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>be philosopher
>sit down and spend hours thinking about the most important questions about humanity
>spend years writing down hundreds of pages to explain those thoughts
>can't spend 5 minutes thinking of a name for masterpiece, instead calling it "On [Topic]"

why do they do this?
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ure a fag
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>>9940673
They're intended for academics
Imagine if you wanted to look up an algebra textbook but the fuckhead author thought it needed to be called "daisies in the breeze" instead of "algebra"
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Because if I want to look for a book about ontology, I want it to have fucking ontology in the title instead of "Vagaries of Human Existence"

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>symbolistic animal
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>symbology

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Middle C by William G
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havent read it
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Kinda crazy how that works out.
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>>9940573
Needed an editor.

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I hate it when books, or really any media, falls into the "No one dies" trap. All it ever does is kill any stakes the story had, especially if the situations are supposed to be super dangerous. Even worse are the writers that create and kill off pointless and minor characters to create a false sense of tension. Do you guys know any specific reasons authors do this? Are they too attached to the characters, is it to make it more family friendly, or what?
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This is a board for literature.

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Was there ever a book so bad that you wanted to kill whoever wrote that shit to get the wasted time back?
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Paul Coelho

The thought that the time I've lost reading the shlock that is The Alchemist comes back to haunt me every night
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>>9940584
Why?
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No. But do you want to kill me? I made you waste your time reading this inane reply.

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What's Robert E Howard's best story? For me it's The Valley of the Worm. I do wish he could have found someway to make it a Conan story though.
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>>9940557
Oh come on, it has to be Beyond the Black River. It was literally every single Conan story rolled into one. You could read that ONE story and never have to read another R.E.H. tale again.
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>>9940564
That one's good but I think both Tower of the Elephant and Red Nails are superior to be completely frank.
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>>9940587
Eh, it's hard to say, Tower of the Elephant was good but it didn't really carry the full theme of all of Howard's work, which is "barbarism is superior to normies," and Red Nails had the woman who added pretty much nothing to the plot.

Black River I feel is the one piece you would read if you couldn't read anything else of his work. It's the seminal Conan story.

Granted all are better than shit like The God in the Jar, or, God help us, The People of the Black Circle, which is godawful.

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Which one is better? The Tractatus or the Philosophical Investigations?

protip: The Tractatus is obviously the better one
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>>9940506
lol, no. The untersuchungen is da beh.
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>>9940506
The Investigations have turned out to be more efficacious and influental.
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the tractacus was witt thinking one particular language game (making pictures in your mind) encompasses all the ways in which we use language

which is patently false

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What are the worst and most forgettable stories written by H.P Lovecraft? I thought Beast in The Cave was boring as hell and had a fanfiction-tier ending, and A Reminiscence of Dr. Samuel Johnson was a chaotic clusterfuck to read through. I also thought Dagon was very overrated, considering it's constantly hyped up as one of his better stories and all it ended up being was a few pages about some guy randomly ending up in a place that looks and smells like shit before being driven insane by a creature that he can't describe. For the most forgettable i'd instantly say The Alchemist, given the fact that nobody seems to fucking remember it.
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Rats in the walls was cliche garbage.
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>>9940479
Yeah, Dagon sucks, don't know why it even gets recommended

>>9940481
You take that back right now
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Dagon is good if you know what Dagon is mythologically.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L24GzTaOll0
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Wrong board?
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Oh god I did not think of this autist when I read the news.
Fucking retard.
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>>9940378
There is already a thread on /sci/. I like to make one here to include /lit/ because this particular thing involves philosophy, history and culture. I think such things merge with STEM pretty readily. Plenty of people who know mathematics and logic on /lit/ too.

Last time I made a cross-over thread I got banned though, lol.

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Is he worth reading? Bloom called him a "literary golgotha" and Moore said he is "America's foremost prose stylist" --- high praise, if ever I'd seen any.
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>>9940359
if you like reading hedgehogs, sure. i, for one, am not a fan of such things.

try out omensetter's luck. it's fairly short and will introduce you to Gass' style and themes. i didn't like it, but that's no reason for me not to aid someone else in their literary pursuits.
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>>9940374
>reading hedgehogs
What's that supposed to mean? That he's hard to read?

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Alright guys you convinced me to read the bible. Is the version I currently own, parents bought when I was nine, a good version to read or do I need to go and buy the KJV or some other version that isn't the one i currently have?
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>>9940339
it's the bible, you can get a free kjv i'm sure
you don't want to waste your time reading anything else
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>>9940339
don't bother, man.
what you should really do if you want the religious experience, is to go train to become a catholic priest.
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>>9940339
NAB is fine, but ideally you'd want the revised edition of it.

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Is not choosing a difficult school the key to maximizing the enjoyment of university? It is hard to imagine being able to fulfill my idea of
the romanticized university life while trying to complete an extremely challenging degree/program.

>you couldn't get in anyways
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>>9940198
difficult is not important, but you need to be at a good school so that the characters in your fantasy are worth your time
good can largely be read as prestigious
if you must slack off just do the bare minimum to not get kicked out or choose a less difficult program within that uni, you don't choose a worse school
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I've found that bonding over getting fucked by your program is a great way to make friends

What's Up Fuckers!?

Take a look at this? We don't Fucking need anymore YA books like Fucking Black Witch or The Continent!

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/28/517657413/authors-hire-sensitivity-specialists-so-not-to-offend-readers

>A sensitivity reader reads through a manuscript for issues of representation and for instances of bias on the page. The goal of a sensitivity reader isn’t to edit a manuscript clarity and logic, although that may be an additional service offered. A sensitivity reader reviews a manuscript for internalized bias and negatively charged language. A sensitivity reader is there to help make sure you do not make a mistake, but they are also NOT a guarantee against making a mistake.

Editors are not Fucking good enough! No books should be allowed to even be published if they haven't undergone the appropriate sensitivity readers.
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go back there
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Why do people want to destroy art with politics? They already got movies, videogames and TV shows. What's next? Fucking literature? Music?
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>>9940193
>A sensitivity reader is there to help make sure you do not make a mistake, but they are also NOT a guarantee against making a mistake.
Sounds useless.

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I've read some dialogues here and there but I want to explore philosophy and approach it from a more systematic way. Should I read this before or after reading Plato? I know both are probably ok, but if one is preferred I'd like to know which and why.
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The Copleston histories are meant more for people who have been studying philosophy for a few years. There's a lot of untranslated Greek too.
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There probably won't be a single right answer to this, but I'd read Copleston afterwards. He draws on all of Plato to basically give you the general themes of Plato's physics, metaphysics, ethics, etc., all at once rather than going dialogue by dialogue. So it's helpful to gather your thoughts once you've read those dialogues, but IMO is a bit premature to read on its own/before those dialogues.

Also Copleston is not at all difficult to read; I disagree with >>9939994 except to confirm that there is a fair bit of untranslated Greek in there. Read an intro like the Bloomsbury Companion to Plato before reading Copleston and you'll be sufficiently familiar with the Greek vocab necessary to have no trouble with Copleston.
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>>9940136
I should have clarified that even though I'm no philosophy student I'm not a complete beginner. I've read introductions and works by other philosophers as well, including Kant and Hegel although not a complete work from any of these two.
I just want to start from the bottom and this time be systematic as I already said.
That's why I'm picking Copleston and not a history for dummies.
I have good Plato editions so there's quite a bit of intro there already, but what you said is what I wanted to know. How does Coplestone do it? Well then, it seems it'd be better to read it after the primary source.

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I really love this series, is there anything else that's similar you recommend?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharpe_(novel_series)
https://www.goodreads.com/series/168932-richard-sharpe-publication-order
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>>9939849
If you're enjoying the historical adventure novels, then oh boy is there a lot out there that you'll enjoy.

The rest of Bernard Cornwell's books will probably be right up your alley; Flashman will appeal to you, though he's not as straight-laced as Sharpe (and Sharpe gets up to some bad stuff); and finally Horatio Hornblower.

Obviously there's more than just those, but they should be a nice next step from Sharpe.
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>>9941149
Further to that, if you're okay with sci-fi, then the Gaunt's Ghosts novels are so heavily inspired by Sharpe that it's often called Sharpe in Space.
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War and Peace

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