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What makes him so based?
I'm reading through Nicomachean Ethics and generally speaking he advocates for excellency of the human being. Master fucking race
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Reply to my thread faggots
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I prefer his metaphysics to his ethics
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>>8526731
only if you reply to mine

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I'm In desperate need of your help folks, I'm majoring in English starting from next October, there is this module called "linguistics" people say it's hard and all and I have no idea how to approach it, could anyone of you give me something I could read to sort of introduce myself to this subject, it'd be much appreciated.
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BUMP, PLEAS HELP ;_;
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>>8526347
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics
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>>8526377
Tha..Than...Thanks I guess

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Is this the most overrated book ever?
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no.
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No.
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No, it's amazing and you have poor taste.

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How do I read this
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open it
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>>8526290
crack it open and start by looking at the letters. Once recognized, see that several letters might make a word, something that you know the definition of.
String some words together, and attempt to understand the knowledge within
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with your butt

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I need your opinion of the content I wrote below. I wrote when under the influence of lsd, and am unsure of the coherency of it. I will not provide the plot, as I am more so interested in your opinions as you would normally read it. It is titled Disdain. I have more then 20,000 words written thus far. This is a rough draft.

As to Why I Am
Though I never had an explicit appreciation for violence, I have always been driven in favor of men who employ such methods of efficiency to gain proficient desires. Desire that renders progression. Acts of ruthlessness and the disregard for the lesser of people – solely utilized with the intent of achievement – enthrall my motivation for the achievement of my own desires; moreover, enhances the development of motivation. I realize such a disposition is antithetical to the creation and preservation of a placid society. I correlate placidity among boring virtues (although, yes, creation – of wealth, of intellect – can come from the bowels of ennui) and as such, I have disparagement for it purely predicated upon the lack of entertainment it provides me. That is why – when left to my own devices, unguided by the steel rails of agenda – I attempt calculated ‘degeneracy’ for its own sake; normally at the expenditure of others. I blame them for investing too much into me.
If ethicality is, indeed, subjective, then why is it considered of prodigious evil to impose my morality upon another; especially if my morality proves more proficient? Because something that insinuates superiority must be, at the least, obliquely bigoted. The amount of absence of acceptance of all fellow humans’ individual idiosyncrasies – especially those defined as minority – is somehow a metric of what makes an evil man. I am therefore considered a grand producer of evil by this society; of course, not publicly recognizable, for what calculated man who recognizes this societal normative does not thereupon hide his true propensities?
Cont...
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>>8526263
As to Why I Am Cont...
When one is born in L.A., they are indoctrinated with the notion of subjective morality as though it be a concrete metaphysical statement. I, unfortunately, render this statement unfalsifiable. My mother was a “peace and love” hippy: grown from the disgusting counter culture of the 1970s, with hypodermic needle scars as proof of the nurturing that decade gave her. My father, a draft dodger – a coward – was a professor of anthropology at USC. As most academics, he was a leftist, an implicit Marxist, a self-titled “champion of the HDI.” I believed his claims of greatness and credibility; what child doesn’t look to their father and wonder upon the immensity of their authority? My eighteenth birthday ended with me looking him in the eye and telling “I would have appreciated you more if you’d taken a bullet to the head in Cambodia” after he had been drunkly blubbering about the evils of European imperialism in Africa. O why this disdain for authoritative institution and “social constructs,” yet they look to equality as a desired dynamic? Egalitarianism is fully predicated upon an arbitrary desire (the foundation of a social construct) for individual equality – whether in the context of physical ability, opportunity, or justice. Apparently my preference of tradition (of patriarchy, of cultural superiority – or moreover the believe in respective cultural inferiority) angered my father; I was homeless until my twentieth birthday as a result. This is not a biographical description of my lethargic past, but a contextualization of what I will be remembered by: cleansing.
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>>8526263
Chapter One: Sexual Malice
I have never understood why prostitution is held by the moral with malice, for if happiness is the predicate of positive human condition, then it would seem it should be rejoiced by all. The solicitation of sex is much less stressing than the act of relationship building, especially with the modern breed of sex-desiring women – whom are very much facile and concerned with contemporary, short-term comfort. The vast majority of them are relatively sympathetic to suffering; however, this is not because of inherent, genuine concern, but because it renders them uncomfortable. They offer corrective rhetoric – most of it useless because of the emotional element that was the constructor of such notions. The societal normative of romance is to bond with one of these creatures and merge into a singular entity of love and rejoice; the fruit of which are graceful children and a contribution to the stability of society. I was never able to experience this dynamic. Every plutonic and romantic involvement I’ve had with a woman has always induced discomfort: they are always trying to apply change where it isn’t needed to induce comfort; moreover, trying to hide within a carefully built bubble of fake success – just as they hide their hideous faces in the powders and dyes they so utterly adore because these items allow them to adore themselves. I do realize this experience is majorly because of the young age of my past partners, who were slightly younger than me. At that age, sex is the pinnacle of existence, so to achieve sexual relations with an attractive man, a girl would need to cloak herself in the powders and dyes they deemed necessary to reach self-actualization. How pitiful of an actualization that must be – one built upon the superficial. Whores are no different in the same aspect of shallow beauty; however, whores do not ask you to change, they do not express their discomfort, nor do they burden you with their individual issues. Their concern: pleasuring the client for a much smaller capital obligation. There is a mutual exchange of service that, once concluded, leaves both parties more or less satisfied – something that a conventional relationship does not conjure. Don’t assume me a hedonist – I am not – I merely recognize the correlation between mental health and sexual activity (perchance I had read too much Freud in undergraduate years). I have yet to be dissatisfied by this method of amorousness and am therefore inclined to believe it will not carry me on the hedonistic treadmill: a perpetuating cycle of frustration and lack of gratification that I found myself on when following the conventional schematic of ‘love.’
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>>8526263
Chapter One Cont...
I am to be meeting my colleague, a fellow law student at the University of Chicago by the name Jean Luc Marlent at the Logan Square CPA station so as to go to a favorite solicitor of ardor: a run-down townhouse in Logan Square. I normally don’t seek this type of activity on a Thursday night, but he insisted on account of my twenty-seventh birthday. It’s a funny thing: the celebration of something so arbitrary, but if it makes those close to me happy, I cannot be opposed.
“How the hell are you doing, Bishop!?” he greets me in regular fashion. My name is not Bishop – that is the nickname I received because of my false religious proclivity: Catholicism. He knows this fakeness. Everyone in our group of pretentious fucks does. We all have “show ideology,” which is to say we all deceptively abide by conventionalities so as to appear favorable to the public. We are all aspiring politicians after all – bleeding heart Democrats.
“Why don’t we Uber to the place? It’s 1:20am and it’s a 20-minute walk, and goddamnit I’m tired.” He said.
“I prefer to walk; it is interesting seeing this city’s essence; besides, we have to talk.”
“About?”
“Albert.”
“I invited him, but said he couldn’t make it”
“He is running for representative in the 54th district; he may be psychotic, but he realizes that it would not be conducive to public approval if he were caught at a whore house. As you know, the public thinks sex is terrifying.”
“No shit. He had been talking about its potential for the past year. Does he have party approval?”
“Of course he does… They pushed him into succeeding Dr. Mohet after his pig of a wife died. He is overridden by grief.”
“I know; I’ve been his emotional crutch, sadly. I thought you liked Dr. Mohet; he has always been so kind to me at least.”
“I do, but his wife leeched on him and took energy from him and made him distracted. When I am under the guidance of a man, I prefer he prioritizes the agenda by which I am used for.”
Jean looked at me, then at the ground with blankness. I can tell he was under the influence of MDMA and alcohol, and he knew I knew. He is the only one in our group that enjoys these hedonist substances. I consider them degenerative. They destroy motivation. I constantly nag for him to stop – not due to my personal concern for his wellbeing, but since I have too much invested in him. I try to abstain from relying even moderately on people, but he picked me up during hardship when I was in D.C., and I cannot help but trust someone who has done so much for me. The silence continues; the conversation would continue with his sobriety.
The brothel was as it usually stands: a bleak and insignificant structure that had mediocrity seeping from the masonry. I generally do not care about physical appearance (of people or items); the deeper, substantive notions of what is manifested from the item or person is where my concern focuses.

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This is a thought I've been wondering about, maybe /lit/ can expand on.

So Nietzsche is full of praise for Schopenhauer. And Schopenhauer, in turn, always praises the Upanishads as being this wonderful discovery, this great joy of his life. And yet Nietzsche never seems to mention reading the Upanishads, or much Eastern thought at all, besides the few comments about Buddhism.

I understand, of course, that Eastern thought wasn't N's interest (although he does use Zarathustra/Zoroaster as his own namesake, I always assumed this was more anti-Christian than pro-Zoroastrian). And that philosophy is richer for his having written about the tragic, rather than the transcendent/nondual.

Maybe that's it, in the end, that the tragic and the transcendental are just two different systems that should have nothing to do with each other. Could be. But I can't help but feel like N would have enjoyed reading, I don't know, the Bhagavad Gita (or the Art of War).

I don't consider myself a philosopher or a mystical type, for what it's worth. I just find correspondence between Eastern and Western ideas interesting. So I'm puzzled as to why N didn't read the Upanishads, when a man he praised praised them so highly. I guess the Greeks were just that awesome for him.

Anyways, East/West philosophy general?
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he was ubermensch not a cosmo cuck
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Schopenhauer, due to the scant amount of translated texts, general European ignorance of eastern religion and lack of European speaking experts in the field generally misunderstood much of what he read. Nietzsche in the times that he talks of Buddhism seems to have made some of the same mistakes as Schopenhauer and for the same reasons he moves on from Schopenhauer seem to be the same he moves on from Buddhism.

In regards to eastern religion in general I'm reading an introductory book to Confucianism which I intend to follow up with one on Taoism and one for Chan Buddhism ('m on a bit of a China kick right now). I find the east interesting in that (as far as I know) they never did philosophy as we do it in the west. Philosophy seems to be wholly subsumed inside religion so that I would say rather than having philosophy they have theology. I'm hardly an expert and could easily be wrong on this point. Although it does raise the problem of defining what a religion is and it really isn't a simple task. Experts today are not decided on whether or no Confucianism is a religion or not.
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Pic related really has nothing to do with this post, it's just cool.

>>8526349

OP here. I've just come off a long China bender myself. Just wanted to recommend a good book on the subject. There are some sample chapters freely available from it here.

http://faculty.smcm.edu/jwschroeder/Asian_Religions_2015/textdownloads_files/Confucius%20chp1%262.pdf.

Agreed, that question of what or what is not a religion is huge. It becomes a part of how we define thought itself, whether things are dualistic or nondual. I like Chinese thought for this reason, because they don't have this language of choices, decision-making, and so on: the heart and the mind are one thing, and so there's a much higher role for the question of 'humaneness.' I think part of Nietzsche's reputation comes from the fact that he seemed to have been one of the first Western thinkers to really explore the unconscious (besides Schopenhauer...)

There's also the interesting fact that psychoanalysis, for example, doesn't seem to work in Japan as well...but it's Vedanta/Upanishads that I find the most interesting at the moment, which is why I made the original post.

Anyways, have a look at that book if you're finding the Chinese interesting, anon.

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When my book publishes I'm going to fly to new york and stay in an appartment with a new QT fan of mine everyday and do heaps of drugs and have adventures.

Any novels that are similar to this so I can not kill myself
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>>8526236
I would unironically fuck her.
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>>8526236
If that girl is your idea of a fantasy I'm glad you're realistic
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>>8526242
Why did you say unironically? Couldn't you have just said "I would fuck her"?

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is this faggot worth it? or just another postmodernist wanker?
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>or just another postmodernist wanker?

Just another Postmodernist wanker.
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>>8526199
>is this faggot worth it?
No. If you're interested in "theory" I suppose it is fine to read him
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>>8526199
madness is worth it imo

My interest in greek mythology was mostly fueled by Willy Pogany. - OP
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>>8526141
That centaurs cock should be at least three times bigger
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(((interest in greek mythology)))
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When my friend and I were kids, she had this old beat up book that was full of Zodiac readings. Dream Interpretations, The meaning of Moles and Idk what else. It didn't have a cover and the pages were coming out, but we treasured it.
Turns out it was just an old Almanac.

But I've developed an appreciation for woodcut illustration from it.

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actually crying right now. this book got me again. fuck :(
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>BUTT (with the sickle of a scygthe but the humour of a hummer, O, howorodies through his cholaroguled, fumfing to a fullfrength with this wallowing olfact).

whoa, that book really touched my heart
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>>8526121
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthugha Fomalhaut n'gha-ghaa naf'lthagn
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honestly john greens a fucking genious. pick a subject matter that will sell your book for your. del your book when the movie comes out. sell your book when the guy dies. sell your book when the girl dies. I fucking love this guy. he knows how to play people.

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I'm reading Tolkien's The Silmarillion, and the very obvious christian themes make me wonder: what is a good annotated version of the new testament? Preferably one that assumes the reader has no previous christian knowledge, while simultaneously not dumbing things down.
I liked Aryeh Kaplan's The Living Torah when I read the torah. Before I read the new testament, I will finish the tanakh, so I still have some time to decide on a version of the new testament to purchase.
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>>8526058
Goethe's Faust
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>>8526058
>annotated

stop being a pleb, the entire bible both old and new testatment is shorter than Hobbit+LOTR+TT+ROTL+Silmarillion by a significant margin. Shit you could probably throw the Quran in and still not hit Tolkien's wordcount.

If you haven't read the bible you are simply put a pleb because the bible, the Iliad and the odyssey are the fundamental /canoncore/.
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>>8526181
Do you know what annotated means?

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After reading 1984, Animal Farm and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, I want to get into reading more books.

Is there anything you guys would recommend me as someone new to literature or just serious MUST READS?

I'm planning on buying hard copies.
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>>8525828
I'm in the same boat, I just started Moby Dick and I quite like it. I'd recommend it
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check out the /lit/ starter kit

Also:
Paul Auster - New York Trilogy
John Steinbeck - East of Eden
Mark Twain - Huck Finn
Don Delillo - White Noise
Richard Matheson - I am Legend

All great and accessible reads
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>>8525828
Considering your current repository of literature, I have a few suggestions you might enjoy.

>Brave New World, Huxley
>Atlas Shrugged; Fountainhead, Rand
>Fahrenheit 451, Bradbury
>2666, Bolaño
>Ubik, Dick
>Catch-22, Heller
>The Road; Blood Meridian, McCarthy
> The Silmarillion Tolkin
>Foundation, Asimov
>A Clockwork Orange, Burges

If you're just looking for some fun, light reading, I'd recommend Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. It isn't the most complex book, obviously, but it's still quite enjoyable.

I'd also recommend you read Lolita, The Brothers Karamazov, and Don Quixote; they're /lit/ standards, and stuff that everyone should read. Don't bother with Ulysses or Infinite Jest until you're more well read.

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What are some of the best poetry novels?
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>>8525809
Browning's THe Ring and the Book
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>>8525809
pale fire
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Aurora Leigh

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How many 'No's can you get from publishing agent before you realize your writing is too patrician for the modern audience and your sole existence upsets the intellectualy mediocre status quo of human literary aesthetics?

tl;dr: didn't write an erotica. How many No's do I get before just giving up my novel?
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bump
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I have no faith in your work if you're a flaming peep and feels poster.

You're at minus 1.
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>>8525804
Write some high-school teen drama shit

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>read books on my Kindle
>Buy physical copies when I finish them and display those on my bookshelves
Who else is part of the master race
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>>8525764
I do that for some. Only the ones I actually liked, though.
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>>8525764
>display
To whom?
I like physical copies because theyre more reliable, especially outdoors. The books on my bookshelf are ripped, tattered, the spines are weak, and stained with tobacco, food, and blood.
Hell i like em that way. Theres no reason anybody would ever enter my house anyway, so why care what they look like?
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i actually want to start doing this

right now i usually buy a hardcover, realize it's too unwieldy to read in bed, buy a softcover, read it, display the hardcover, then give the softcover away

all of which feels autistic af

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