I can't find a page on the wiki or anything, my apologies if it exists and I did not look hard enough, but what is the best translation of the Divine Comedy? Could anyone post the image with the list of different translations in different forms? Should I read the Aeneid before reading it because it has Virgil in it or something?
hollander
>>8494878
thank you <3
John Ciacco is the best for one volume.
Are Non-Fiction readers even human.
Simply patrician.
>>8494597
>Reads plenty of instructional textbooks
>no qt
>no friends
>Browse 4tran
>Definitely not human
Non fiction is the gluten free of literature.
ITT: books that reminds you of yourself so much it hurts
Have yet to write it after VR kicks off
It's as if this book was literally written about me. It's kind of scary.
lolita desu
What languages are you learning for literature, /lit/ ?
What strategies do you use when reading in languages you aren't fluent in ?
I've been using a combination of Wiktionary and Google Translate to find the meanings of words I don't know when reading Spanish and it's going pretty well, but it's slow as fuck and doesn't seem like the most efficient method.
Ancient Greek (learning Attic but also plan to learn Homeric and Koine) and Japanese.
I would also like to learn Portuguese, French, German, Latin, and Nahuatl.
>>8494305
Spanish, with a kindle dictionary (the one which I think is natively packaged into spanish kindles). Going fine.
>>8494452
>Ancient Greek (learning Attic but also plan to learn Homeric and Koine) and Japanese.
Both of those are languages that I started researching around the same time. Ancient Greek got boring fast and I just stopped with Japanese for some reason, but I'm still planning on going back.
What's your progress on both of those ?
>>8494499
Do English Kindles have that ? I have one that I haven't touched in years, but it might be useful if it gives definitions of Spanish words.
You fucking what?
four pages were of actual Epicurus and the other 245 pages were written by some dick head telling us what Epicurus wrote down.
I paid 10 pounds for this shit?
Fuck penguin classics. I didn't buy this book for for some nigga to tell me shit second hand. I don't want his fucking opinion I wanted some comfy theraputic philosophy and instead got some jackoff who likes the sound of his own voice.
I do not reccomend this book at all
>Epicurus was a pussy anyway
t. Nietzsche
>>8493953
>instead got some jackoff who likes the sound of his own voice.
Sounds familiar?
>>8493953
>instead got some jackoff who likes the sound of his own voice.
haven't read this book but i'm pretty sure, that this jackoff spent a lot more of his life on this topic or philosophy then you ever will. so stop being pretentious and read that shit, you might actually learn something.
What does /lit/ think about free will?
If you have no thoughts one way or the other, I recommend giving this a listen. Worth the hour investment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAnlBW5INYg
Further, if free will doesn't exist, does that mean God or some higher power has to be real?
>>8493941
>urther, if free will doesn't exist, does that mean God or some higher power has to be real?
How in the world does the second clause follow this first, Anon?
>>8493994
t. not Thomas Aquinas
>>8493941
The nonexistence of free will is not a proof of existence of a higher power.
I personally think that there's enough evidence to doubt that we have free will. What is more, who we are (mind/spirit) is almost certainly linked to our physical brain. And everything that's physical follows the laws of nature, which seem to be either deterministic (classical physics) or random (quantum mechanics).
If free will doesn't exist, that just means we're like kids on a rollercoaster.
I just picked this up at the library but I've never read any philosophy before. Should I read it? Is it as cumbersome as Moby Dick?
Which translation is it?
>>8493794
Should start with his dialogues first, then The Republic.
>>8493796
John Llewelyn Dvies and David James Vaughan.
It's Wordsworth.
Tell me how to write an original medieval fantasy novel without dragons, elves, and dwarves.
Gnomes nigga
Fairies neighbor
>learn to write
>write a fantasy novel
>don't include dwarves, elves or dragons
>???
>profit
It shipped. Is /lit/ ready?
>>8492236
Who cares about your meme shit, Jerusalem is coming out
what the fuck
>>8492238
Fuck outta here
whats your hype level 1-10?
10..another review just came in that said its a masterpiece
https://scifibulletin.com/books/fantasy/review-jerusalem/
just found my birthday present.
Thanks
x
I saw it being sold in a bookstore yesterday. I bought JR instead.
anyone here like Murakami? What do you think of him?
mayoi hell when
>>8490488
Norweigan Wood is pretty good. It speaks volumes on the condition of Japanese youth during the 60's. These types of novel's are were Murakami is at his strongest, as he is able to capture character's emotions very subtly through their dialogue.
Most of his other novels are too focused on "magical realism" and lose some of that nuance.
Read Norweigan Wood and try out Wind-Up Bird Chronicles if you're interested in him.
>>8490488
lots of people like and don't like him.
I think you should read him and find out which are you.
Norwegian wood is a good example of the first half of his career regarding the perspective and tone. he's got a lot of magical realism'ish things in many books but Norwegian wood is more down to earth. give it a try then report back.
The Autarch on His Throne Edition
Thank you to all the participating voters, including anons at /g/.
Recommendations:
>Fantasy
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General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
Previous thread: >>8480598
>>8488853
hey, why don't you link that poll now.
Whoever made that poll, I dare you to make a duplicate on Reddit and see what the contrast is.
>>8488853
This poll is statistically invalid because it didn't contain an "other" option. We have no idea how many of those voters had to pick a second or third choice.
I've suffered from depression and severe anxiety my entire life. I've tried every drug I could get my hands--anything to bring me to a different state mind. Last summer, I couldn't get out of bed for five days straight. I just curled in a ball and cried.
I just didn't "get" it... Until I read Marcus Aurelius's "Meditations." The man's words changed my entire way of thinking. How I saw death, interaction, duty. Courage, honesty. He spouts so much wisdom so plainly--and everything makes so much sense. It makes so much sense and it's all so true and right there in front of you--it's yours to seize. Or ignore, like I did--like I did, and suffered.
This book did more for me than myriad drugs, legitimate and recreational, and any doctor.
"Stop allowing your mind to be a slave, to be jerked about by selfish impulses, to kick against fate and the present, and to mistrust the future."
"Remember how long you've been putting this off, how many extensions the gods gave you, and you didn't use them...there is a limit to the time assigned you, and if you don't use it to free yourself it will be gone and will never return."
"Stop being aimless, stop letting your emotions override what your mind tells you, stop being hypocritical, self-centered, irritable."
"Yes, keep on degrading yourself, soul. But soon your chance at dignity will be gone. Everyone gets one life. Yours is almost used up, and instead of treating yourself with respect, you have entrusted your own happiness to the souls of others."
"The present is all that they can give up, since that is all you have, and what you do not have, you cannot lose."
"Forget everything else. Keep hold of this alone and remember it: Each of us lives only now, this brief instant. The rest has been lived already, or is impossible to see."
>>8485313
taste the holy bible and ye shall be under the shadow of the wing of a great king of earth
>>8485313
Are you me? I've been going through a similar process of reflection. It's really good shit and I've been able to heed Aurelius's considerations and apply myself more willfully in day to day life.
>would recommend to depressed and anxious losers
I never really got the charm of the Stoics since their idea of a good life seems so arbitrary or at least painfully commonsensical in a normie pleb way. It's good goy: the philosophy.
Why are sci-fi, fantasy and other action oriented genres considered low class in the world of literature? What makes them pleb material?
Pic related given the latest release
>>8482496
It's a pretty great game.
>>8482496
Lack of respect of publishers for fans of the genre. They could be discriminating, selecting quality over quantity. They could look for the needle in the haystack. I would love to see Dalkney or NYRB create a sub-publisher that looks for classic, overlooked works of fantasy, western, scifi.
But as of now, go to a barnes and noble book store. The massive shelves of books where you either recognize the first book in a series like Dune, you recognize the brand but not the books like Star Trek, or you dont recognize them at all. The publisher thinks that the only people who will consume them are undiscerning greasy star trek nerds, and unfortunately they are probably right much more than half of the time.
I personally reject the argument that world building, plot, and character development are less important to prose, but some would also make the argument that for genre fiction to work, you sort of have to focus on that stuff more than prose.
>>8482496
>Why are sci-fi, fantasy and other action oriented genres considered low class in the world of literature?
these genres are basically multi-generational fandoms where becoming an author is an extension of being an obsessive fan. so works are judged and understood in terms of how deftly they reference the nostalgic canon. this deus ex game you posted gains legitimacy from endlessly referencing the original game from 2000, which in turn was legitimized by nods to prior canon of cyberpunk and conspiracy fiction. you'll notice that the fans don't care about the meaning of the game itself, but rather authenticity and fidelity to tradition: is it a TRUE deus ex game? or a mere impostor? much like back in the day there were debates over whether the original deus ex was PROPER cyberpunk: "cyberpunk has to have X, Y, Z and deus ex only has X and Z! oh, maybe it's post-cyberpunk, maybe that would make it ok to not have Y."
once you realize science fiction is a fandom, a social phenomenon, you can see that this exclusion, real or perceived, from the world of "high art" is in itself necessary for the functioning of the fandom. back in the 70s stanislaw lem noted that the american sf scene loves stroking its ego, inventing new awards to give to themselves, accepting those awards with speeches full of hyperbole; but the second serious criticism is applied to sf, the writers and fans recoil: "it's just a fun story about rocket ships! silly crap for kids! did you expect shakespeare? leave us alone!". so there is this old tradition of the sf fandom embracing its exclusion from "high art" whenever it suits them. a defense mechanism, like a dog baring its throat: don't kill me, i'm worthless! when danger passes, the sf scene goes back to awarding each other the golden supernova of literary excellence or whatever.
more broadly, this exclusion is what gives the science fiction fandom its group cohesiveness. complaining about the imagined ivory tower keeping you from sitting at the big boy table, about the dumb old english teacher that doesn't get that sf is better than whatever he wants you to read, about the injustice of it all: those are the social rituals of the science fiction fan. the attitude shifts wildly depending on the moment: you're proud that kurt vonnegut "made it" in the literary world, you're bitter than your favorite author didn't, or maybe it's all bullshit and you never really wanted these grapes. so on one hand you have this desire for acceptance and a bitter disdain for a real or imagined authority that keeps it from you, but on the other hand strong pride in being this "oppressed minority" and a fear that mass acceptance is the death of "authenticity". in the tension between those feelings the identity of a science fiction fan is born, and there is nothing more to science fiction than being a science fiction fan.
tl;dr: a sense of exclusion is the lifeblood of science fiction, not an injustice visited upon it by an external foe
I've held a couple of these in the past and they've been somewhat successful.
>>8465182
What is nietzchian politics
Please explain eternal recurrence
>>8465182
What is the best order in which to read his works?