I was talking to my christian mom about Kierkegaard Fear and Trembling.
She said that if Abraham truly did that, then it would mean that he thought God was evil. She said it would be heresy.
Is she right?
If Abraham truly did what?
>>8645919
Then for an
instant he turned away from him, and when Isaac again saw Abraham's face it was
changed, his glance was wild, his form was horror. He seized Isaac by the throat, threw
him to the ground, and said, "Stupid boy, dost thou then suppose that I am thy father?
I am an idolater. Dost thou suppose that this is God's bidding? No, it is my desire."
Then Isaac trembled and cried out in his terror, "O God in heaven, have compassion
upon me. God of Abraham, have compassion upon me. If I have no father upon earth,
be Thou my father!" But Abraham in a low voice said to himself, "O Lord in heaven, I
thank Thee. After all it is better for him to believe that I am a monster, rather than that
he should lose faith in Thee."
>>8645889
The biblical God is evil, though. He's the demiurge.
/lit/ please explain something to me. What did Dorian Gray actually do wrong? He killed Basil in self defense, and it wasn't his fault that Sibyl couldn't handle rejection. Is the story about an innocent man destroyed by the moralists of the era or am I missing the point?
>>8645730
What did Dorian Gray do right?
He was a hedonist who was the same dead or alive. He wasn't worth an inch of what Basil or Sibyl was worth, and neither of them were exemplary people.
I honestly can't tell if this is bait, if it's not you are such a profoundly broken person that you can't understand that people have to be something before they can act innocently. That they effect others.
>>8645730
He desired beauty but his pleasures waned to the point of self-destruction. Wilde (along with Huyman and Bataille) is probably the most morally ambiguous author you will find though, that's the point his preface is trying to make.
>>8645730
He did feel bad for Sybil before seeing his portrait. The point is that once you're sure of impunity there's no limit to human degratation
When did you lads realize the Christian God is the plebbed-down version of Plato's form of the Good? It struck me as immediately evident and, in my humble opinion, is the finest of philosophical realizations.
>>8645729
Anyone who has read Plato knows this, you retard
WHOA
Plato was really smart, huh
>>8645729
The Christian God is a set of different lesser aspects of the pantheistic God. The Bible itself basically comes out and says so, but anyone who has studied and made use of the esoteric knows this very well. Io Pan!
Should I read the Dark Tower by Stephen King? I usually just read classics and world literature, and never read Stephen King before.
As a child I saw the film version of "It" and I still like The Shining, which might be more due to Kubrick than to King. I also read Lord of the Rings when I was younger, and kind of liked it, but I do not really appreciate it any more.
>>8645703
The first three/four books are enjoyable in their own way, and then it all just falls apart after that, but you're committed at that point so you have to keep going.
No.
>>8645708
Have you read it, or parts of it? I mean a friend of mine strongly suggested it, and I started to read a few pages of the German translation. And now, I do not know how I can talk myself out if that.
Another question about the last phrase: is ti correct to say "talk myself out if that", I just checked with Pulp Fiction and Jules Winnfield says: "and your ass ain't talking your way out of this shit." So should I better say: "I do not know how I can talk my way out of that."?
hi /lit/
ive never been here before but i saw a banner for u guys, so i figured id come here and ask
im not much of a literature guy myself desu, but i picked this one up and now i read it on my commute to/from work
im enjoying it quite a bit so far. not that i care about any of your opinions (desu), but im just curious what the general consensus on this board is regarding infinite jest???
>>8645692
It's shit. A meme book like gravity's rainbow
Loved it. Will definitely re-read it again.
Its my second favourite book behind TBK.
>>8645696
t.Plebby McPlebFace.
>>8645692
" Some early reviews, such as Michiko Kakutani's in The New York Times, were mixed, recognizing the inventiveness of the writing but criticizing the length and plot. She called the novel "a vast, encyclopedic compendium of whatever seems to have crossed Wallace's mind."[27]"
I like this critic.
"Dolor est tempus,
Gloria est aeterna."
Is this correct?
SOV typicially in latin.
est
>Dolor est temporalis,
>Gloria est aeterna
Pain is temporary,
Glory is eternal.
>Dolor est brevis,
>Gloria est aeterna
Pain is brief,
Glory is eternal.
>Miser est tempus,
>Gloriosa est aeternitas
Miserable is time,
Glorious is eternity.
A bunch autist on /mlp/ wrote this one sentence at a time, then published it.
>people actually bought this piece of crap
My question is if they can do it why can't you?
Cover
reads like Pound desu
So what do you guys think about Hermann Hesse? I don't know much about literature but he's my favorite so I wonder what's your opinion about him.
>>8645512
Fuckers in school telling me, always in the barber shop Hermann Hesse ain’t bout this, Hermann Hesse ain’t bout that My boy an indivualist excelling in prose and them He, he they say that nigga don’t be putting in no work SHUT THE FUCK UP! Y'all niggas ain’t know shit All ya motherfuckers talk about Hermann Hesse ain’t no hitta Hermann Hesse ain’t this Hermann Hesse a fake SHUT THE FUCK UP Y'all don’t live with that nigga Y'all know that nigga got caught with a ratchet Shootin' at the police and shit Nigga been on probation since fuckin, I don’t know when! Motherfuckers stop fuckin' playin' him like that Them niggas savages out there If I catch another motherfucker talking sweet about Hermann Hesse I’m fucking beating they ass! I’m not fucking playing no more You know those niggas role with Thomas Mann and them
>>8645719
I swear to god yo, that shit hurts me the motherfuckin' most. No Hesse ain't about that he oughtn't a be writin' about that.
Shut the fuck up, I know when a real nigga write cause I feel that shit and I feel Hesse.
That's It. The fuck you mean, that's my fuckin' nigga.
I think a lot of his stories are samey and his philosophy is kind of lazily constructed
First book I actually enjoyed and finished.
What should I read next?
pls no
>pretentious infinite jest bullshit
>translated craptfw Lomax kisses Edith on the lips
If you think Infinite Jest is pretentious, you're gonna have a hard time reading nearly everything.
>No translations.
Say goodbye to reading the undisputed GOAT of literature (Dostoevsky).
Try some Steinbeck next. I started reading Of Mice and Men today and so far its a really comfy book with a nice story.
>>8645418
Read his two other novels, Butcher's Crossing then Augustus. All three are some of the finest American novels.
>>8645418
>doesn't read
Then how do you know IJ is "pretentious"?
>taking /lit/'s word for it (or anything) really
lmao you are truly lost
What's your cruel and egocentric excuse for still approving procreation?
>>8645414
I believe in different things than you do.
>>8645414
I'm cruel and egocentric
>>8645414
>Existence is suffering meme
With that fucking attitude of course it is faggot.
> Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die?
How can this speech be interpreted as anything but a plea for racial equality?
Was Shakespeare pozzed?
>>8645403
/pol/tards haven't read Shakespeare, what else is new?
>>8645403
In other news the sky is blue.
Didn't you go to school?
This Shakespeare-written speech on refugees is great, too:
>Say now the king
>Should so much come too short of your great trespass
>As but to banish you, whether would you go?
>What country, by the nature of your error,
>Should give you harbour? go you to France or Flanders,
>To any German province, to Spain or Portugal,
>Nay, any where that not adheres to England,
>Why, you must needs be strangers: would you be pleased
>To find a nation of such barbarous temper,
>That, breaking out in hideous violence,
>Would not afford you an abode on earth,
>Whet their detested knives against your throats,
>Spurn you like dogs, and like as if that God
>Owed not nor made not you, nor that the claimants
>Were not all appropriate to your comforts,
>But chartered unto them, what would you think
>To be thus used? this is the strangers case;
>And this your mountainish inhumanity.
Who is the best author to name your pets and children after?
>>8645270
Adolf Hitler
>>8645270
John Green
My cat is called Yossarian.
Is this worth reading?
I hate these threads.
If the book interests you, try it. If you don't like it, you can stop.
>>8645151
I hate you
>>8645142
It's okay. Guts is the best bit.
Best book ever written?
>>8645092
Almost, mate.
>>8645092
Umm try again sweetie... :)
>>8645384
This book isn't family friendly so it immediately falls out.
>protagonist doesn't get the girl
>reading heterofiction
>male protagonist