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Psychoanalysis thread. Last one was quite interesting, figured it was worth a second round. Talk about violence, desire, mimesis, stuff you've read, stuff you haven't read, how you would make your analyst's head explode, etc.

OP is basically a Girardfag. There was a good thread about de Maistre and the concept of sacrifice that 404'd before I could shit it up with RG quotes but if anons want to continue that then this could also be good.
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>>8727128
I think a decent amount of psychological difficulty may relate to the state of the environment more so inherently than the individual per say. I think if the ways of the world were better, people that are currently not 'ok' in ways, would be better. But then again, certainly, life itself has inherent challenges and difficulties. The desire for love, mate, companionship, and the uncertainty surrounding those decisions, as well as the potential for people to change over time, I presume is the source of some reasons why people see folks like you. As well as difficulty with work (lack of fulfillment, enjoyment, self and other respect).
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>>8727272
I could not agree more. Well said, anon.

I would very much like to continue a career in analysis, but I do recognize it as being a more compromised profession now than I used to. As you say, if the ways of the world were better, people might not feel the need to speak to an analyst. So there is always going to be, in some sense, some inner sense of collusion between the analytical process and the world beyond, capitalism and the rest.

It's one of the reasons why reading broadly - for example pic related - is so important. Analysis is undeniably something of an edifice, for better or for worse, but like many things it's the fiercest *and most gifted* critics who help to move the chains forward.

Speaking for myself, for example, Girard has criticisms of Freud which I would argue are absolutely necessary to take into account: Freud's overemphasis of prohibitive relations between father and son occlude the equally important relationship between enemy rivals/twins, for instance. Julia Kristeva has made similar arguments, IIRC.

Analysts are as deeply troubled as anyone else, which is what leads to that amazing phenomenon (or comedy, if you feel that way) of analysts having analysts. Another reason to not take everything Freud says *too* literally.
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>>8727272
Full disclosure: I'm not a professional, just a guy with a marked intellectual bias and *maybe* a talent for this. By 'continue' all I can really mean is study and associate, and by 'career' even less than that. But maybe someday tho. Warrants mentioning. At the end of the day I'm just another anon.

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>inb4 Gatsby
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The Camus covers are pretty great.
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I like it.

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Who are some great writers you have never seen mentioned on /lit/?
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>>8723484
Leonid Andreyev and Nescio, never see them mentioned
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Gogol, Tišma
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>>8723484
Büchner.
I gave up on my diary when I read Lenz desu.

Why writing first draft on typewriter is so much funnier?
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>>8736767
cuz it goes clickety clackety voom zoom
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>>8736767
Because you can't backspace if you write autism
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I'd rather write on my Atari ST, thanks.

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>the great gatsby
>he wasn't that great
>infinte jest
>is neither infinite nor funny
>the divine comedy
>isn't funny
What is it with authors and misleading titles?
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Thread is cancer. No jimmies were rustled, no keks were had. I pity you, if this is the height of your lulzcraft.
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>>8736580
wow
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>>8736717
why the fuck would you bump this thread for that, you sniveling retard?

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Was Frankenstein's monster a robot all along?

"Soon I found a hut, which seemed to be empty, but when I entered I saw a
pretty young woman asleep on the floor. I hated her because she was pretty. So I put the gold chain into
one of her pockets, and then, before she could wake up, I ran away. I knew the police would think that
she had killed the little boy." -The monster ch 9
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>>8736461
It would explain how he could intuit what the police would do with zero life experience.

Shelley was the biggest fucking hack.
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>>8736461
He wasn't a machine that was programmed to perform a certain task, so no.

Or did you mean something else?
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>>8736467
lol no, I meant robot from /r9k/ haha

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I'm an aspiring writer.
I'm 18, about to finish high school as soon as exams are over.
I already do some pathetic writing on a site where I make little articles about politics. My heart's not entirely in everything I write though and that pains me. I rack my mind rather than having each and every word tumble out onto a page. It's not natural, y'know?
Where do I get some inspiration? What life experiences do I need to kick-start my life?
Who do I read to find my pathway? (Not as imitation, but as inspiration)
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You're not an aspiring writer you're someone who wants to think of themselves as a writer but doesn't actually write.
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One name. John Donne.
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It's a joke about Greek philosophers. Plato said that the definition of a human was a "featherless biped", so Diogenes plucked a chicken and brought it to Plato's school shouting "Behold! I've brought you a man!".

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What's the etiquette of using pseudonyms?

People put so much emphasis on a poet's biography that they practically want the details on his kindergarten experiences. Are pseudonyms considered deceptive nowadays?

For those of you who do use a pseudonym, what led you to it?
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>>8736099
I use one when I'm trying to get published so people won't know I'm a straight white christian male.
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What do you mean etiquette? If you do anything interesting people will probably find out who you are anyway.

I just prefer to be in the background, I don't like attaching my real name or face to things. I like to be a face in the crowd, I like that I can come and go without people realising. Being the centre of attention is nightmarish to me. A significant portion of my socialising and general interaction is done anonymously or from behind an online handle, why would I do it any differently in a professional situation?
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>>8736129
>What do you mean etiquette?
What's considered acceptable and in good taste.

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what books are recommended that are similar to brave new world in that controlled society state and complete reimagination of social norms sorta like in fahrenheit 451
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>>8736033
1984 ;)
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>>8736036
(; thx bb
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>>8736033
A People's History of America

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I unironically enjoyed Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, and Proverbs. Where to go from here?
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Start and end with the Futurists.
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>>8735879
http://www.sacred-texts.com/
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Go into the Prophets, OP. Follow the call of Yahweh as far as it leads you. Be caught up in the siren song of the LORD.

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Is there any literary fiction like The Lord of the Rings in its faith in Providence?

Providence is probably the key theme of the book. All the really wise characters--Elrond, Gandalf, Aragorn, Faramir--maintain a faith that something beyond them is engineering events for a good result, and their faith is ultimately rewarded.

Are there any non-sci-fi/fantasy books like that in the modern age? Something where the idea of an active force in the universe, engineering things for good, is present?
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Um, Brothers Karamazov. How do you not know this?
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>>8735852
I don't think you can call it faith when they're related to, and in fact just an extension of, said engineer.
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The book of the new sun is basically all about that. Teleology

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Has anybody on /lit/ read any of Pynchon Sr?
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>>8735836
>no furry/reddit tab
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literally who
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>how to take a screenshot

senpai...

>mlp deviant art

senpai................

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What's the smartest book you've ever read?
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Rabinow and Stavrianakis' "Designs on the Contemporary: Anthropological Tests" is probably the hardest book I've ever worked through if that's what you mean
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>>8735808
The complete works of Aristotle
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>>8735808
Can books be smart? I feel like "being smart" implies a certain dynamism that you can't really replicate with something as linear as a book.

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>>8735806
Wrong board
>>>/mlp/
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>>8735810
Anon, I think you are mistaken. THAT, or you're trying to hurt my feelings.
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DFW would've loved Gondola.

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How is Sisyphus happy? He still has to push that fucking boulder up that hill everyday
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>>8735783
I M A G I N A T I O N
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>>8735783
Who said Sisyphus was happy?
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you have to assume that he is, else he would just end himself

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