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>>8768523
read Stirner.

>>8768524
kill yoursekf

Richard Fort

>>8768510
This is really epic
>>8768506
Get some pussy, family

Do it faggot. Companies are realizing that they still need people who can communicate efficiently with text. 90% of people can't fucking do this at all and you have to waste a shitload of time just trying to decipher some idiot's email

>>8768510

>Writers can't make money

Okay, friendo :^)

>>8768480
of the finished work

Also, it's grammer

>>8768488
I still don't understand why. and i'm pretty sure its grammar.

>>8768480
At various points in my life, I finished up a task and excitedly, dutifully, or resignedly announced its completion by saying “I’m done”. And most of the times, this was met with a congratulation, or at least warm indifference. On rare occasions, it was met with a succinct rebuke:

“Cakes are done. People are finished.”

That was all; no explanation given, and me left sitting there wondering why, if the subject of cake was going to be broached, it wasn’t to give me one as a reward. Because the response was so untethered to rational explanation, I would quickly forget about it, only to be reminded each time that I bothered to tell this person that I was done.

Well, I’m done. And so’s the rule. Let me turn the floor over to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary of English Usage (MWDEU):

“Done in the sense of ‘finished’ has been subject to a certain amount of criticism over the years for reasons that are not readily apparent.”

The reasons aren’t unreadily apparent, either; they simply aren’t. MWDEU traces the prohibition against humans being done to MacCracken and Sandison’s 1917 book Manual of Good English, which offers no explanation for its impropriety. In the near-century since, no one else has found a reason for it either. What passes for a justification is that one-liner I quoted above; for instance, in one professor’s list of “errors to avoid“, we’re given this explanation, posted in its entirety:

“30. If something has been completed, it is finished–it is not ‘done’. Remember, cakes are done; people are finished.”

It looks to me that the real reason why people started complaining about this usage is that it had two signs of the prescriptivist devil: it was a new usage, and it was a non-standard usage. To be done, the MWDEU reports, supplanted to have done for states of being starting sometime in the 1700s or earlier, which on a prescriptivist timescale somehow counts as “new”. Furthermore, the OED classifies this usage as chiefly Irish, Scottish, American, and dialectal, which to a prescriptivist is just a long way of saying improper. And usually finished sounds fancier than done, which no doubt contributed to the distaste for done.

But unless you believe in 300-year-old grudges, there’s no reason to be against people being done. According to the OED, Thomas Jefferson used it, as did Jeremy Bentham (the philospoher, not the Lost character) and others. There’s no grammatical logic why done and finished are any different, either. In fact, I would go so far as to say that if it weren’t for its snappy motto, this injunction would long ago gone the way of the dodo. Let’s try to help it toward that fate.

Summary: Cakes are done; people are finished? Nope. Cakes can also be finished and people can also be done. And stop mentioning cake if you’re only teasing me.

>>8768417
You read Hegel

>>8768420
>>8768423
not a bad idea desu

any other philosopher ideas?

>>8768417
Stop making me hungry OP

>>8768397
aurelius, meditations

>>8768397
Let Nietzsche destroy your conception of 'rationality' and 'wisdom'.

>>8768407
Nietzsche wrote extensively, and seems to require quite a bit of perquisite knowledge to understand. Am I wrong in this assessment?

This is stupid. It doesn't matter if you think it would "work," because in reality the book was hugely influential to the development of modern political conception. It's not a platform, it's theory. And it's importance is that Hobbes was one of the first thinkers to make the citizenry centrally important to the organization of a society.

It doesn't matter if they dislike their monarch's actions. For hobbes, the sovereign is only supposed to provide safety, sustainability, and predictability. It doesn't matter what his subjects think.

>>8768189
Sovereign's legitimacy is based upon the soke aasuption that people would be worse off in the state of nature.
The whole "constant state of war" idea is, however, flawed, as it is a pseudohistorical attempt to imagine a primitive society. According to Hobbes, before a state was created, people lived individual lives nit associating themselves with any collective. But if you look at our history, there was never a point in time when people lived in a state of nature as envisaged by Hobbes.

If you're really asking this question your brain is already fixed on fiction.

>>8768078
I just read the wiki page and he says it's non fiction but some experts disagree.

Which way does /lit/ lean on this one?

>>8768073
sockpuppet

>>8768082
retard

>>8768068
Take your shitty infiltration op somewhere fucking else. IDC about /pol/, but I don't want you redditcoms short shitting up the board either

>>8767782
2:1

>>8767782
Aggripa lists the proper ratio for Aqua Regia as 1:3 parts (molar) Nitric and Sulfuric Acid and this is the proper balance used today. Aqua Regia is an essential mixture still used in modern chemistry with applications that include etching and cleaning. Aqua Regia, latin for King Water, is one of the most caustic mixtures known to modern chemists and can break down even the most oxidative metals like Gold.

I have 33 nonfiction and 15 fiction books.

>>8767756
how is he a meme. what do you by meme? what's your definition of meme?

>>8767771
Don't ever reply to my posts again

>>8767756
can you bring yourself to use a word other than 'meme'? or are you a fucking child? if so dont ever post in here again.

well both

>>8768368
>>8768362
So he was an insightful little shit then?

>insightful
why are you reading poetry?

>>8767724
Infinite Jest

Virginia Woolf then.

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>>8767732
kind of

A good person to really understand the way they use indirect discourse is Hurston, because of the way the dialect seeps into the prose. She is the easiest to figure out what they're doing.

>>8767674
lacan or bust

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It's useful for writing.

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>>8767674
Some of the first and some of the last

;_;

I still somewhat like Terence Mckenna

>>8767671
i grew out of him, yes, but i don't mean this in a negative way. it's the same as growing out of the phantom tollbooth or harry potter. the books were important for a specific moment in my life but that moment passed. i'll treasure the nostalgia of reading him in college always.

Stop right there kid. You're just feeling down and want some faggots to tell you some faggotry to feel better because your teenage life is shit.

But your thread is so low-quality and low-energy that I'd recommend you to read the fucking Art of the Deal.

Faggot.

Things will continue, in some ways worse, in some ways better, until they don't anymore. It's all beyond your control anyway, so in the meantime just focus your efforts on pursuing your interests and cultivating meaningful relationships.

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>>8767584
The way I see it, anon, is we have two paths before us. On one side, we have a bright future. Humankind learns to put aside petty differences, learns to work together, and the resulting discoveries propel us into an eternal golden age.

On the other side, we have a slow, painful decline fueled by hatred, ignorance, and fear. Despite the best efforts of a minority of thinkers, the human race falls once again like all the great empires of the past. We drift into a new dark age where we are savaged by plague, disease, and war. Eventually, the Earth is reduced to a global wasteland and humans eke out a miserable existence.

But hey, that's just me.