad and banal about that.

>>8399875
This. It's nearly (though unfortunately not entirely as Franzen's godawful mr. Difficult essay shows) impossible to get through without a great deal of self awareness.

>>8399860
i read it lmao
it was hard but i did it

Do whatever the fuck you want. I don't know what you're trying to do so I don't know what you could be missing.

>>8399871
Well I am new to reading so i started with the 'Starter Pack'

>>8399879
just pick one and read. if you dont like it keep at it, if it gets insufferable move on to another one. if you go through ~5 and you hate them all find another hobby.

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>>8399825
>book called Infinite Jest
>expects the book to end unjestingly

Read the first chapter again.

>>8399825
>he doesn't realize the title is a reference to the scene in hamlet where yorick's head is dug up, implying they dig up joi's head
>he doesn't realize the book itself is the master tape

>>8399837
>he doesn't realize the book itself is the master tape
this is objectively incorrect

Such a shit thread. Jesus christ. Please delete.

Nope, you have to do things to determine your baseline competence at them.

Even then "natural talent" is horseshit, you just accumulate skills over your lifetime, and by the time you're old enough to be cogent of your own personal skillset you've already begun to specialize towards tasks that interest you.

Persevere in whatever field you desire and skill will come.

>>8399806
First you must learn that you don't know anything yet. Start with Greeks.

>yes, I would, indeed, describe myself as an avid reader!

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>haha, no I don't read for plot, a serious reader such as myself only reads for the prose!

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>>8399775
>I don't read.

I prefer legible copies free of printing errors and unstained with human bodily fluids or foodstuffs overall.

>>8399727
But does it have good annotations?

SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER

On Saturday
Anna had stayed over the previous night. We cooked a pizza covered in large black olives. I hadn't eaten olives in over a year and delighted at the taste, and she insisted that I eat them all. I felt guilty at having expressed my delight and perhaps pressured her into sacrificing whatever fondness she herself had for them, but still she was serious enough and so I ate all the olives, though I made sure to compensate for her selfless gesture by cleaning the kitchen and fetching two glasses of water filled with ice cubes to our bed later on. The bedroom is around twelve feet in width and twenty feet in length, with wood-paneled walls, a sloping ceiling on one side, a square and relatively small window, and a single bed, amongst other things. After staying in bed until ten am, Anna playfully announced that we should get up and that it was unhealthy to stay in bed all day. I was tired and desired to stay in bed longer, though eventually I joined her in the shower cubicle and we washed each other and giggled under the warm spray. The bathroom was full of steam when we stepped out of the shower. I opened the window and the steam was sucked out. We sat in damp towels on the sofa drinking coffee. I felt young and healthy as I smelled Anna's shampooed hair. We drank black coffee and ate cinnamon roles before she left for the day. I read some stories by Chekhov and the novella "The Pidgeon" by Patrick Süskind. I wrote a little over four thousand words.

On Sunday
Anna and I rode bicycles belonging to one of her grandmother's neighbours down along the water to Slåttevik and then, spontaneously, we decided to keep cycling over to Hervik, where we sat on a bench and ate ice cream while our bicycles rested against each other, an image which to me appeared to suggest they were a pair of working class lovers, that is to say we were their employers in some form of manor house while the bicycles were two servants, a male and a female, who embraced each other while we weren't looking. Anna told me her thoughts on the writing of Michel Houellebecq, and I felt a great surge of pride because I have read much of his writing and have formed a rather elaborate opinion myself, which I only summarized in a way that would not appear patronizing in response to Anna's own short speech on the matter. I did however feel something of a need to explain that, as hideous and mean-spirited as many of Houellebecq's male characters and narrators appear to be, a degree of empathy is necessary to view them as defeated and bitter men often rightly contemptuous of contemporary society, rather than simply evil individuals who serve only to espouse the disgusting beliefs of the novel's author. We sat in silence for a while and it was worth as much to me as an intimate conversation. After a while she patted my thigh and kissed my neck and we first walked beside our bicycles then cycled back to her grandmother's. Her grandmother made us dinner and then I left them to return to my cabin. I watched the movie "The Comedy" and it effected me the way few movies do, inducing a sense of guilt and self-disgust despite its laconic dialogue and sparse plot. It reminded me of the movie "Slacker" by Richard Linklater, which was similar in its slowness but almost inverted in its moral "message", in the sense that "Slacker" appeared to primarily critique the corporate culture dominant in the 1980s (though it did not portray the eponymous slackers in the movie as faultless by any means) while "The Comedy" attacks the slackers themselves, or their contemporary equivalent, which serves to provide very uncomfortable viewing for the kinds of individual who are likely to watch such a movie. Last night I wrote a short story about two neglected teenagers who build a home of sorts in an abandoned community center near their home.

I've been writing for about a month of two now. I feel like I've really begun to move forward with my aspirations and life. Im much happier now and I think it's having a positive effect on my life as a whole. My actual writing itself isn't the best yet. Though I feel I have all my ideas in place, my prose is pretty bad. Do you have any tips on how to improve prose?

>im just reading an introductory book to the philosophy of martin heidegger ?

Really makes you think

>>8399674
damn...

>>8399674
sorry that question mark was a typo

>>8399639

desu that's what you deserve for attempting to kiss their ass by writing about such a subject

>>8399639
Then you prove your heritage and sue them for racism. Learn to use the liberalism.

>>8399639

looks like rick owens' dad

one is done on the typewriter and the other is done on a computer

>>8399612
One was once fine art and is now the medium of plebs, the other pretty much always was.

>>8400549
>Medium for aristocrats
>Plebs
memeing aside I think both were fine arts, but screenplay degenerated a lot quicker into mediocreness