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>>8844345
Stop the Gaddis spam

>>8844368
I'd rather people spam Gaddis than DFW.

>>8844216
my diary to be honest

>>8844216
Bump for Christmas ideas

Something happened

>>8844206
HIJACKED

List a better moment in the novel than the final goodbye between Humbert and Lo and Humbert fucking with the reader's head about killing her

>>8844206
>he didn't even make it past the Doritos

>>8844206
reply unironically taking your post seriously followed by several arrows pointing you to a different board on 4chan.

>>8844188

why don't you lurk more?

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i just want to know !

why france don't speak english good?

"Notmie-Ishmael" I need to stop making threads on mobile. I meant "normie-ish"

And I also meant a "bit mainstream" yeesh, this thread is just me making a mockery of the English language.

>>8844168
>I need to stop making threads
fulfill your needs anon

I think Steve is a really great guy and a good author

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>>8844105
Here is the reviewers’ choice books

>>8844105
I dropped The Long Way off my reading list because somebody on another site mentioned there's a character who basically exists to be mean to everybody, and the ship's captain does nothing about this or the other crew don't just give him a blanket party ("it's just a bad dream fatboy") for causing trouble, which really just breaks one's suspension of disbelief.

I wrote an entire novel without using any words

>>8844075
By not writing half baked gimmick trash lit.

ya but his name has about 4 of them

fuckin fag lol

>>8844047
just read my diary for inspiration to be honest

>>8844245
pdf's where desu

>>8844248
oh haha I'm afraid not

>>8843948
post it

>>8843948
http://spinelessbooks.com/mccaffery/100/index.html

Yours maybe. Certainly not mine though.

Don't worry. It will all be over soon.

What does humanity mean?

Will we - as a global culture - change with time? Yes.
Specify what aspect of the human condition you are referring to, and how you are perceiving society to move away from it

Today I overheard a conversation between three old men in a bus stop.

One of them spoke with conviction about the Syrians. The resolution, obviously to him, was to nuke the whole thing.

That's about /pol/.

>shit you and your lads came up with to fuck with people you hate for fun is being examined as areal cultural shift with actual weight to it
Truly we live in the best timeline

>>8843943
/pol/ isn't smart enough to appreciate that article.

>>8843875
what do you like

Start with the Greeks, obviously.

>>8843875
start with the hardest thing you're interested in and if you fail start lower and work your way up. it will give you a goal. the first book I tried to read was ulyssess like 10 years ago because I heard it was the best. 60 pages in and I wasn't comprehending shit. but I wanted to read it. goals.

>>8843836
USE THE ARCHIVE

>>8843836
I loved it. Bleak, but I don't know about catastrophic. Moody, certainly. Maybe a bit sloppy. Very Russian.

I've heard mixed things about the sequels but haven't read them.

>>8843845
*claustrophobic.

Sorry, yes, it is that.

Modernism is a cultural reaction to the industrialization of the late 18th and 19th century, and although it is reflected in literature and art, it began as a cultural change in the consensus of thought.
I'm not sure that there really is a debate, or a rejection to what Modernism and Postmodernism mean. It is true that Modernism and Postmodernism have broad definitions and will ultimately overlap with other literary traditions, however it is incorrect to say that "Modernist believe that systems of thought might lead us to a perfected form of humanity." Modernism and Postmodernism are not an antithesis to each other but rather reactions to cultural movements. Modernism is a reaction to society becoming more industrialized and mechanized in the 18th and 19th century, and postmodernism is a reaction to the modernist reaction.
It would be more correct to state that Modernism is a rejection of realism and an attempt to deal with the impact of modernization, like urbanization, industrialization, and the growing feelings of alienation, and anomie. This rejection of realism also overlaps with surrealism. Some tenets of modernist literature would be:
* A Validation of private experiences through aesthetics and inwardness
* Stream of consciousness subverts chronological narrative
* Radical experiments with form and language
* Predilection for fragmented forms and collages of eclectic material
* Exploration of psychological disorders
* Uses avant-garde techniques to critque/condemn mass culture and fascism
* Challenges bourgeois norms of gender and sexuality
* Critiques bourgeois values: business ethics, utilitarianism, materialism
* Apocalyptic overtones, comic grotesquerie, violent eroticism
To give a few examples of modernist works from American literature one can consider: The Great Gatsby, Tender Buttons, The Sun Also Rises, Tropic of Cancer, The Day of the Locust
Postmodernism on the other-hand is more difficult. Essentially it is a deconstruction of, and reaction against modernism and the academicism and elitism that was perceived to be part of it. Alternatively, postmodernist literature takes on a more self aware tone, embracing ideas like intertextuality (the idea that one texts meaning shapes another) through uses of sampling, pastiche, and parody. A few characteristics of Postmodernist literature would be:
* Self-reflexive focus on the compositional process of writing
* Ironic inclusion of modernist artistic codes and conventions
* Confusion on the ontological level
* Anti-metaphysical focus on the contingency of knowledge and the role of chance
* Subversion of "high" culture/ "mass" culture distinctions
* Ironic Stereotyping replaces psychological characterization
* Interest in cybernetic themes such as entropy, and communication
* late-capitalist issues such as hyperconsumption and media imperialism
A few works to exemplify this would be: Pale Fire, V, Slaughterhouse-Five, The Public Burning, How German Is It, White Noise, Et Tu Babe.

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Postmodernism is a rejection of all metanarratives, a move beyond relationality, sameness, predication, "isness", materialism, idealism, and beyond epistemology - beyond knowing altogether

Very few can actually follow through with the basic mission, most are just posers still stuck in modernity

>>8843728
Read Jameson's 'Postmodernism, or, the cultural logic of late capitalism'

>>8843700
Commie cuck. He needs the redpill

>>8843700
Is you question about why Bill Watterson hated consumerism or why consumerism is bad?

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