Let's use this thread to talk about the GOAT.
>>8847575
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
>>8847575
the fact he used all that time on wake pisses me off.
>>8847583
Post Joycean sound effects.
>seesoo, hrss, rsseeiss, ooos
Hey all just an absolute pleb of literature here to say I enjoyed this book, as I have enjoyed all the books of Rice, particularly the Chronicles. It has been interesting to chart her style from early on, with her obsession over detail and descriptive language, eschewing a lot of it (for editorial brevity I suspect) for straight dialogue and exposition in later novels.
Is anyone here a reader of Rice? Feel free to insult away. I suspect she's too pedestrian for the likes of this ivory tower.
From the Author to the Some of the Negative Voices Here, September 6, 2004
Seldom do I really answer those who criticize my work. In fact, the entire development of my career has been fueled by my ability to ignore denigrating and trivializing criticism as I realize my dreams and my goals. However there is something compelling about Amazon's willingness to publish just about anything, and the sheer outrageous stupidity of many things you've said here that actually touches my proletarian and Democratic soul. Also I use and enjoy Amazon and I do read the reviews of other people's books in many fields. In sum, I believe in what happens here. And so, I speak. First off, let me say that this is addressed only to some of you, who have posted outrageously negative comments here, and not to all. You are interrogating this text from the wrong perspective. Indeed, you aren't even reading it. You are projecting your own limitations on it. And you are giving a whole new meaning to the words "wide readership." And you have strained my Dickensean principles to the max. I'm justifiably proud of being read by intellectual giants and waitresses in trailer parks,in fact, I love it, but who in the world are you? Now to the book. Allow me to point out: nowhere in this text are you told that this is the last of the chronicles, nowhere are you promised curtain calls or a finale, nowhere are you told there will be a wrap-up of all the earlier material. The text tells you exactly what to expect. And it warns you specifically that if you did not enjoy Memnoch the Devil, you may not enjoy this book. This book is by and about a hero whom many of you have already rejected. And he tells you that you are likely to reject him again. And this book is most certainly written -- every word of it -- by me. If and when I can't write a book on my own, you'll know about it. And no, I have no intention of allowing any editor ever to distort, cut, or otherwise mutilate sentences that I have edited and re-edited, and organized and polished myself. I fought a great battle to achieve a status where I did not have to put up with editors making demands on me, and I will never relinquish that status. For me, novel writing is a virtuoso performance. It is not a collaborative art.
Back to the novel itself: the character who tells the tale is my Lestat. I was with him more closely than I have ever been in this novel; his voice was as powerful for me as I've ever heard it. I experienced break through after break through as I walked with him, moved with him, saw through his eyes. What I ask of Lestat, Lestat unfailingly gives. For me, three hunting scenes, two which take place in hotels -- the lone woman waiting for the hit man, the slaughter at the pimp's party -- and the late night foray into the slums --stand with any similar scenes in all of the chronicles. They can be read aloud without a single hitch. Every word is in perfect place. The short chapter in which Lestat describes his love for Rowan Mayfair was for me a totally realized poem. There are other such scenes in this book. You don't get all this? Fine. But I experienced an intimacy with the character in those scenes that shattered all prior restraints, and when one is writing one does have to continuously and courageously fight a destructive tendency to inhibition and restraint. Getting really close to the subject matter is the achievement of only great art. Now, if it doesn't appeal to you, fine. You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else. But your stupid arrogant assumptions about me and what I am doing are slander. And you have used this site as if it were a public urinal to publish falsehood and lies. I'll never challenge your democratic freedom to do so, and yes, I'm answering you, but for what it's worth, be assured of the utter contempt I feel for you, especially those of you who post anonymously (and perhaps repeatedly?) and how glad I am that this book is the last one in a series that has invited your hateful and ugly responses. Now, to return to the narrative in question: Lestat's wanting to be a saint is a vision larded through and through with his characteristic vanity. It connects perfectly with his earlier ambitions to be an actor in Paris, a rock star in the modern age.
If you can't see that, you aren't reading my work. In his conversation with the Pope he makes observations on the times which are in continuity with his observations on the late twentieth century in The Vampire Lestat, and in continuity with Marius' observations in that book and later in Queen of the Damned. The state of the world has always been an important theme in the chronicles. Lestat's comments matter. Every word he speaks is part of the achievement of this book. That Lestat renounced this saintly ambition within a matter of pages is plain enough for you to see. That he reverts to his old self is obvious, and that he intends to complete the tale of Blackwood Farm is also quite clear. There are many other themes and patterns in this work that I might mention -- the interplay between St.Juan Diago and Lestat, the invisible creature who doesn't "exist" in the eyes of the world is a case in point. There is also the theme of the snare of Blackwood Farm, the place where a human existence becomes so beguiling that Lestat relinquishes his power as if to a spell. The entire relationship between Lestat and Uncle Julien is carefully worked out. But I leave it to readers to discover how this complex and intricate novel establishes itself within a unique, if not unrivalled series of book. There are things to be said. And there is pleasure to be had. And readers will say wonderful things about Blood Canticle and they already are. There are readers out there and plenty of them who cherish the individuality of each of the chronicles which you so flippantly condemn. They can and do talk circles around you. And I am warmed by their response. Their letters, the papers they write in school, our face to face exchanges on the road -- these things sustain me when I read the utter trash that you post. But I feel I have said enough. If this reaches one reader who is curious about my work and shocked by the ugly reviews here, I've served my goals. And Yo, you dude, the slang police! Lestat talks like I do. He always has and he always will. You really wouldn't much like being around either one of us. And you don't have to be. If any of you want to say anything about all this by all means Email me at [email protected]. And if you want your money back for the book, send it to 1239 First Street, New Orleans, La, 70130. I'm not a coward about my real name or where I live. And yes, the Chronicles are no more! Thank God!
ITT: Post your most elitist literary opinions
i honestly believe if things were fair then a tax would be levied against plebs to transfer wealth from them to me and everyone on this board to finance our shitposting and reading because we're superior beings that need our solitude and it's an injustice for us to even have to be in the same room as a philistine
>>8847505
read the books /lit isn't talking about.
>>8847505
The idea that the quality of a piece of literature can be objectively qualified
There is nothing more subjective than literature. For one thing, you have to speak the fucking language. For another, your comprehension of the language will have a direct bearing on your judgement of the piece's quality.
That alone makes it more involved than a painting which anyone with eyes can see.
Is it worth reading The Lord of the Rings if I have seen the films a million times?
Theres a lot of weird shit that got cut, like they all get roofied by an insane forest pixie that never appears again, and a really long epilogue where saruman is still alive and they need to stop him
>>8847447
Is it worth reading Harry Potter if i have seen the films a million times?
>>8847447
>Is it worth reading The Lord of the Rings if I have seen the films a million times?
i dont know
i don't get it
it's 400 pages of a guy not in a castle
most books are
>>8847422
fair
>>8847422
Fpbp
What are his other books like?
I found a copy of The Pale King in my local library, and I wanted to know if it's worth my time.
>>8847397
His nonfiction is extremely approachable and very funny. I highly recommend A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again, both the essay and the entire collection. The former is available online for free!
>>8847415
>!
cut yourself
>>8847397
>What are his other books like?
i dont know
How will Pynchon explain to his son all the pedophilia that goes on in his books?
>>8847393
>implying Jackson Pynchon bothered to read his papa's shit
>>8847416
>all those amazing names in his novels
>calls his son Jackson
Shameful
>>8847393
>How will Pynchon explain to his son all the pedophilia that goes on in his books?
i dont know
Why is this such an accurate depiction of /lit/?
>>8847369
Because everyone on here either masturbates to traps, or is a weeb virgin faggot
This Chinese cartoon is too much.
>>8847369
What am I in for?
Just watch Ikkitousen instead it's better
>>8847382
>Chinese cartoons
>>8847351
Chinky snorefest
>product unavailable
Yeah I wonder why
Fucking elites trying to keep me from breaking free from my Rousseauian chains. The matrix is real guys and philosophy is the cure. Start with Descartes, then go to Hume, Plato, Empiricists, leviathan, social contract and then to Spinoza. Kant will give you the details and german idealism will give you the fire. I'm getting there guys.
>>8847310
Solipsism is such a dangerous philosophy to dig into. The more you doubt the more proof you will find of such. Do you actually believe the book isnt available because someone doesnt want you to read it?
>>8847310
>tfw believing in solipsism cured my depression
>>8847310
>no Hegel
You had one job.
Anyone read this?
Any other books by Sloterdijk? Is he our guy?
bump
he's both conservative and zniffman approved so he ought to be
Why an inverted teractys on the cover? Is he subverting the pythagorean influence of the Divine Plato?
Thoughts on this masterpiece?
What was Ahab's problem?
>>8847271
>babby's first homoerotic spermwhale fanfiction
>>8847271
i long to hear you away your rolling river. Oh mody dick i long to hear you . away , i am bound to go cross the wide missouri dam, i too a notion oooooo away the rolling river. to sail across the stormy ocean away i am bound to go
>>8847279
says i but joe you're ten years dead. I never died says he
What is the Hypernormalisation of literature? Who are Adam Curtis' literary influences?
>>8847234
Adam Curtis is a hack who throws together tangentially related bits of information he read on wikipedia and then reads them all off over archival footage.
>>8847234
I just watched that yesterday, to bad Curtis is an infantile liberal globalist or it could have been a lot better. His central thesis is fundamentally wrong on many levels. He has a rather superficial understanding of the actual deep nature of the post-Bretton Woods world order. You can't just reduce and interpret everything to some generalized [engineered] disillusionment.
If you want to how deep things really go here's some reading to start you off with:
The Road from Mont Pèlerin: The Making of the Neoliberal Thought Collective
Wall Street's Think Tank: The Council on Foreign Relations and the Empire of Neoliberal Geopolitics, 1976-2014
The Making Of Global Capitalism: The Political Economy Of American Empire
Forces of Production: A Social History of Industrial Automation
American War Machine: Deep Politics, the CIA Global Drug Connection, and the Road to Afghanistan
The Dual State: Parapolitics, Carl Schmitt and the National Security Complex
Something to really look into is the deep role that organized crime played in what happened to the USA economy beginning with the '60s and '70s mergers and acquisitions booms and especially the '80s leveraged buy-out boom... "Supermob: How Sidney Korshak and His Criminal Associates Became America's Hidden Power Brokers" would be a good place to start with that
>>8847234
>What is the Hypernormalisation of literature? Who are Adam Curtis' literary influences?
i dont know
>tfw other people are better at creating insightful metaphors because my thinking is too abstract to properly observe and distinguish the material world
Anyone else feel this way and/or have a dissociative disorder?
Don't worry anon, lots of people have autism :)
>>8847211
>I'm not as creative as I'd like to be and heres how I justify it
>>8847211
I feel you anon. I understand what you mean.
Not an excuse, but a challenge; a starting point at any rate.
Which writers weren't massive numale faggots or women? I watched Nocturnal animals and a serious man recently and realised that Jews and gay men are the only people able to contribute to culture these days.
I saw a book sale at the library and noticed a lot of female authors of fiction. I wouldnt bother with these out of principle because they have had easy lives and are literally adult-children. Though the best book ive read in the past year was by a woman so maybe my thesis is wrong.
>literally adult-children
>>8847176
>all women are adult-children
>not me tho, I'm an intellectchual