Thoughts on this book?
>>8996733
స్మెల్లీ పెద్ద పాయువు పుస్తకం
>>8996733
Just finished it about half an hour ago. I thought it was pretty funny and it made me think of this board a lot. Not all that great, but a fun one-time read.
Have you read it? If so, your thoughts?
Pretty good. I like the backstory to it.
>Guy writes book, sends to an agent.
>Agent says he likes it, but he thinks it should be edited down.
>Guy flips his shit, says he'll never do that, then kills himself.
>His mom gets it published over 10 years after his death, and it wins a Pulitzer.
I can't help but think that....maybe if he listened to the agent, he could have won a nobel.
do i have to start with the greeks
nah, it's the equivalent of trying to cure ilnesses with ancient snake oils instead of using state of the art medication
>>8996693
t. analogy expert
Is irony still irony if it's expected?
>>8996643
Just the answer I was looking for. Thanks.
>>8996630
Ironically no
That is dramatic irony
Learn basic literary techniques
Should I read it? Is there a specific way to use it?
What's the best one?
>>8996565
Look up words you come across that you don't know...
I have collins 1997, is that too old? (For real -- 'blamestorming'... really?)
Owning a dictionary is the mark of a pseud. There's no reason at all to own a physical one in two thousand & seventeen.
Does anyone here like Colin Wilson?
Have you been to the English deer park?
>>8996491
Fuck yeah. I was thinking about starting this thread yesterday.
Let's talk about Man Without a Shadow.
Sure, The Outsider is pretty great. Have no time for his occult related bullshit, though.
>Squeeze! squeeze! squeeze! all the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed that sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me; and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-laborers’ hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules. Such an abounding, affectionate, friendly, loving feeling did this avocation beget; that at last I was continually squeezing their hands, and looking up into their eyes sentimentally; as much as to say,- Oh! my dear fellow beings, why should we longer cherish any social acerbities, or know the slightest ill-humor or envy! Come; let us squeeze hands all round; nay, let us all squeeze ourselves into each other; let us squeeze ourselves universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness.
>Would that I could keep squeezing that sperm for ever! For now, since by many prolonged, repeated experiences, I have perceived that in all cases man must eventually lower, or at least shift, his conceit of attainable felicity; not placing it anywhere in the intellect or the fancy; but in the wife, the heart, the bed, the table, the saddle, the fire-side; the country; now that I have perceived all this, I am ready to squeeze case eternally. In thoughts of the visions of the night, I saw long rows of angels in paradise, each with his hands in a jar of spermaceti.
Discuss.
>>8996428
verbose
*BRAAAAAAAP*
*SHHHHPLURT*
INTELLlGENT
NIHILISTlC
WlCKED SENSE OF HUMOR
>>8996378
So essentially, black humour is popular among pseuds?
Who would've thought.
Ridiculous. I'm about as intelligent as they come (not bragging), and I never thought Dave Chappelle, for instance, was at all funny.
>>8996378
I like a good gallows joke as much as (or more than) the next man, but it gets old and a lot of the time it's le edgy or brutal 'humor'.
Whats /lit/s stance on memorizing poetry?
How many poems can you recite? Did you ever attempt to memorize a long/epic poem?
>>8996361
absolutely pointless
the only people who would be "impressed" by this are the kinds of people you do not want to associate with
In any normal circumstance, virtually any poem is only a google search away.
>>8996361
>Whats /lit/s stance on memorizing poetry?
Acceptable only if the poem memorized is one you wrote.
>>8996370
>committing beautiful things to your memory is pointless
Okay, let me get this out of the way: TS Eliot was an anti-semite and a general all around asshole, but he was also a great poet.
The famous beginning of The Wasteland seems like empty poetic gesturing, but in actuality it's a direct allusion to the opening of the Canterbury Tales.
"WHAN that Aprille with his shoures soote
The droghte of Marche hath perced to the roote,
And bathed every veyne in swich 3 licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
Whan Zephirus eek with his swete breeth
Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
Hath in the Ram his halfe cours y-ronne,"
"APRIL is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.
Winter kept us warm, covering
Earth in forgetful snow, feeding
A little life with dried tubers.
Summer surprised us, coming over the Starnbergersee
With a shower of rain; we stopped in the colonnade,
And went on in sunlight, into the Hofgarten,"
Thoughts?
>>8996349
REAL men are anti-semites. Try a redpill
>TS Eliot was an anti-semite and a general all around asshole
Oh boy
>>8996349
I thought this was general knowledge.
I also saw traces of tonio kroger (Mann 1903) in those opening lines but I don't know if Eliot read that story or not.
I'm about to wrap up my first novel and it's not an especially pleasant book to read.
Should I ask my family and loved ones to read it? And, if they ask me, should I let them read it?
I am very, very afraid of their reactions. It's a dark, unkind book about abuse and tragedy. It's not the sort of thing any of them would ever read on their own, yet they all insist that they'll love it simply because I wrote it.
I'm torn, /lit/.
>>8996321
Go for it. Take a chance live a little.
>family
No. Nothing good can come of it. There is literally no answer which can help you in any way.
So no.
Instead, go to Evil Editor's blog and look at what he does. Then, write a query letter and send it to the blog. Take the feedback.
Meanwhile, post a fair use excerpt on AgentQueryConnect. They'll tell you the truth.
>>8996381
I'm not talking about letting them read it for tips or notes. Let's say I get it published or decide to print up some copies myself. The book contains child molestation and shitting and transvestites and retards eating dog pop and rampant alcoholism and castration. It's not the sort of thing you want your grandmother knowing is going on inside your head, you know?
Is Ahab autistic?
No... why would you come to that conclusion?
He's a warm, family man who had his hand forced by the unforgiving economic and social climate of his time.
What's autistic about him? Have you even read the book? Or are you just reacting the literary tropes about his character, that he was driven mad by revenge?
>>8996290
no, but herman melville was
>>8996296
>muh moby dick has to pay for what he has done
But hes just an animal blindly following his instincts
>REEEEEEEEEEE
ITT: books that made you cry
One of the best final pages I've ever read.
i can't remember the last time i cried. kill me now. i'm already dead inside
>>8996264
Don't understand the love for this book
For me main one is probably Les amities particulieres when I was a young teen, don't shoot me
>>8996264
You know in movies, where the main character is holding his dying buddy in his arms, and crying, and then he makes a dumb comment, and the hero laughs, even though he's still crying?
That kind of crying.
post rare joyces itt
with mumma and puppa joyce
what a dapper man
who /slowandsteady/ here?
i just read a chapter or two a day
just go at your own pace, mate; it's not a race! :)
>>8996357
a couple weeks ago i started reading at like 10 pages a day and now im doing about 150. At this rate I will soon be able to read all the world
>>8996375
one day you'll make us all proud
(you know the bit I mean)
>>8996110
It was dancing, dancing.
>>8996130
+ rape