Hey /lit/, does anyone here know where I can find the image which groups Plato's dialogues into different categories or subjects.
Like which dialogues discuss epistemology, which ones are on justice, which ones on rhetoric, love etc.
Much obliged
Whaat's the best edition of gibbon's decline and fall of the roman empire?
>>8799670
His early work is on ethics, his middle work is on epistemology and metaphysics, and his later work is politics and teleology
>>8801068
The one with the chapters you'll want to read.
Apparently rare to find a full set of the originals. Probably priced out, so you have to you have to be some kind of Gibbon scholar fanboy if you want to invest in that.
Normally I'm somewhat of a completest but a lot of what this guy wrote hasn't aged well. Good read though, good prose.
the absolute madman
Is this your poetry?
>>8799653
>>>/r9k/
>>8799681
it's an excerpt from Towards the Creative Nothing by Renzo Novatore, an egoist anarchist from the 20th century. I was reading the book and it pretty much read like he was LARPing as Stirner, and then I came across this excerpt and I laughed out loud because it reads like an /r9k/ manifesto. Anyway that's what I did with my day
How do you learn to read fast aka stop subvocalizing?
And can you go thru walls of text without losing any details?
I've heard it's good to read with your finger. Also, you will always lose some details or meaning by reading very quickly, but it's good for nonfiction I guess
>>8799620
Read How To Read a Book
And yes, with practice, you can read a dense page in a few seconds and get more out of it then a normal schmuck would.
All literary giants were what we'd now call 'speed readers'.
Read this paper:
http://psi.sagepub.com/content/17/1/4.full
"Subvocalization = bad" is a myth created by the hucksters trying to shill their speed-reading program. The problem is that subvocalization is intrinsic to the way we learn and understand language. Getting rid of subvocalization will hurt your comprehension immensely.
Furthermore, as the paper suggests, the main reasons why certain notable people have been able to "speedread" (or, more accurately, skim) texts with decent comprehension are because 1) they might have already read the text and 2) they already know so much about the background of the text that they can easily sniff out the important bits. (and yes, the paper does say this: ctrl+f Kennedy)
>Never use the word quite when I write or talk
>These really smart dudes do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoA6GFnAELI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbgV6_m-Co4
>Realize because I don't use the word quite I'm retarded
This is quite a discovery. I'm having a bit of trouble taking it all in. Didn't know I was an idiot.
Truly, my IQ is low.
>>8799597
>>8799597
I try not to use it in order to not feel like a stuffy college professor who wears fuzzy sweaters and calls everything interesting.
I think it is worth it to try and eliminate a lot of common words from one's vocabulary. I've been making a conscious effort to try and stop saying "like" "really," and "um." It's difficult.
Is this book even worth reading or is it just DUDE COMMUNISM LMAO?
For the love of Marx read it
Its more a criticism of Stalin than communism itself. Orwell was an avid socialist.
>>8799596
With so much disinformation on the subject, Animal Farm, and Orwell more broadly, is a very good thing to read to cut through the crap.
>The stink of shit floods his nose, gathering him, surrounding. . . The turd slides into his mouth, down to his gullet. He gags, but
bravely clamps his teeth shut. Bread that would only have floated in porcelain waters
somewhere, unseen, untasted . . .
>With his tongue he mashes shit against the roof of his mouth and begins to chew, thickly now, the only sound in the room . . .
Was this really necessary?
I remember reading the whole screencap that was posted, but didn't catch the name of the book. Sauce?
>>8799581
Darude by Sandstorm
>>8799581
My diary teebeeaych
Is being well-versed in philosophy a neccessary prerequisite to understand literature better? After all, you can reduce any work of literature to one or another philosophical idea.
>>8799534
No.
Not really.
>>8799534
>After all, you can reduce any work of literature to one or another philosophical idea.
wow. please get out of this board
So, I've been struggling though self-identification issues lately. I get uber jealous of people who have a direction in their lives, have a sense of humour and dress according to their fashion. Every time I have a choice to do something, I just can't put my finger on it. There are so many options, but I don't even know who am I and why I should prefer x over y.
If you know books that deal with this feel, recommend anything. Philosophy, fiction, psychoanalysis. Anything except pleb YA and self-help would do
>>8799472
I hate people coming to /lit/ like it's some fucking self help guru, as if literature was better suited than drugs or /v/ to lift some loser out of his depressive cycle. Protip, lit isn't a prophylactic. It has no use value. You don't read to "deal with" your feels. You read for enjoyment. There is nothing in literature beyond that.
>>8799493
Oh come on, this post just reeks of ignorance. If you have rationalized a problem already, it might be healthy to read some theory. Videogames and drugs are painkillers, they won't magically resolve the problem. And if you can "only read for enjoyment", I don't even know what to say
>>8799472
Here's some real advice. Get off the internet, get out of your shell, go meet some of these cool people, hang out with them. Don't go into this with any set expectations. If they're genuinely cool people you'll start to like them and adopt their style. Most of the improvement in your life will be subconscious.
Are spooks a meme, or are memes a spook?
What about literature OP?
>>8799412
all memes are spooks, but not all spooks are memes
>>8799412
>still posting this dead meme
Which of these are worth reading?
http://bookriot.com/2016/10/17/100-must-read-books-and-comics-from-the-90s/
>>8799317
#13
>>8799317
As a person who has used the site Book Riot before I am surprised they have #60 on the list.
>>8799317
>and-comics
Not even looking.
I know we don't usually touch on foreign language special topics here, but I'm calling on the small community of Spanish readers on here: which do you prefer, Clásicos Castália or Cátedra?
>>8799310
No conozco Clásicos Castalia. ¿Valen la pena? ¿Qué recomiendas?
Honestamente, las ediciones Cátedra me parecen muy bien hechas en todos los sentidos. Sobre todo sus introducciones me parecen útiles para poner el libro en contexto.
Las traducciones son fáciles de leer y siento que respetan el sentido original del texto.
En cuanto a los textos en español antiguos, como el Quijote, las notas al pie de página son interesantes sin ser saturadas. Hay otras versiones con tantas notas al pie que la mitad de la página es texto y la otra mitad son las notas. Supongo que para académicos (o incluso aficionados) que exigen mucha atención al detalle estarán contentos con esas versiones, pero para mi un poco de notas, como en las Cátedra, basta.
También me han recomendado otra editorial que se llama Galaxia Gutenberg que no he tenido oportunidad de ver. (Nota: ahora leo poco en español porque ya no vivo en México).
>>8799377
>no conozco castalia
sos tremendo cerote
Nunca he leído un libro en edición de Clásicos Castalia, pero sí en Cátedra, y puedo decir que son excelentes.
Hi I recently found myself quite interested in Epics and I was wondering where and how I should start reading them.
with the greeks
>>8799209
This, actually
Iliad and Odyssey
What do you think about Lovecraft's prose and writing?
I usually see him bashed here with memes over his style, and I don't really understand why.
Sure, you can dislike his characteristic "inability to describe the indescribable", but that's kind of his point, and it works as he succeeds very well in portraying this human helplessness in front of the unknown. Not to say that he does describe actual things in an extremely vivid way and has great imagery.
When I read his work I feel like every sentence was well thought upon before being put specifically there in its specific form. And you just pass over pages of aesthetically crafted sentences.
When I read stories like The Color Out of Space, for example, it's impressive to see his manner of being able to stay at the same high level of writing from start to finish.
>>8799177
As many prolific authors he gets bashed here becuase people here dont actually read so they cant have a well formed opinion on his work.
>>8799177
>When I read his work I feel like every sentence was well thought upon before being put specifically there in its specific form.
This is exactly why I like listening to audiobook versions of his stories. Librivox has a lot of them. I recommend the reanimator and it is that story which gave Batman the Arkham asylum.
When you are writing stories that involve leading a reader's imagination in certain directions at certain times to create suspense and mental imagery then you find that Lovecraft's style is superb.
>>8799177
Lovecraft represents this bleak turn of the century zeitgeist, borne from the poets of decadence, occultism, the birth pangs of globalization and deterritorialization, killer machines, futurism, etc. I feel that sort of aesthetic has been making a huge comeback, think Nick Land, Vaporwave, Anime, post-cyberpunk, the rebirth of both Marxism and fascism. It's all got an early 20th century ring to it.
I feel like rading a story about overcoming terrible odds and improving or failing in the process. Basically a story about an underdog. Any suggestions?
(Not your diary ples)
Isn't that pretty much what every single genre fiction book is about?
>>8799074
Stoner
>>8799077
Am I going to get memed witht his one or is it a legit suggestion?
So there's a lot of books that get called high school level reading around here. What books would you consider freshman college - college graduate level literature?
Infinite Jest is freshman faggot core
Freshman:
.Anything by Ayn Rand if it's not read as a literary response to Communism
. Orwell
. Palahniuk
. ASOIAF
. The Prince
. Kierkegaard
. The Republic
. The Oresteia
. Mein Kampf
. Hunter S. Thompson
. Communist Manifesto
All these items have value but I read them in high school and upon arriving at university, found a lot of people talking about these very books. So I'm not saying these books are shit, but they are things you should move beyond by the time you're in grad school or even upper level undergrad.