ITT: We post our favourite books, as well as judge eachother solely based on their pick. Here, I'll start:
My favourite book is Ada, by Nabokov, pic related
>>8853762
Mine too, actually. One day people will recognize it belongs among the other 20th century masterpieces (e.g. Ulysses, ISOLT).
On the other hand, those masterpieces all have a philosophical depth I've always felt Nabokov lacked. What do you think, OP?
>>8853788
I agree, especially with respect to In Search of Time Lost, it seems pretty clear that in Ada Nabokov was addressing the same things Proust was.
Re Philosophical depth: this is probably Nabokov's most philosophical novel (which isn't really saying much), specifically Part 4, about the "Texture of Time." But I don't think Nabokov was concerned about that, I can't recall the exact quote but Nabokov said something along the lines of "I have no care to make statements about a public moral, or philosophy, I simply want to create art." Maybe it will eventually come to float on its artistic/philological merit alone. One can hope
Oh and since we rate people in this thread I'm going to say you have exemplary taste
>>8853823
Oh certainly. To me it seems 'philosophical' in the same sense Pale Fire is, that is metaphysical as opposed to moral or 'human truth'---time, authorship, reliability, literary theory, etc. When I was younger I worshiped Nabokov's aesthete perspective (“Style and Structure are the essence of a book; great ideas are hogwash.”) and that's when I fell in love with Ada. However, now that I've gotten older and have become more well-read, I don't know, I'm starting to believe perhaps the greatest works of art do require some sort of treatise on human nature or spirituality.
Someone once told me Joyce's theory on literature was heavily influenced by medieval theologians and Dante, applying biblical exegesis to his own work, exemplifying the four modes of interpretation: literal/historical, allegorical, tropological (moral), and anagogical (spiritual/heavenly).
Basically, is Nabokov's value as a writer limited because he only addresses the literal? detesting allegories and believing novels were nothing more than beautiful and enchanting fairy tales? I'm conflicted.
Why are the results always so cringeworthy when manbaby comic book artists attempt to do literature?
He already communicated everything worth communicating in Promethea and this documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apmyg_IuWQI
It's already on the top 100 list, enough with the reverse psychology baiting
>>8853592
You didn't actually read past the first chapter, did you?
/lit/ cringe that you did.
>Hated on Stephen King while reading Richard Bachmann
>>8853560
>Read a book
It sucked.
>>8853560
I read a couple of books with movie covers.
Is there redemption for a siner such as I?
>>8853694
How old were you when you read them
Nabokov doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would want to have a child. Was Dimitri an accident? Was it a way to keep Vera busy so he could go butterfly hunting without having to worry about her taking the BBC?
>>8853525
It was all to cover his mad lust for butterflies
The normalish life? A facade!
The rampant pedophilic overtones? A red herring!
All Nabokov truly wanted was to fug the bugs, but naturally he had to hide this
>>8853525
Who says he wanted the child?
>nobles don't want male descendants
>implying you wouldn't push a human out your crotch for lifetime access to nabby's notes
Is he worth reading, /lit/?
Yeah man, definitely. He is the original "cultural Marxist." In the canon of Marxism, I would say he was only second to Marx and Engels in terms of profundity and depth of insight.
>>8853499
>only second to these two people
>>8853449
In your opinion what book is the complete opposite of post modern?
>>8853398
Ulysses
>>8853398
The Bible
This book is the definition of post-modern
Patrician Language Thread go:
Patrician: English, French, German, Portuguese, Russian
All else trash.
Stop making shit threads, ese
>>8853385
Sounds about right except for
>German
No amount of great writers can save German
>Portuguese
>patrician
No.
What does /lit/ think of Les Miserables?
I really like it and found it similar in style to Candide by Voltaire (though I read a shortened version of Les Mis).
I liked Javert for some reason. Do you know anyone like him in real life who gives that much of a fuck about the law? Also are there any interesting insights or things in the book you don't think others have noticed?
I have been reading it and It's been a great experience, because of the history but also beacause of the language.
By the way, I dont know anyone like Javert( thanks God)
Pretty good to read while high I hear.
>>8853530
Though I haven't tried it.
What I read, what I expected, what I got.
Template.
Confessions of a Mask.
>expected: faggotry, edgy
>got: faggotry, psychoanalysis, edgy, Jean Genet
I'm lazy.
DUDE PEOPLE THINKING LMAO
Milk, good for the bones. Human kindness. Pies on sale today. A thousand pages of this, and they call it good. Laughing my ass off.
Out the door. Stomach rumbling. Hunger. I'll buy a sandwich. Cheese. Too strong. Born to be milked. I'll have a glass. Thirsty. Turn back to get water? No. No point, already left.
Based on the way Mein Kampf was written, how does /lit/ think Hitler would have done if he tried his hand at writing, either fiction or non-fiction, and if so what would the story/subject have been?
This would have been a timeline were he pursued another form of art after failing to get into his art college.
>>8853199
>Reverse
>Ayn
>Rand
>>8853199
This book interested me when I was a 12 year old watching the history channel. I bought it and it was shit. How do all these "18+" individuals not see it for what it is: a poorly written manifesto with extreme historical interest but no literary value. If you want a great book by a nazi read Panzer Leader by Guderian.
>>8853208
the only people who say this are people who have never read it and just parroting what they read on reddit
hes not a bad writer at all even if you don't think jews should be put in gas chambers
Post your /lit/-lists
>>8853174
>Virgil above Ovid
>Completely forgot Homer
>Didn't blacklist Rand
>Dickens above Hemingway
>Hesse above Mann
>No Arno Schmidt
>What is Milton even doing there.
Accurately positioned Goethe tho props for that.
>>8853174
Tell me what to read. I'm a retard.
(You)
>hitler is a writer
>tolkien in the same level as stephen pig
.
>melancholia
>duality of x
>nihilism
>existential dread
Pseud
OP, why are you intentionally making this board worse?
Are you just queer for verbal abuse?
>>8853106
>pseud
Literally used only by people who don't understand what an intellectual actually is, just having a vague idea of some divine being that has transcended some just as vague line of possessing knowledge/'right' opinions
What are your thoughts on this spanish poem, guys?
>The Song of the Pirate, by José de Espronceda
The breeze fair aft, all sails on high,
Ten guns on each side mounted seen,
She does not cut the sea, but fly,
A swiftly sailing brigantine;
A pirate bark, the "Dreaded" name,
For her surpassing boldness famed,
On every sea well-known and shore,
From side to side their boundaries o'er.
The moon in streaks the waves illumes
Hoarse groans the wind the rigging through;
In gentle motion raised assumes
The sea a silvery shade with blue;
Whilst singing gaily on the poop
The pirate Captain, in a group,
Sees Europe here, there Asia lies,
And Stamboul in the front arise.
"Sail on, my swift one! nothing fear;
Nor calm, nor storm, nor foeman's force,
Shall make thee yield in thy career
Or turn thee from thy course.
Despite the English cruisers fleet
We have full twenty prizes made;
And see their flags beneath my feet
A hundred nations laid.
My treasure is my gallant bark,
My only God is liberty;
My law is might, the wind my mark,
My country is the sea.
"There blindly kings fierce wars maintain,
For palms of land, when here I hold
As mine, whose power no laws restrain,
Whate'er the seas infold.
Nor is there shore around whate'er,
Or banner proud, but of my might
Is taught the valorous proofs to bear,
And made to feel my right.
My treasure is my gallant bark,
My only God is liberty;
My law is might, the wind my mark,
My country is the sea.
"Look when a ship our signals ring,
Full sail to fly how quick she's veered!
For of the sea I am the king,
My fury's to be feared;
But equally with all I share
Whate'er the wealth we take supplies;
I only seek the matchless fair,
My portion of the prize.
My treasure is my gallant bark,
My only God is liberty;
My law is might, the wind my mark,
My country is the sea.
"I am condemned to die! -- I laugh;
For, if my fates are kindly sped,
My doomer from his own ship's staff
Perhaps I'll hang instead.
And if I fall, why what is life?
For lost I gave it then as due,
When from slavery's yoke in strife
A rover! I withdrew.
My treasure is my gallant bark,
My only God is liberty;
My law is might, the wind my mark,
My country is the sea.
"My music is the Northwind's roar;
The noise when round the cable runs,
The bellowings of the Black Sea's shore,
And rolling of my guns.
And as the thunders loudly sound,
And furious the tempests rave,
I calmly rest in sleep profound,
So rocked upon the wave.
My treasure is my gallant bark,
My only God is liberty;
My law is might, the wind my mark,
My country is the sea.
And here is the original version:
>1/2
>La Canción del Pirata, por José de Espronceda
Con diez cañones por banda,
viento en popa, a toda vela,
no corta el mar, sino vuela,
un velero bergantín.
Bajel pirata que llaman,
por su bravura, El Temido,
en todo mar conocido,
del uno al otro confín.
La luna en el mar riela,
en la lona gime el viento,
y alza en blando movimiento
olas de plata y azul;
y ve el capitán pirata,
cantando alegre en la popa,
Asia a un lado, al otro Europa,
y allá a su frente Estambul:
«Navega, velero mío,
sin temor,
que ni enemigo navío
ni tormenta, ni bonanza
tu rumbo a torcer alcanza,
ni a sujetar tu valor.
Veinte presas
hemos hecho
a despecho
del inglés,
y han rendido
sus pendones
cien naciones
a mis pies.»
Que es mi barco mi tesoro,
que es mi dios la libertad,
mi ley, la fuerza y el viento,
mi única patria, la mar.
«Allá muevan feroz guerra,
ciegos reyes
por un palmo más de tierra;
que yo aquí tengo por mío
cuanto abarca el mar bravío,
a quien nadie impuso leyes.
Y no hay playa,
sea cualquiera,
ni bandera
de esplendor,
que no sienta
mi derecho
y dé pecho
a mi valor.»
Que es mi barco mi tesoro,
que es mi dios la libertad,
mi ley, la fuerza y el viento,
mi única patria, la mar.
>>8853091
>2/2
A la voz de «¡barco viene!»
es de ver
como vira y se previene,
a todo trapo a escapar;
que yo soy el rey del mar,
y mi furia es de temer.
En las presas
yo divido
lo cogido
por igual;
sólo quiero
por riqueza
la belleza
sin rival.
Que es mi barco mi tesoro,
que es mi dios la libertad,
mi ley, la fuerza y el viento,
mi única patria, la mar.
¡Sentenciado estoy a muerte!
Yo me río;
no me abandone la suerte,
y al mismo que me condena,
colgaré de alguna entena,
quizá en su propio navío.
Y si caigo,
¿qué es la vida?
Por perdida
ya la di,
cuando el yugo
del esclavo,
como un bravo,
sacudí.
Que es mi barco mi tesoro,
que es mi dios la libertad,
mi ley, la fuerza y el viento,
mi única patria, la mar.
Son mi música mejor
aquilones,
el estrépito y temblor
de los cables sacudidos,
del negro mar los bramidos
y el rugir de mis cañones.
Y del trueno
al son violento,
y del viento
al rebramar,
yo me duermo
sosegado,
arrullado
por la mar.
Que es mi barco mi tesoro,
que es mi dios la libertad,
mi ley, la fuerza y el viento,
mi única patria, la mar.
Spaniards. We the best.
>polygamous
>thinks femininity is obviously better than 'physical' masculinity
>race doesn't exist (not in the sense we think)
>pandered to NaSocs because Italian Fascists wouldn't ascribe to his worldview that is centered around axiomatic truths only a 'few' will know
>actually thinks fascism is another profane collectivism
>criticizes war in modern times
>criticizes scientific advancement and technological advancement
Why is Evola so worshiped by the right? I read Evola and Guenon because I was very right-leaning, and I've almost read all of Evola's books (well, English translations at the least) now, and if anything it has pulled me away from politics. It definitely hasn't gravitated me toward any 'right' politics.
I want to spark up some discussion with this. How do people on the right feel Evola's worldview fits their own?
>>8853081
Evola is to the right of fascism. Fascism is ultimately just another modern mass movement, while Evola opposes modernity itself.
>>8853095
What does that mean, exactly? What is the metric for 'right' in this sense?
>>8853081
Evola sought to combine Nietschean thought with a transcendent element, in addition to just general reactionary thought.
He was primarily interested in the warrior aristocrat of old. Have you read the works of Joseph De Maistre? You can sense a lot of similarities.
Basically, my view is that Evola attempted to combine De Maistrean thought with Nietzchean thought, perhaps throw in a bit of Neo-platonism. That's my view at least.
Whether he was "right-wing" is rather irrelevant, seeing as "left and right" were products of the French Revolution, which he considered a significant historical stepping-stone in the rise of Modernity and thereby a collapse of a Higher Tradition.