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Hey guys. Do any of you know of any books about black markets, smuggling, or just underworld in general? Desert towns are a plus.

Thanks.
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Tun-huang
by Yasushi Inoue
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>>8752665
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>>8752757
Awesome. Thank you.

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So I wrote this "spoken word" piece. Obviously haven't spoken it yet.

But here, I just needed to share it. See if you can guess what happened. I hope the emotions come through:
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Your animosity towards me

It comes earned and deserved.

There's a reason for everything on this earth, and the reason you hate me is the same reason you hate yourself and your worth

You tried so hard to deal with our sin as if you didn't fuck over your best friend.

You tried to pretend nothing happened, that there wasn't a semblance of emotion that went into the action....

I too, messed up,
I too am guilty

We are both filthy with lies and deceit, but only your desire makes ends meet

and what about mine?

What we did was wrong,
What we did was our swan song, our final retreat into bliss, our final kiss, before we took all the missteps into darkness

You swore my emotions and heart, you'd never twist

just as I swore to him

but I guess with this arrow I missed
and narrowly it was flicked with my wrist

and fallen, just as he am I

so when I think about your hate towards me, I already know why

There's a reason for everything on this earth, and because you knew that I had such worth

you bit the apple, took the bait and swallowed it. Hook and all, you fell

and I did not grace your fall

I followed straight after, with laughter and an amalgamation of patience,
you waited

Now we're stuck in this dark plane of shade, and while i always knew I was jaded, I didn't know that the choice is make would be the blade

stuck in my back by your hand, all because, yes, I cheated on my man and your best friend

But congratulations,
you get to leave guilt free, because your desires and whims don't involve me

and boys will be boys,
just as dogs will be dogs

So wolf and bark and play with your paws while I bawl and bawl my eyes out

feeling a gut wrenching pain, your disdain doesn't come easy, believe me

I regret it all too
but if there's one thing I don't regret
it's meeting you

because through you I found myself and learned that no amount of wealth or self-hatred could bring me to my knees again

a friend you were and even then

You couldn't care to make amends, and just like that

this is the end
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How's high school treating you? Pretty bad huh?
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>>8752659
tfw junior in University with a double major in Computer Science and German.

Thanks though. I guess it's shit, eh? Well I was crying the whole time and it's spoken word.

Thanks for reading though.
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>>8752659
I like how you equate shit writing with being in high school. I wrote some of my best stuff in high school and it won me a lot of awards.

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where do the lads download their audiobooks?
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I don't.
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librivox, but I generally don't
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Myanonamouse

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New to /lit/. I have too many books and not enough time to read them all.

I want to increase my reading and comprehension speed. Any good courses, tips or tricks?
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Why even read if the reading process isn't joyful to you?
Just scan the sparknotes ot something
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>>8752557
I enjoy reading but as I've gotten older my reading speed is slowing down. It has nothing to do with coursework. This is pleasure reading for the most part.
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>>8752546

Speed reading is literally just skimming for important material. It's only helpful if you're reading for straight up information.

Where do people get this idea that it's just plain reading faster? A lot of speed reading guides I've seen tell you to entirely skip "unimportant" passages. If you do this with with literature, you're doing yourself a huge disfavor by not slowing down. It's not just about "oh you have to savor the language for it's beauty" or whatever (although you certainly should do that), it's about thinking about what you're reading. Reading deeply is useless without contemplation and you need time for that.

Yes Harold Bloom can read a thousand page novel in an hour, but he's a freak who's read constantly nearly all his life. Regardless, he still reads slowly with his favorite authors and encourages others to go at their own pace. It's not a race.

Really makes you think what he meant by this huh?

I agree with Taleb that the social sciences are not robust, but he really went too far this time. Surely some cognitive biases will be debunked or turn out to be the same, but I doubt that the whole ting is bullshit.
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>>8752545
welcome, reddit friend
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>>8752583
>welcome, reddit friend
Damn that took you guys long to figure out I came from reddit.
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>>8752545
I'm not certain you're interpreting him correctly there.

>>8752592
>not using the reddit checker extension

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Why are Anglos so bad at handling superior Germanic banter?
Mainstream Analytic philosophy still avoids Hegel and Heidegger like the plague.
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>>8752465
Hegel is p much fundamentally incompatible with analytic philosophy (tho there is stuff like analytic marxism). There are some interesting analytic interpretations of Heidegger, but one of the top US guys killed himself a few years back I think.
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>>8752465

the language that the schools of thought use differ because of the problems that they are trying to solve. dialectic reasoning is something that most analytic thinkers would not avail themselves to.

its also hard to argue against. academic analytic philosophy, which really does get a good share of the publishing, needs anonymous judges to make sure that journal articles are not simply talking past each other in different systems. they generally argue against the most minute of differences because of the compartmentalization of the fields. epistemologists will write 30+ pages arguing for slight differences in theories of justification, for example.

its both symptomatic and a result of the publishing culture, in one way. but also, its an inherent difference in the style of analysis.
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thats like asking why scientists avoid using music theory

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Just finished reading The Stranger by Albert Camus, and now I'm pretty contemplative about life.

Well, I know that the book is a big analogy for his absurdist philosohpy. Like the way the protagonist is indifferent about the world around him and everybody wants to find some meaning for the random things that happened.

But, well, what are you guys thought about it?

>And what should I read now to enter this world of existentialism?
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>>8752417
The myth of Sisyphus is regarded as a companion piece to the stranger
Sartre is another major player there, you could try Nausea or Being and Nothingness, as his best know stuff
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>Aujourd'hui, maman est morte.
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>>8752417
In addition to Sartre's books Crime and Punishment and East of Eden dealt with existentialism within a fictional story. Kafka is another good one and in one of the essays that is usually packaged with Myth of Sisyphus (maybe it was Myth of Sisyphus) Camus mentions Kafka's works as a great example of absurdism, particularly The Castle. Camus also mentions some characters from Dostoevsky's Demons (or Devils) as absurdist.

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Anyone read it? What are your thoughts?
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This post leaves me puzzled. It's not a rage-inducing bait, where the OP is so bad you want to punch the anon who wrote it in the face. It's not a particularly well-timed bait, since the amount of HP threads right now is no higher than usual. It isn't a clever bait, something really witty and barely recognizable. It's very short and crude, with a (?) Dutch cover hidden by a spoiler tag and a name Harry typed in...
What did he mean by this?
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>>8752395
maybe he isn't a smug elitist pseud like you
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>>8752395

basically I was asking what your thoughts on the book are... Like I wrote above. Is that weird?

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Why did he hate Christians, /lit/?
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Cos Stoics are worldless people and Christians are other-worldly.
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Jews.
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This isn't the answer to your questions since I've never read the scholarship on Marcus Aurelius, but JSM does discuss this in one of the examples which illustrate his argument that to censure a dissenting opinion in the interest of the public good is to commit the often-grave error of assuming that the opinion is wrong.
He basically says it was unfortunate because, unbeknownst to Aurelius, he and Christianity had many affinities.

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Let's play a game to find recommendations.
Post three of your favourite books, other people reply with recommendations.
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I forgot to start

Hamlet
Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
V
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>>8752295
War and Peace
Game of Thrones
Starship Troopers
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>>8752299

Mason & Dixon

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Is there a good strategy for someone who self-publishes on Amazon to attract attention among that vast ocean of e-books?

I was thinking of first creating a Facebook page and sharing excerpts of the work, trying to form a small fan-base (even paying some amount of money for the Facebook-ads service). After getting, let say, ten thousands likes, the book could finally be published on Amazon and the Facebook-post about the publication advertised for all the people who liked the page (as you can advertise especially for the people who have already liked the page, concentrating your money on people who already enjoy your work).

This is one of my ideas, but I was wondering if there are more effective ways of self-marketing your work on Amazon.

I am currently quite dissatisfied with editorial-houses. I found out that many of them are just publishing books written by their own editors, or sons of editors, or members of the editors families. They also have a big crush on journalists and columnists, even small ones. You end up discovering that many of the “new talents” who are published and get reviewed on the press are simply members of extremely rich families whose daddies and mommies have a lot of connections. They will not be remembered in history, but they sure have everything on their favor (except maybe talent and real dedication).

So I was wondering what one can do for himself when it comes to marketing a self-published work.

pic not related (But I love his work: this one was not only lucky when it comes down to his birth and family wealth, but he was also extremely dedicated and naturally gifted)
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If it's any good it will attract attention

If you're doing it for the attention it is never going to be good
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>>8752252
>If you're doing it for the attention it is never going to be good

I have been writing for more than 14 years now. I do it because it is the only thing that really makes me feel I am doing something worthy with my life. When I lay down in bed at night and start to think about who I am it is a refreshing thought to remember that I am trying to create some form of artificial-beauty to make the world a little better.

I don’t want attention simply for the sake of attention. What I want are readers, and especially their opinions. I want to know what people think of my work. Right now I feel that I am sculpting marble statues on a desert island and that no eye will ever contemplate them: is as if they still exist only inside my brain, and not on the physical world.

>>8752252
>If it's any good it will attract attention

I wish I were so optimistic about the rewards of truly significant art.
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>>8752314
If it's amazing, you'll probably get noticed eventually.

However, if your writing is still clumsy and you want advice, try contacting publishers. If they see potential, they might help you, if not you'll probably still get advice. Other than that, you'd be surprised how college teachers or writers can be helpful. Try getting in touch with one or two.

Also, if you want, you can share a few paragraphs of your writing; I have a good sense when it comes to judge the potential or lack thereof in young writers.

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Superior /lit/ discord where the admin doesn't randomly sperg and delete the channel/ban people/lock permissions 24/7.

Also we actually read.

https://discord.gg/kWHpZXY
https://discord.gg/kWHpZXY
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joined
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>>8752224
what's discord?
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the admin banned me for trying to bring the topic back to literature. fuck that

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"You shouldn't read Shakespeare", they say.

"You need to see it performed, not read", they said.

How true is this? Is Shakespeare an unenjoyable experience if read from a book? If so, what's the point in purchasing them as classics?
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>>8751970
Is that the guy who played Richard on Lost?

Why wouldn't you just read him AND see the play afterward?
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Watching it rather than reading it is better, but you can enjoy reading Shakespeare, obviously.
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>>8751970
Depends on your imagination I suppose. I'm not a native English speaker myself, and found that having it acted - even purely dramatization/voice acting - helps quite a lot. I read it at the same time as I listen to it.

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>bought book for 20 bucks
>lost it the same day
>mfw
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>got my bitch pregnant
>she lost it the same day
>mfw
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>>8751860
How does one loose a book?

It seems to me that when books aren't at home, they ought to be in either your hand or your bag.

How did you make such a grievous error?
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>>8751902
have you never before lost something? it just happens

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I wish to learn about bureaucracy and structure of governments, /lit/. Anyone have any good books to recommend?

I intend to start studying law, but I also want to understand more about my own government, not just in concept but in practice. Legislation, laws, all that sort of thing.

In addition, I also want to understand better how misc. iterations of socialist/communist/stalinist/maoist regimes work- or don't, as the case may be. At least, on paper.

However, getting information on any of these things is like trying to wipe garbage juice off of candy. I'm very skeptical of many information sources and don't want to waste my time studying bullshit like libertarians trying to make a case to dismantle the FED.

Any politically and civic minded people have any book recommendations? PREFERABLY books that are dry and nonpartisan in nature, more than spun? If possible. I am so exhausted dealing with a gaggle of arguing bitches when what I want is just the truth.
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>>8751683
noam chomsky understanding power
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>>8751687
haha no.
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>>8751683
Process of Government - Arthur F. Bentley

Keep in mind it's over 100 years old but it is relevant. It details how constituents and lobbyists influence how the government runs.

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