So I'm headed over to the Oregon coast for a weeks vacation and I'm wondering if you guys could recommend me some cold, salty ocean themed works of literature that would be really good to read while there.
I've picked up pic related once or twice but never got around to finishing it and plan to do so this time around, what else would be a good ocean-y themed read /lit/?
no ocean, but cold salty and oregon based sadness: So The Wind Won't Blow It All Away
Two very different yet relevant books.
Cannery Row by Steinbeck
and
Starfish by Peter Watts
>>8523443
>The last two books of The Rifter series are digital
Any other ocean sci-fi that might be just as good? I'm looking for hard copies of stuff.
Hey, /lit. What philosophers should I read before reading Heidegger, especially Being and Time? Also, do you guys have any secondary source recs?
>>8523260
Start with the Greeks
>>8523263
This, and don't skip the pre-Socratics.
>>8523263
Actually this. And Nietzsche. And Husserl. Descartes wouldn't hurt. Fichte. Hegel. Kant. Pretty much the whole canon. Or you just step right into it and see where you end up.
Where are all of the contemporary polymaths?
>>8523187
The intellectual disciplines have become too bloated for actual polymaths to exist. We are in the age of the specialist.
There are none and there won't ever be one because the sciences and philosophy are too complex and specialised to allow a single soul to read, comprehend, write, and tell the rest of the world about his grand synthesis and theory of everything.
But probably the best way of reaching the goal of a polymath would be studying maths (nailing down the undergraduate material) first for attaining a rigorous mind, some physics, cosmology, and biology, and then move on to the juicy philosophical issues; after a decades-long study you ultimately give a novel theoretical framework (= writing a (self-)published book so dense and complex and with some many theoretical prerequisites that nobody will ever attempt to read and comprehend it) or your life's work, that would either solve or explain these issues.
We internet now. Everyone is a genius. Technology has come so far. Just think, about 40 yrs ago we landed on the moon. Now you can whip out your phone and skim a Wikipedia page. Ain't progress sweet?
Do you prefer to read one book at a time, or several at the same time?
I like to read several at a time and allow them to meld into a single convoluted narrative
Does anyone here enjoy this book? I can't get into it.
Initially I liked the premise. The concept of a world filled with pleasure 100% of the time, corrupting and controlling the populace, a warning of a life of straight indulgence, all under the guise of control.
But after a while, the book just gets ridiculous.
> John the "savage" who WANTS to explore this new world, refuses to even attempt to understand it.
> He is painted as the only sane person in this crazy world of excess
> Flips out at a woman wanting to have sex with him , calling her a whore
> the savage is the only "civilized" one
> muh irony
> The extreme Christian overtones.
It gets to the point where this book gets downright preachy.
Thoughts?
good ideas but prose is shit imo
I liked the idea of the world Huxley created, but the actual story is just one unbelievable plot device after another.
Just don't let the savages run amock and the whole world is unproblematic. Sure, sometimes you get a production error and some edgy FAS lad pops up but those get sent to edgy island where they can be edgy to their heart's content with the other misfits.
Praise Ford.
>>8523153
Seems true of all his books. But they do have great ideas.
who is THE silliest goose of these two pranksters?
>>8523094
They fucking look alike, damn.Probably it's just the fact that both pics are in black-and-white, they both seem to have the same colored hair, and finally the same-looking eyes and eyebrows.
>>8523094
these goofballs always crack me up
>>8523094
Kafka, he's extremely subtle. Pinecone's a bit too other worldly for me.
yo, /lit/, how can I get my prose to be as good as Melville?
>>8523084
sorry kiddo, afraid prose is one of those thing you either got or you dont
and considerin your askin this question...
read lotsa shakey and kjv
>>8523084
Who the fuck do you think you are asking if you could ever in a billion years be like Melville?
Do you have any idea of the things he went through? The life he had to deal with? The work and passion he bled day in and day out for?
Get fucked kid, stick you fist in your arse and keep it there away from any pens.
She broke one of the biggest rules in all of writing: never use adverbs.
How did she get away with such amateur mistakes?
cause she's a shit writer that's why
>>>/k/ys
>>8523016
>How did she get away with such amateur mistakes?
easily and profitably
So, my copy is coming in the mail tomorrow. I am a bit nervous, this is actually a readable book right? If I can read a book like moby dick at least a couple hundred pages, and gather the general idea, I should be able to read something like this no problem, right?
i wish posting IJ covers would mean autoban on this board.
>>8523002
It trash imho. When you start to notice the dust on the furniture and want to iron clothes rather than read it, says all you need to know.
>>8523002
its not really a challenging read. its just long and can be tedious with the longer footnotes. maybe keep something light/shorter on the side for when you feel like reading but not feeling like slugging through the slower parts.
its a pretty good book though.
What is the best story written by Ray Bradbury in your opinion?
>>8522998
something wicked this way comes
>>8522998
Fahrenheit 451, obvs
>>8522998
I've read Martian Chronicles and The Illustrated Man. I'd say out of them all, The Long Rain was the one I liked the most for its depiction of hard never ending rain. Then Usher II.
"Refer to me as Ishmael."
>For in those deyes his Deyus shall ask of Allprohome and call to himm: Allprohome! And he make answer: Add some.
>>8522919
The large yet dignified Buck Mulligan walked down the stairs.
As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams, he found himself in his bed into a monstrous arthropod transformed
What are the best books (any type, from philosophical works to novels) on morality?
Why do you start your thread with a retarded question about "the best books on" instead of asking for recommendations for literature on morality - be it fiction or non-fiction. By asking for the best you ruin the thread before it even started due to demanding a ranking.
I write this not for you but for every retard out there who asks about the best books on anything. if you are interested in the topic, then say that and ask humbly.
>>8522916
The Holy Bible is the definitive book on morality.
Genealogy of morals
Why has France produced such a massive number of pseuds?
What's the bets OP hasn't read a single word of Derrida?
>>8522897
Triggered pseud detected
>>8522887
you've never read derrida or know anything about his philosophy or anything that he's responding to. Delete this and stop embarrassing yourself
This here book is sooo comfy, like holy, but wait Holy!
it's really fun
i read the part where gibbs and eigen goes to basts mail filled apartment and act like assholes
it was a hoot and a half
Mine is arriving very soon. Pretty fucking excited.
H O L Y
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But seriously: the suburban new york, the chill school, fall semester atmosphere, the wacky, sad, adults and their schemes. And JR, holy.
Books like stoner, the catcher in the rye, lonesome dove, and one flew over the cuckoos nest.
Also does anyone know any books with protagonists that are insecure about how intelligent they are?
>>8522851
being and time
>>8522857
>protagonists are insecure about intelligence
Read John Green. Even though he is the author this feeling is also seen in his characters