I really enjoyed pic related, I've read it twice. Really comfy read. But it's not very challenging. Can anyone rec authors/titles that are more advanced, but that are similar to catcher in the rye?
Also general Salinger discussion thread I guess.
what features did you like especially? Similar to 'Catcher in the rye' is quite vague.
Maybe you like Beat literature in general?
>>9930978
>But it's not very challenging.
I bet you did not realise that he was raping Phoebe by yourself
Might be a stretch, but how about Norwegian Wood?
Ok, you memed me into reading this, now can you please explain what the fuck happened?
> What happened to Slothrop? Was he just an idea or something?
>Who were the factions controlling him?
> What was the point of the Schwarzgerat?
> Why were the Schwarzkommando building a new rocket?
>he fell for the pynchon/dfw/joyce meme
everyone knows they're all psuedointellectual writers who try too hard to be deep
>>9923861
and have u read them?
>>9923853
dude who gives a shit that's not the important part of the book. call them macguffins or something.
Thread for the best language. Post your work, critique others, discuss what you are reading, give recommendations, et cetera.
I'm intested in portuguese poetry. There was a fellow that came here with some really good poems, he even published a book. Give me yours. Anyway, I'd appreciate some opinions:
"Abdiquei-me do viver!" diz o miserável,
O homem a quem a alegria tornou-se dor
A quem a mágoa é amiga inseparável,
E única verdade do sepulcral furor.
"Viver é sofrer", exclama entristecido.
Enquanto erra, entre sepulturas
Haurindo lágrimas, desperado
Como homem ao inferno condenado!
E no clamor soturno de seu choro
Vê-se o fulgor da beleza terrena
E o esplendor do divino decoro.
Há na dor de cada sofredor
Uma flor tenaz, bela, rubra
Que arde, tão singular nesse oceano de ardor!
I want to pick up a copy of the Iliad. I have read parts of Fagles' translation of The Odyssey and didn't care for it. I've decided to start with The Iliad instead, and I'm torn between Lattimore and Pope's translations.
So, Lattimore or Pope?
>>9923717
Lattimore.
>>9923717
Pope
Fagles
What books should I read to become a better poet and understand poetry better than I do?
My friend just sent me an awful poem he did for a college class and I have no idea how to properly critique it and I think that's a problem.
Pic related, a POEt
>>9923709
Read poetry carefully
read about different techniques online and how they're used in both historically and in contemporaries.
At the risk of sending someone to reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ocPoetry/wiki/poetryprimer
>>9923716
>https://www.reddit.com/r/ocPoetry/wiki/poetryprimer
Wow, most of this I've never even heard of, instant bookmarked, thank you.
Baudliere
This has probably been posted here before...but is DFW's suicide note readable anywhere?
it has
its not
Can we get a thread going on books detailing how to learn, the fundamental nature of human thought and learning, and how it can be manipulated so that we can think and learn better? And not just books, but ideas, research, etc. on the topic as well.
>>9923879
Good choice
In your humble opinion, what is the best book of it?
As far as I'm concerned The Once and Future King is the only Arthurian novel worth reading.
>>9923650
Reread it last summer and was amazed at how well it stood up. Loved it as a boy, love it still as a youngish man.
>The cultural work done in the past by gods and epic sagas is now done by laundry-detergent commercials and comic-strip characters.
Thoughts?
>>9923602
I'm thinking of buying this.
why is that cover orange my cover is green
>>9923602
Momma's boy Barthes got worked by the French wrestling scene.
Is it worth reading?
Guys?
Yep
I'd recommend if it's the 10th/20th/etc science fiction book you've read. It's middling in it's literary merit, but important in the history of science fiction. If you read it too early you won't appreciate its magnitude, and if you read it too late all of its charms will have been filtered out by superior later works.
What is the literary equivalent of this picture?
>>9923557
Making the same exact stupid thread a day after the other one dies
what's the best translation for the tao te ching?
Is it worth reading?
>>9923436
Bump for interest
Only due to historical significance. As a book on its own terms it's terribly written and intellectually stunted.
>>9923457
I was thinking of reading that and The Communist Manifesto, is it a good idea if I'm a bit interested in politics?
Been meaning to read this for a while.
Is it worth reading? Are there any specific translations I should buy?
Its absolutely worth reading, and even if it weren't its hardly a slog of a read. That said, it has some great moments (the story of his rejection of Jeanne D'arc, his sexual obsession with St. Sebastian and its playing out throughout his life, his internal monologues about his inability to reconcile aesthetic and sexual beauty, his monologue about suicide). The Weatherby translation is going to be the most common and reads fine.
>>9923369
Thank you very much anon! :)
>>9923344
Very worth reading. One of my favorite works of his, personally; however, I haven't read Golden Pavilion or the tetralogy.
It's an authentic perspective on the experience of sexual abnormality in a culture that essentially demands normality. Japan's courtship process is stiflingly formal. That said, the book is heartbreaking at times.
What's /lit/ equivalent to Zero Escape?
what
>>9923350
What book share elements to Zero escape?
>>9923377
none