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Hey lit, I hope you can help me out.

I want to get a basic understanding of some political and economical topics. I know this is very vague and these are all very different things but, for example, I'm looking for good books on:

- communism
- nazism
- marxism
...

I basically want to read some good 'background' books to help me get a broad knowledge about the political compass (left vs right and libertarian vs authoritarian).

I'm not looking for history books with too much facts and numbers. However books with history and maybe examples/anecdotes to keep it interesting and fairly smooth to read (as far as that's possible) are more welcome.
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>>8753413
An Introduction to Marxism
Communism: An Introduction
Nazism: A Beginner's Guide
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>>8753423

Thanks anon, looks like some good reads. Easy and fastforward.
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>>8753413
Ego and his Own

Where to start with this guy? Clash of Civilisations or somewhere else?
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>>8753366
Clash of Civilizations was decently argued, I think. The European New Right churning out so many derivative works is a bit much though. Political Order in Changing Societies is much more dense, and I haven't gotten through much of it, but it is a very relevant topic and its good to get his perspective.
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Huntington is so outdated and his ideas are rejected by most academics who actually serious about studying globalization. https://www.thenation.com/article/clash-ignorance/
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>>8753938
>trusting 'politically correct' academics

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I know NOTHING about philosophy, should I read this?

No "start with the Greeks" posting here, please. I want to take a general look about philosophy before deciding to invest more time on it or not.
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yes read it
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>>8753359
Just become redpilled instead, then you don't need cucklosophy
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>>8753359

keep in mind this was one philosophers account and he doesnt do justice to some of those outside of his interests (analytic).

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Stephen King is an ugly talentless suckhole

how did he get famous for writing the literary equivalent of dogshit?
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>>8753255
why, if you're not just bitter, did you mention him being an ugly suckhole? How is that relevant?
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>>8753261
well i've got not much personally invested, i was just astounded when i first saw him.
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he looks like a fucking peice of shit and makes me want to gape my prolapsed anal juices into his mouth and rub my propy gapey butthole on him

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>write philosophical reflections in diary
>come back to it a month later
>don't even understand what I was trying to say
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Work on your calligraphy.
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your diary desu
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>>8753154
Collect it and pass it off as the work of a deep mind. You can be the new Heidegger or something.

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What are you planning to read on the holidays?

pic related
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>>8752944
Mony dick
The castle
And maybe Suttree or Blood Meridian
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>>8752959
The holidays are like 2 weeks.
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>>8752966
Living the NEET life, my friend.

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I very much enjoy reading books about prisoners of war or political prisoners. Any recommendations?
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the first circle
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>>8752922
Waiting for the Barbarians
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Invitation to a Beheading -Nabokov
The Fixer - Malamud
The Trail - Kafka


I wasn't a big fan of The Fixer, but I could see someone getting a kick out of it. Worth looking into.

PS. If anyone has any recs for books where characters feel imprisoned by themsleves (trapped) with ontological over/undertones, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

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Is Thompson worth reading? I was told he's one of America's best writers, did I get memed?
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I was a huge fan throughout my teens to my early twenties. My university dissertation was about Gonzo journalism.

His body of journalism is fairly shitty outside of Hell's Angels, Fear And Loathing, and On The Campaign Trail '72. He's at his most potent in those books, but otherwise his articles devolve into rambling bullshit (see: Generation Of Swine). The Rum Diary was also something of a disappointment.
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>>8752913
He wrote some pretty great shit. I think anyone who wants to take psychedelics should really absorb this quote first

>We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled that 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling "consciousness expansion" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy Peace and Understanding for three bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody... or at least some force - is tending the light at the end of the tunnel.
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>>8752946
DUDE DRUGS LMAO

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Are there textbooks on philosophy, and if so, why are they not more popular?

In maths or physics you don't read "Newton", you read a book on Analysis or Classical Mechanics. But on /lit/ everyone says "read [Philsopher]" by which they mean "read the works of [Philosopher]". Now I get that some Philosophers rely heavily on prose to get their points across (which is a topic in itself I think), but why should I read a piece of work that was written for the sensibilities of an audience from two or three centuries ago? Why can't there be a textbook that develops Kant's ideas in modern language? After all, the philosophy should depend on the ideas, not the wording.
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>>8752900
>In maths or physics you don't read "Newton", you read a book on Analysis or Classical Mechanics. But on /lit/ everyone says "read [Philsopher]" by which they mean "read the works of [Philosopher]".
What are you talking about, retard, scientists read other other's papers all the time, they don't make you read Einstein's publications or Principia Mathematica in school because you wouldn't fucking get it
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>>8752909
This is wrong, you generally only read recently published papers.

Older papers (i.e those that do not present the most modern version of the ideas) are only read for historical context (e.g my department recently had a seminar on historic papers in physics) or because profs like to develop their lectures chronologically in undergrad, and then link the old papers for fun.

You would not read Einstein's papers to learn about General Relativity, you just go to the library and get a textbook about it.
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>>8752900
The problem is that there is a division in philosophy between continental and analytic thought. Russell's book, which I suppose might have fulfilled this role at one point, takes a steaming dump on Nietzsche, who is basically Ground Zero for virtually everything that comes after him.

It's one of the things that suck about philosophy, tbqh, because you don't get this sense of everyone being on the same page with things. Most people will agree, more or less, on who matters and who does not matter from Plato until the 19C. But it gets pretty crazy after that, mainly because advances in philosophy are made by re-inventing the wheel, and it gets so completely re-invented in so many ways that people are still divided on what is and is not philosophy itself. So Anglo-Analytics see things one way, and continentals (even though the term is totally meaningless, b/c all it means is 'everyone in France, Germany, Italy, etc.') see them another.

It's a clusterfuck no doubt. And I agree, it should depend on the ideas, not the wording.

Explain why this got anything less than 4.5 on Goodreads.
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>>8752879
Because chuck palahniuk is a pony of few tricks. After any two of his books, you've basically gotten the full experience.
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>>8752884
Agree, agreed. Granted, this was the first book that I read by him.

What I really like is his development with the tiniest details. He'll involve some background information that I didn't even think of.
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The frame story was fucking trash. I almost started skipping it, but it was too short and pointless to even warrant that.

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ITT hard prose recommendations. Declarative sentences, concise and powerful styles, efficient storytelling.
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Hemingway is obligatory.
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>>8752881
>Hemingway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ5CIsWBmik
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>>8752881
*Hemmingway

hey guys can you suggest short stories or poems to me? im looking to paint a picture of a piece of writing but im not too educated on writers
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>>8752827
paint the lovers in the last couple of pages of The Dead. She'd be asleep and red-eyed, he'd be awake staring vacantly, wide-eyed and horrified.
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>>8752827
How would we go about describing a body like that?
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I always wanted to paint something based on Eliot's journey of the magi, but I can't paint.

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It's an addiction isn't it? A sickness of the mind.
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>>8752744

>paying for books

yeah it is it's called being a retard
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>>8752748
>yeah it is it's called being a retard
But Kant says:
1) If everyone is not paying for books
2) We most likely wouldn't have books
3) You should thus pay for books
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>>8752748
Where do you get your books from if you aren't into e-books or borrowing?

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At the undergraduate level, how has the study of literature changed in the past 50 years? Was it less about theory and more about...?
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>>8752742
Instead of reading for merit, you'll read books that were selected out of racism ("Afro American lit") and sexism ("Female writers").
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>>8752749
not a /pol/tard by any means but this is honestly the truth
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>>8752742
Less focus on breadth and more on depth

Unfortunately I believe the only way to gain depth is by focusing on breadth

I go to Columbia and theres a huge emphasis on breadth and IMO its a lot more important because you get a bigger picture of the world and you can chose to focus on stuff in your free time you honestly care about

Do you prefer hardcovers or paperbacks /lit/?
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Its all the same words my man
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Paperbacks because I have tiny child-like hands.
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Hardcovers just plain suck.

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