Archived threads in /lit/ - Literature - 2899. page

>>8495299
Europeans for some reason don't give a fuck about American writers, although for some reason they love Hemingway. I've met quite a few well-read Europeans and the only American motherfucker they ever seem to care about is Hemingway.

>>8495303
so what was the European reception of Moby-Dick?

>>8495307
I'm talking about today, but IIRC, in England it was better received than it was here. Obviously, it didn't have much of a greater spread than that because it wasn't popular enough to be translated and lol illiterate irish peasants.

>>8495294
It reads like a hurried epilogue to Dune, at times it feels like Herbert is already preoccupied with the next book and is just going through the motions to humor you. Some people like it but the general consensus is that it's kind of shit, but also necessary if you want to go to the next book.

I'd stop after 4 if you're going into the series unless you don't mind being left off on a cliffhanger forever, in which case 5 and 6 aren't bad, but they aren't as thematically rich as the first and fourth books which are the best points of the series.

Dune is a very thematically rich yet stylistically mediocre to poor series. God Emperor epitomizes the series in that respect. I highly recommend it regardless.

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I did the same thing, except my copy of messiah was $1.75. It was the edition in your picture.

Never got around to reading it. Just looked for it to confirm I paid $1.75 for it. It's not on the shelf to the right of Dune.

Maybe I'll never read it now.

>>8495310
So is the third book better than this one, then?

The most vivid account of a medically performed castration in the history of literature.

Also an entire page of a dominatrix shitting into an English general's mouth and the precise emotions he feels at different stages of the turd's descent down his throat.

I think at some point a twelve year old is stripped naked and whipped till she bleeds by her own mother on a pleasure cruise, too.

>>8495230
plot.

One of the most ridiculous novels ever written. Most attempts to describe it usually miss one or more of its essential layers so I'll go with the least helpful, but most accurate answer: just read it.

the one in the middle, that's why she's the only one with a Nobel

>>8495203

corncob mccarthur

>>8495203
One of these is not like the other.

The fuck? If you want whore shit read his prostitute books, not his historical works. Also Europe Central is amazing, you're a fucking pleb.

>>8495288
>i am gonna defend my meme author despite being proven that is trash

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>>8495388
>meme author
Vollmann is the 20th century's Pynchon.

>>8495142
I have no idea, I've never read it or heard of it.

What prompted you to read it and why was it so bad?

>>8495154
I heard it would help me get girls but it hasnt at all

>>8495142
gray matter, probably.

What are "forms"?

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>>8495101

>>8495101
I see them as the pure, unpolluted essence that all things are a reflection of: roundness, blackness, goodness, pleasure, etc. The Forms always exist beyond space/time and we are cognizant of them before we are born and before we "learn". How else would we be able to determine that things are pleasing, good, etc. when we have nothing to compare them to? Things cannot exist only relative to each other; there must be a pure, true form they are all based off of.

All things we see in this world are pulled from the forms. If you try to describe anything that exists, you must describe it using innate properties such as squareness, largeness, color. Therefore, all things that we see are only in existence because of the Forms. Forms, then, can be said to be reality, whereas the world we live in is just a copy, or reflection.

I'm aware this idea gets expounded on more in Republic, but this is what I gathered from Phaedo

>>8494998
Well I dont even know who he is, so Im guessing no

>>8494998
Over. You mean overrated.

He's rated pretty highly by Oprah and sells well because of it. Not to mention all the awards and top novels lists he's on, so I'd say no.

Don't browse it. I find the best way to avoid it is to read a truly engrossing book.

>>8494977
This. Neither /lit/ nor any other board on this website is really that fascinating.

>>8494989
Time to time some curious shit pops up tho

what are you talking about, there is no suicide in the wardine passage, nobody dies in the wardine passage, if you have an original reading of the wardine passage please share

>>8494916

For real?

>>8494893

I think its because he deals generally with existential crisis type things. And he has a large non-/lit/ type of following who think they're /lit/ because they've read Infinite Jest and Vonnegut.

>>8494941
>And he has a large non-/lit/ type of following who think they're /lit/ because they've read Infinite Jest and Vonnegut.
he does?
ive literally never heard any mention of him outside of this board

>>8494830
neechee

>>8494830
U so cheeky

>>8494829
Lang, Fitzgerald, or Fagles

George Chapman.

Fagles is the fucking worst, stay away from that shit.

monti and pieces from foscolo

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>>8494712
Thanks!

>>8494691
Darth Pelagius, the wise?

Babyfucker by Urs Allemann

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op here i got some more details something action horror. with all the bizare shit tied down to some deeper theme

>>8494856
Seems like you want a manga.
Parasyte was fun (and got a recent "meh" adaptation of an anime). It's very 80s, but still holds up fine.
>themed about what makes humans human and what is humanity

There's also Devilman from the 60s.
Super dated art... And VERY dated style. (Can compare and contrast to the "rerelease" collab Amon. Not a real rerelease, but sections of Amon are parts of Devilman.)
>Also deals with human nature

Both are pretty good reads, but Devilman is VERY dated.

>>8494638
Eyeball, I was calling them optical spheres before

Cs Us and Ts.

I learned that word from /lit/.