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>>9039062
>scepticism and socialism
Wut. Sounds like he's coming at it from a very particular angle.

>>9039079
No, he explains the whole movement and the history leading up to it, including philosophers that influenced the movement and the specific reactions to modernism, and the arguments made by post modernists. I literally thought the book was making shit up when it talked about putting the speed of light at an unfair advantage against other speeds by making it the fastest speed, or something like that.

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Postmodernist argument the book uses as an example. I literally am incredulous to believe the author of this book didn't just make this shit up about postmodernism.

>>9039033
bump

>>9039033
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>>9039033
Read all of them, they're good books. I think there's an order to the series so you may as well follow that

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>>9039028

The old man and the sea.

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Conrad loved his boats

>>9039025
I think you are already lost due to susceptibility to spooks and ideology. KYS

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>>9039040
nice'un

>>9039025
I did an essay on Virginia Woolf's Mrs Dalloway. It's fucking shit

>>9039004
Her book is very good, now buzz off. I would say better than anything yall could write, but I think "tundra" is maybe potentially "better", but the reason it would not get acclaim is there is likely 'more excess crap than rupis poetry', the equivalent of 20s and 20s of pages of n words and penis scrawlings.

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>>9040561

>>9040561
you must have known
you were wrong
when your fingers
were dipped inside of me
searching for honey that
would not come for you

-Rupi 'palpable genius' Kaur

I sure am said that I can't write 6 lines of cheap double entendres with arbitrary line breaks

>>9039003
Im starting too and I am working thru platos republic

I reckon I just work thru his major works, read what some modern authors thought of him (bertrand russell) along with some aristotle and socrates (you get it thru plato) and do some of the other greek (e.g. milesians) etc. Then onto st aquinas

>>9039019
Funnily enough Plato's republic was my immediate first choice.

For anyone else who is reading this, I am interested in philosophy, not the mythology in the /swtg/ thread

>>9039031
Yeah it's interesting. I got the penguins classic one. Dont be intimated. Have you heard the phrase that so crazy only an intellectual would believe it. A similar thing applies to classics and philosophy. The book itself is rather straightforward. The book speaks on ethics, epistemology/metaphysics (broadly; philosophy) and politics.

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
https://bibliotik.me/
irc.undernet.org #bookz #ebooks
irc.irchighway.net #ebooks

Use booko my man

>>9038920
I meant physical books but thanks for trying

>>9038924
This is perfect, thanks dude

I was bullied out of my school's Classical Anthropology Society for defending Socrates' heterosexuality.

>>9038848

Go to bed Dedalus

>>9038887
shit,
I would've missed the reference if you werent here
>thanks based attentive man

>>9038739
>and how do you become an egoist without going to jail for doing stuff that the "state" don't want you to do?

You don't get caught

>>9038761
is not getting caught really that easy?

>>9038739
As an egoist you're not a blind fanatic. Doing something that will get you arrested goes against your self interest.
Think ahead and act accordingly.

>>9038697
Normally like the third position in your picture. I don't have a special desk, though.

>>9038697
Mix it up a little.
Read while slowly walking around or place your book on a shelf and stand while reading.

When I read non-fiction I put the book next to my whiteboard and I go back and forth reading and taking notes. This also helps me better memorize what I read.

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sink down real deep into a comfy recliner, apply blanket and let hands and book rest on stomach perfectly positioned to read

First it is called a book rapper ok?
Second you throw them out after you take the rapper off the book.
Pretty fucking simple.

>>9038956
It's wrapper you stupid and gay faggot.

>>9038956
this prety much

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>>9038612

>>fat guy poet writes a poem SO EBIN it twists the fabric of time and space and allows the spiky black-and-red edgelord OC AI agent to travel back in time and usher in the apocalypse

Your greentext was kind of blogpost but now I understand why it had to be this way.

Is this is an actual part of that book I want to have a fatwa put out on the author. This injustice must be met with blood.

Lol my thoughts exactly OP. Fall of Hyperion may as well have been titled How Much I Want To Eat A Log Of Keats's Shit. It's even dedicated to him ('for John Keats, whose name is writ in eternity'), which made me immediately roll my eyes and think 'oh fuck he's really going all out.'

PS don't read Endymion. It's even worse.

I read Kite Runner in school and it was shit. Aside from that nothing really.

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PART II
The Berlin Wall falls in 1989. This unification marks the peak of the liberal idea of peace. Then come the 90’s: the end of the Cold War, the unification of the West (EU, the parody of USA) and the division of the East (the fall of communism and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia), and of course, the Internet. Great Decade. The Internet actually existed even earlier on, which is why in 1990 Godwin introduces Godwin’s law: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches 1”. This was an “experiment in memetics” rooted in “Reductio ad Hitlerum” – term coined in 1951 by Leo Strauss. Basically, it is a logical fallacy of going to the extreme just to prove the point. This happened to me once in class, we were discussing Crime and Punishment and the professor asked if any murder can be justified, to which someone yelled Hitler and she responded “Everyone always says Hitler”. Need I point out that this German Jew (Strauss) predicted 2016’s Literal Hitler.
This sounds like a parody. But it isn’t. Cause it isn’t parodying anything. Woman who yells rape when a man touches her is not parodying. She dead serious believes she’s been raped. The excess of situations like this one leads to people not believing real rape victims. The decadence is inevitable. Or it was, until there came a man who is also the parody and the real deal. And what does he do? He sticks the knife right into the hearts of peace-loving left. He is not a fool that blindly believes in peace while a war is raging. He does not believe in the unification of the whole world, like the liberal Europe. The wall on the Mexican border is symbolic of that – he is rebuilding the ruins of 1989. But I’ve mentioned that he is a parody. Since a parody is what overthrows, he cannot be overthrown. That’s why he won. And he became a parody consciously, by using the internet and becoming a meme. He is the rich old white man of capitalism, but also a parody of the rich old white men. He is the president but not a politician. He is the elite but anti-establishment. He is serious but ridiculous. He is the inaccessible archetype but also a real man. Like, real-real. 21st Century real. Twitter@real. And this ultimate meme-guy is now the leader of the free world. To me, this really represents where we’re at as a society today. The internet made it impossible to be controlled by the press, by the politicians, by the celebrities. The only thing that is now in control is the internet itself. It’s rather ironic. Just look at youtube. Various youtube chanels are parodying other youtubers, by being youtubers themselves. Look at Boxxy or Poppy that girl that pretended to keep a video journal of her life but is really an actress. This cannot be overcome, unless there be something outside youtube that parodies youtube.

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PART II
The word meme comes form Plato’s theory of Mimesis. He says, through Socrates, that our world is a mimesis, an imitation of the ultimate reality. Remember, this is the same guy that walks through town just to bother people. The same way an internet troll goes online to bother people. Now, Socrates died for what he did. He didn’t have to die, but he did. But Socratic irony lives up to this day as the bait-weapon for internet trolls. Trolling first happened on forums, which is a word borrowed from the antiquity also, the Greek equivalent being agora. That was the place where the people got together to preach ideas to each other. This tradition didn’t survive, but it was reborn online. The internet is the place of anonimity (hey anons), a place where everyone can be what they can’t be in real life (hey /pol/ and /b/ and social networks profiles and loverboy21), virtual reality that is for some people more real than real reality.
The irony of this situation is that we live in a culture that is in itself a counter-culture. It is truly a post-ironic new sincerity world, a bump on the head of the subversive irony of post-modernist progressives.
What do you make of all of this? Do you agree or disagree? And what impact will it have on literature? I’ve noticed in the last 30 years that a lot of liberal multi-culturalism promoting writers have been getting literary awards. Not that awards mean anything because time will show value, but if they stop promoting this multi-cultural agenda, it must have an impact on the current state of literature. I think the things are changing, I think they started changing, actually I think I even know the exact date they started changing: when Houellebecq published Submissions – 7th of January 2015, the date of Charlie Hebdo shooting. That was the date political correctness was doomed. I think we are witnessing a rebirth.

It would help if you could summarise your primary thesis in 100 words or less, with perhaps an extra 50 words for any sub-theses. As it is, if there is a relationship between irony signalling the decay of culture and the collapse of the left / rise of the right, you've not made this link clear at all.

Ecclesiastes.

>>9038369
The Bible story about Joseph and the coat of many colors was comfy as fuck.
it actually reminded me of a sort of Don Quixote/The Idiot sort of feel. I definitely held back a tear when he finally tells his brothers it's him and he wants to see his father again

>>9038369
John's Gospel.

>>9038354

The existence of the speech from self to self is the sign of a cut . . .The circle turns in order to annul the cut, and therefore, by the same token, unwittingly signifies it. The snake bites its tail, from which above all it does not follow that it finally rejoins itself without harm in this successful auto-fellatio of which we have been speaking all along, in truth.

>>9038354
i love knee chi

>>9038444
Well I guess it's good that you actually know how to pronounce the man's name