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What is the most degenerate piece of literature (pre-modern) ever written?
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>>9000123
MDD
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>>9000123
My Diary, Desu.
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>>9000127
>>9000129
Lads, be serious.

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Hljóðs bið ek allar
helgar kindir,
meiri ok minni
mögu Heimdallar...
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stop speaking spanish you dirty mexican
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is this burzum?
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>>9000412
Yeah it's Varg

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>To challenge my students to think about the ethics of what we owe to people in need, I ask them to imagine that their route to the university takes them past a shallow pond. One morning, I say to them, you notice a child has fallen in and appears to be drowning. To wade in and pull the child out would be easy but it will mean that you get your clothes wet and muddy, and by the time you go home and change you will have missed your first class.

>I then ask the students: do you have any obligation to rescue the child? Unanimously, the students say they do. The importance of saving a child so far outweighs the cost of getting one’s clothes muddy and missing a class, that they refuse to consider it any kind of excuse for not saving the child. Does it make a difference, I ask, that there are other people walking past the pond who would equally be able to rescue the child but are not doing so? No, the students reply, the fact that others are not doing what they ought to do is no reason why I should not do what I ought to do.

>Once we are all clear about our obligations to rescue the drowning child in front of us, I ask: would it make any difference if the child were far away, in another country perhaps, but similarly in danger of death, and equally within your means to save, at no great cost – and absolutely no danger – to yourself? Virtually all agree that distance and nationality make no moral difference to the situation. I then point out that we are all in that situation of the person passing the shallow pond: we can all save lives of people, both children and adults, who would otherwise die, and we can do so at a very small cost to us: the cost of a new CD, a shirt or a night out at a restaurant or concert, can mean the difference between life and death to more than one person somewhere in the world – and overseas aid agencies like Oxfam overcome the problem of acting at a distance.

How is he wrong, /lit/?
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>>9000004
He's not. You're just an asshole. And that's exactely what you need to hear.
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>>9000004
>assumes life has inherent value and/or assumes quality of life for a 3rd world child is comparable to that of a 1st world child
>assumes that this "life-saving" would extend the life of the child beyond a few days (most of this stuff is food aid, so it needs to be constantly renewed)
>assumes overpopulation isn't already a problem to consider in many such cases
>assumes an individual can place complete trust in a charity organization

If you wanna hop on the Nietzche/Stirner edge train, we can also say that this is just the slave morality/a spook at work, but I like the idea of saving the puddle kid. When we look at donating to faraway lands, however, more unknowns become introduced, so the impact of your action is significantly less, and also harder to know.
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>"Virtually all agree that distance and nationality make no moral difference to the situation"

Screw nationality, let's talk about that physical and perceptual distance. Singer likes to pretend there's no difference between an immediate crisis in front of your eyes that you can stop through personal direct action and giving to possibly help abstract people round the world. The first is a situation that can be encompassed and dealt with. The second is, if taken to extremes, absurd, because it implies that you have a moral obligation to dedicate your life and all your resources to (potentially) everyone else alive. Perhaps you do, in some sense, but proximity is a factor and a very important one. The best human practice is to deal with your immediate family and friends, and community, first. It's logical for many reasons: your role in that community, your understanding of it, and the social contract that you benefit from. Help given to foreign countries often goes astray because of mismanagement, corruption, ignorance, etc. That's not a reason not to donate or be charitable, but saving the life of a child in front of you is more than a simple act of charity: it's an instinctive and sensible action that contributes to the health of your own community on some level.

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Show me your writing instruments, /lit/.
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>writing by hand like a peasant
see ya in the 21st century bub
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>not using a voice recorder
>not using a smartphone
>not using a tablet
>not using a laptop
>not using a pee see
>two thousand seventeen
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>>8999786
>>8999790
There's no way you don't need a pen at work or school.

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>tfw you will never be a Chum of Chance

Why live?
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– Tu crois que c'est foutu?

– Bien entendu. C'est foutu depuis longtemps, depuis l'origine. Tu ne représenteras jamais, Raphaël, un rêve érotique de jeune fille. Il faut en prendre ton parti; de telles choses ne sont pas pour toi. De toute façon, il est déjà trop tard. L'insuccès sexuel, Raphaël, que tu as connu depuis ton adolescence, la frustration qui te poursuit depuis l'âge de treize ans laisseront en toi une trace ineffaçable. À supposer même que tu puisses dorénavant avoir des femmes – ce que, très franchement, je ne crois pas – cela ne suffira pas; plus rien ne suffira jamais. Tu resteras toujours orphelin de ces amours adolescentes que tu n'as pas connues. En toi, la blessure est déjà douloureuse; elle le deviendra de plus en plus. Une amertume atroce, sans rémission, finira par emplir ton cœur. Il n'y aura pour toi ni rédemption, ni délivrance. C'est ainsi.
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A little more than halfway through this now. Loving it. It might end up being my favorite Pynchon, if it continues to be this good.
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>>8999812
So powerful when Reef gets his father down from that adobe pillar. :'(

Just picked up pic related. Only other book I've read from Dosto was The Gambler and a few short stories. What am I in for, lads?
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babbys first Dostoevsky book
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>>8999617
Read it and find out in a couple hours. Then come back and we can talk about it.
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Be careful. You might just find yourself having a problem with nihilism afterwards.

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MISSION SUCCESS. One month later and we have actually complete a read-through!

All spoilers allowed in this thread. Discuss the ending, discuss how you felt about the book as a whole.

>Previoius thread
>>8990098
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Please fill out this poll so we can see how we did

http://www.strawpoll.me/12153391
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Well I didn't participate in the read-through but I read the book last year and the ending was immensely satisfying.
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Wait and hope lads. Wait and hope.

>Get phone call from my daughter's school yesterday
>They told me she was screaming in the library and no one could get her to calm down
>She also wet her pants, they said
>Had to take an early day to take her home
>She told me she wants a night light
>I ask her what made her so scared
>She told me she read a book at the school library with really really really scary drawings in it
>I instantly realized what book she was talking about

Well. My kids' scarred for life over this book, just like I was. I can't be myself in the dark without thinking about some of the illustrations from this book being right behind me, and I guess my daughter will be the same way. Why the fuck is this book in schools for third graders, honestly.
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>>8999548
Just be happy she can really feel something.
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Why isn't there an age rating guidline system for books like their are for movies (MPAA) or video games (ESRB)?
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>>8999560
goddammit. I wish /pol/ would just fuck off already.

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I have just begun reading the Bible. I was not raised Christian, so I'm approaching it with an open mind. I am reading the King James version. Anything I should know or keep in mind as I read?

Bible general I guess.
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Bear in mind that it was translated by one of the faggiest people to walk this gay Earth
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WTF is the Holy Spirit?
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Read a study bible, seriously.

You're not going to get most of it if you don't.

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I love reading, but I can't read for more than an hour

I have to break my reading into small sections, is very annoying. I get tired from reading, but I don't lose concentration
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>>8999522
Thank you for sharing, dear.
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>>8999522
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Did you just start reading a lot recently? When I started reading more than just what was assigned me for school I would get headaches and had a hard time falling asleep.

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Who wants to discuss the book that ended Philosophy?
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No takers?
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I don't get this gimmick. Why do you post this or a similar thread every day? It's not like people freak out about it. It's just sort of.. there.
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>>8999631
Simply trying to inform the masses of this forgotten masterpiece or as I like to call it, 'The Proof of the Existence of God and Other Such Things'.

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Can someone please explain this to me? Am I retarded for not understanding it?
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>>8999408
Gotta be able to identify with that beat generation, friendo.
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Power unrestrained will lead to anarchy.

But it's mostly unintelligible, shock value garbage
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>>8999408
It's basically a surrealist work. You can only read so much Burroughs before it gets boring.

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Why does Knut Hamsun never get discussed here?
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>never get discussed
has his own thread already... sage
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> tfw when you knut but your books keep suckin
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Why does Witold Gombrowicz never get discussed here?

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i liked it desu ( .__.)

its a good book for young men
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>>8999287
<ever reading YA
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>>8999287
They literally made us read this in the 4th grade, I loved it.

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I want to start writing horror and I'm looking for recommended writers of the genre. I've nearly finished the Complete Fiction of Lovecraft and then I'll be moving on to Edgar Allan Poe and Bram Stoker, as well as reading short stories by other writers. What other greats of the genre should I read to get an idea of structure, pacing, and atmosphere?
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Good places to start.

Try reading some Stephen King if you haven't already. His prose can be pretty awful and he is pretty much the McDonald's of authors, but he can really come up some disturbing monsters and imagery and does a good job of saturating a setting with tension. At least read IT, maybe Rose Madder and Salem's Lot.

For a more experimental approach, try House of Leaves, might teach you to think around corners.

I dunno if I'd call it horror but Lord of the Flies is an interesting look at humans as monsters (even children).
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>>8999329
Stephen King is one I've been wary on picking up. I do admire his ability to just write and keep on writing no matter what, even if his prose is severely lacking. I own a copy of his book Cell but I never got past the half way point. I'll definitely pick up IT at some point though.

House of Leaves looks really interesting, I'll definitely read it at some point, the layout of the pages alone has got me interested.

I've never read Lord of the Flies, something that is to my shame, even though I'm always recommended it. I'll end up reading anyway seeing as its regarded as a staple of English literature.
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There is a Japanese author named Otsuichi who writes interesting horror stories. In particular his works compiled in "Goth" and "Summer, Fireworks and My Corpse" are good. He has a short story collection called "Zoo" which also has a bunch of good reads.

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