regardless if you like their ideas, who do you think had the greatest influence?
>>8491958
Plato, Aristotle, Jesus.
it's difficult to quantify something like influence, but those three are the top almost objectively, I would say.
>>8491970
You can't read.
>>8491958
wittgenstein, wittgenstein and wittgenstein
Is Cormac McCarthy one of those meme authors that /lit/ talks about so much?
i liked blood meridian
The idea of meme authors is a meme
>>8491917
No, that's Patrick.
Hey /lit/. I don't really ever visit this board, but I frequent /mu/ a lot.
I'm really into experimental subgenres of music. Usually that means toying with compositional techniques, tonality, sounds, and production in order to get a unique listening experience.
I've heard of experimental literature before, but I really don't have any idea on what that means. What elements would an author have to incorporate into their book to classify it under the "experimental" genre? And perhaps a better question, do you actually hold this genre to a high regard, or is it a meme?
Some examples would be great. I just had this thought today and was interested to see what people who legitimately care about literature have to say.
A book is classified as experimental when (like in music) it modifies its style and structure in unusual ways to change the perspective from which the narrative is told. There is a lot of experimental literature in the modern and postmodern movements. Joyce, Pynchon, Beckett, Woolf, and Gaddis all come to mind as being seminal "experimental" authors
>>8491894
It depends on the experiment. Oneohtrix and other recent electronic stuff reminds me of bricolage stuff like Burroughs/Tzara poetry and sometimes Pynchon novels. Also have u tried google yet
>>8491961
Google gives me popular book titles. I was hoping to get the general concensus among avid book readers, and if they're respected.
And I guess your personal favorites.
I still have no idea how this book got its title.
Ernest Hemingway titled it.
It's a dick joke
Who says the contents of a book needs to have anything to do with its title?
Hi, /lit/. I just have started a philosophy course and the teacher asked us to write an essay about whatever subject related to it. I haven't read enough about philosophy and I don't want to be adressed as a pretencious person. So, I was wondering if you could give me some suggestions about any theme that I can study/read and write about it. Thank you.
>>8491846
>pretencious
>>8491863
sorry, my mother tongue is not english. I'm really ashamed of my english vocabulary.
Pretentious*
stick with the basics. literally look up anything that has to do with those old greek/roman philosophies. or you could do something more recent like the age of enlightenment.
The last book i read was Minority Report (i guess it's technically a short story).
I am reading both Frankenstein and The Journals of Lewis and Clark.
The next book on my list is A Scanner Darkly
>no caps pic
>not in caps
saged, reported.
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Last book(s): Lolita and the stranger
Currently: Love in times of cholera
Next: I don't know yet
For all the /lit/izens that speak spanish. I wanted to ask if some of you read "A Farewell to Arms" by Hemingway in spanish, and if the translations are good. I recently started reading english literature in the original language. But today I found a nice copy of this book very cheap in some library. Would you recomend reading it in english or can the book be enjoyed in the translation?
I'm with a little PTSD for the time after I compared the english version of Catcher in the Rye with the spanish one, and the second one was totally shit and skiped a lot of the use of words Salinger try to convey (even if a lot of it could be translated with no problem).
Hope to get your answer so you could help me choose if I should buy it or spend a little more money in the english version.
>La cara cuando hablas a gente en español en ingles. Díganme si vale la pena leer "Adiós a las armas" en ingles o la versión traducida. No sean putos.
>>8491769
So let me get this straight, you're looking towards the minority of people here who happen to speak Spanish
Who also happen to also speak English
Who also happen to have read Hemingway
Who also happened to have read his translation into Spanish
Just get a fucking English copy mate
>>8491769
I literally just finished reading this, but in English...
if you wanna talk about the book in general, I would appreciate it....
>>8491797
well, I didn't read the book already, but you could send me some info contact if you wanna talk about the book once I get it and finish it.
>>8491782
No, mate. There's a minority of people here that speak spanish, sure, but enough to ask a question about translations. I'm just trying to get to someone who read the book in spanish. I don't know if you talk more than one language, but in that case, I could read any translation for 10 pages and know it's a shit translation. My example of catcher in the rye, and the reason of why I'm reading things in english, is because a lot of this translations (especially the ones that come from Spain) are really shitty, especially in the case of modern literature, where's theres a lot of slang in it. So stop being edgy and contribute or just go shit into a thread you could have at least a valid opinion.
7 chapters in, why does Greene keep bitching about how awful Mexico is?
Because Mexico is awful.
Just read part 4, why does Bolano keep bitching about how awful Mexico is?
>>8491756
Because it's Mexico
I've read and very much enjoyed the Dune books. I heard this is on a similar playing field.
Is this books too reddit? I fucking hate reddit's taste in books (not to mention music and TV shows) and I know this book has been praised on reddit.
Am I going to get near-Dune levels of enjoyment? Or am I going to get stupid reddit garbage?
It's not reddit. It's not as good as Dune. It's alright. There are some great parts. Some parts drag.
>>8491748
>science shitsion
hohoho
it's not reddit, and i liked it more than dune
No prose critique thread?
Here's my story, which has been aggressively edited thanks to feedback from you all.
https://my.mixtape.moe/xrwizj.pdf
Sup, /lit/. I just moved here from Pacifica, California, which is on the other side of the bay from here. On the other side of the peninsula, which is probably the least hip town in the whole Bay Area. And you can get a nice ratty apartment there with a nice panoramic view for about $700 bucks a month. Anyway, this is something I wrote while I lived there. It's called Pacifica.
My balcony looks over Eureka Valley.
In the evening, I get to watch the land turn the color of brick, and then aluminum.
On the hills there are trees: eucalyptus and Monterey pine.
And in the sandy bed, a housing development.
Often, I catch my eyes, sliding easily - as if they rolled on bearings, or had been oiled - off the identical rows of houses of people, and back up to the more peculiar trees.
>>8491673
>$700 bucks
>>8491673
Your sentence structure is unnecessarily complex.
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missionary
> Greetings. I am a /lang/ missionary from /int/. A few weeks ago we started the creation of an /int/ernational language for shitposting. I bring our work for anyone that wants to join
>>8491562
Sweet
Kindly devote your time to translating Finnegans Wake into your new language and let us know when it's done
>>8491562
ok, do you like books though?
so is this an international NEET language? If so this is kind of amazing
The Avant-Garde Reactionary Book Collection
https://mega.nz/#F!JIpXQAAZ!xyoPXTD38ItxJCvUYooWtA
>Thomas Sowell
>St. Aquinas
>Tolkien
>Ann Coulter
truly red pilled my fellow red pilled friend but where's Art of the Deal
>>8491527
>not all in English
>>8491527
>no nick land
trash
I am a successful self published author. I make $5,000 per month writing stories. Feel free to ask me anythinh AMA
>>8491520
do you write commercial trash
>>8491520
What do you get from lying on an anonymous image board?
>>8491520
Assuming you're in short stories, where you informed or influenced by the short story writers of the 20th century?
Do works of fiction require a moral to be learned after reading?
Can stories exist simply as imaginative voyeurism?
>>8491503
It's a Victorian idea that literature has to be edifying, but reading can have that power.
>>8491503
Just about anything can 'exist,' anon
Ideally a work of fiction or nonfiction gives you knowledge. Something to think about once it's over. Otherwise it's just a waste of time
That knowledge doesn't necessarily have to be an easily digestible moral, but there should be something that at least raises questions or gives you knowledge about something
why was he trying so hard to be the frank zappa of literature?
>comparing Pynchon to Vance Vliet's bottom bitch
>>8491459
>Vance Vliet
>Pynchon
>still alive
>all photos of him appear to have been taken in 1853