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>>8664695
m y d i a r y t b h

>>8664695
ur diary loser lmao

There's a bunch, and yet, it never seems to be enough

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The best cortazar is a mediocre borges

>>8664450
His short stories are the shit

>>8664450
I'm sure I read something by him. But literary the only thing I can remember is that he had a cat named "Theodor W. Adorno". Which is funny by itself, but at least for me it makes him forgettable as a writer.

>>8664308
This is like the handwriting sample that would be presented to the jury in a 1920's rural Kansas murder case, as evidence that the accused is a violent simpleton with manic tendencies

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r8 & h8 m8s

>>8664315
I am not violent, I am just goofy.
>>8664325
Stunning. My old history teacher writes like that.

>>8664001
The Shining, Misery, and IT are all pretty acceptable. Pet Semetary is low quality prose he shat out but is top tier scary. The first Gunslionger isn't scary but as an experimental novel done on loads of drugs it is probably his finest.

Some people cream over Cujo, Carrie, and The Shining but they arent very good IMO

Skeleton Crew is a pretty great selection of short stories. The Jaunt alone is fucking excellent.

Everything's Eventual has some of King's best short stories imo. 1408 scared the shit out of me

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Charles Tansley from To the Lighthouse

Basil Hallward from Dorian Gray.

I do art and I get cucked a lot. One day, I will be cucked to death.

That one weird ginger autistic kid from Cannery Row that helps Doc clumsily and nobody likes.

First off, I'm assuming you're not reading to be "well read" i.e. you don't care about how culturally refined (or anything similar) you appear to yourself, friends, prospective lovers, lovers, family or whoever. If you are reading for this purpose, then it's a no-brainer that you have to start with the Greeks.

So then, why do you want to get into philosophy? The only reason could be the enjoyment you get from engaging in a quest to discover truth (defined primitively, although perhaps best explained as a certain sensation or certainty you feel with regard to a statement, such that the statement seems undeniable or "true")

Why not Plato? Well, because you're not going to find truth in Plato and (although you're more likely to find it here) not in Aristotle either. Say you start with the Republic, you're, most likely, going to get to the point where he tries to correspond a just person to a just city and go "well, that doesn't seem right" then and there, if not later, when he starts laying down the foundations of this city.

It is important to note now, that I am not saying what Plato said is "untrue" in the common meaning of the word, I have defined "truth" here as the sensation of truth itself. Using more common language, I am not commenting on whether what Plato said was true or not, what I am saying is that it most likely won't feel true for you, atleast if that's what you start with, in other words, you're not going to find his "logic" or, more accurately, his manner of reasoning, agreeable.

Using quasi-philosophcial terms, you'll find his reasoning very "spooky".

Where to start with then? Desecartes, you're going to find him a lot more agreeable, unlike the Republic of which the response to most readers is "Well, I obviously didn't agree wtih any of the bullshit he said but it was interesting", when you read the Meditations (just the first two chapters) Desecartes will most likely actually touch truth for you, that is, he will raise questions that honestly make you uncomfortable, that's answer you actually do not know and his reasoning is something you will find a lot more agreeable, until you don't (Be glad that no philosopher will be 100% agreeable, else there ends your quest for truth and there ends the enjoyment you receive from it).

What say /lit/?

P.S. Post Desecartes, I don't think my recommendations matter, I just believe that exposing one to Plato to start of with does him/her an injustice, by giving them the wrong conception of how analytically rigorous and logically robust modern philosophy is. Think about it, let's say the Republic was never published, let's say someone writes a book exactly like it today, how badly would he be laughed at in academic circles, especially by all the analytic philosophers?

P.P.S. I'm not saying one should never read Plato and Aristotle, their thoughts would actually be interesting from the point of view of the history of philosophy, but this is a subject I feel can only interest one who has first done philosophy itself.

To quote a a rather famous philosopher's preface to one of his texts:

>For some learned people, philosophy is just the history of philosophy (ancient and modern); these preliminaries aren’t written for them. They must wait their turn. When those who work to draw ·truth· from the well of reason itself have done their work, then the historians can give the world the news about their results. ·But they won’t regard it as news, because· nothing can be said now that the historians won’t think has been said already! And it is safe to predict that they’ll think the same about anything said in the future; human understanding has busied itself for centuries with countless topics in many ways, so it is to be expected that every new idea will resemble something that has been said in the past.

It's a meme. You are supposed to get this info through cultural osmosis and if you have not it's too late to start now.

>>8663669
be more grateful you ungrateful ingrate

>>8663669
Who cares

>>8663674
Why? A commercial fantasy writer delivers a service to his readers. He's delivering that service poorly.

>BA Social science
>MA pol theory or anthropology, not sure yet

>Blood eridian
>No country for old men
>Infinite jest

>Mbbs
>I don't know. Maybe Phd in pathology.

>C&P
>Lolita
>The vedas

that is an excellent painting.

the cozy is too much

>>8663489
bibles are usually cheap

>>8663495
this was more expensive than most books i buy though!

>>8663489
Look for the Everyman's Library 2 volume old and new testament. The paper is what you'd expect from their hardcovers however the font is a bit smaller.
Look for single column/paragraph bible.
Penguin Classic and Oxford also have King James. Most bibles are printed printed cheaply. Read reviews first before buying.

Woolf
Agatha Christie

>>8663408
Austen
Bronte
Stein
Arendt
Woolf
Eliot

Do you people never tire of frog-triggering threads?

>>8663408
I don't read female authors on principal because I'm that annoying redpilled guy that jumps in with my poorly thought out opinion at the start of every thread. I hear Jane Austen is pretty good though. Ayn Rand is important, if not good, because she helps me understand my retarded contradictory economic views.
Also something about the white race. You should misread Schopenhauer instead of reading women though, retard.

>>8663364
go on kindle, there are free books there to keep you busy for months (i've read paradise lost for free on it)

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>>8663364
I just finished this.

Tip top

>>8663966
Yeah but I mean specific ones.

I forgot this was a thing. I might try it this year, but ignore the word limit.

>>8663235
I came fifth last year. Plagiarize someone more talented than you desu

>>8663272
wait fifth? There's placements?

stop with this "rec me lit that seems like my favorite videogame" bullshit god FUCKINg damn

Read some Bernhard. Maybe Extinction. Maybe correction.

>>8663038
>when OP breaks a man's will with one question

>Christopher Doyle is going to shoot my film

I'm literally fucking triggered. Just look at his video in paris and you can tell he'll be a shit filmmaker, and somehow through daddys money this is allowed to happen.

literally never seen a more insufferable person ever before. hard to comprehend just how much he thinks of himself simply because he likes Bataille. fucking hilarious to watch though

>>8662948
How's it going Cliff?

>>8662863
>who is your favorite philosopher?
>who is your favorite poet?
>who is your favorite novelist
The person i see while standing in front of the mirror desu

>>8662863
Noam Chomsky

Kierkegaard
Hopkins
Gaddis