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"Though is the thought of thought"
Your thoughts?
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John Green is a hack.
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>>9065960
you Mr. T
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>>9065960
“Consciousness is consciousness of something. This means that transcendence is the constitutive structure of consciousness; that is that consciousness emerges supported by a being which is not itself.” - Sartre

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It's about to become my main board.
Just finished reading The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra and i am very impressed.
Also, the shitpost to helpful comment ratio is probably the best one on this board.

I just wanted to let you know.
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It used to be better, but anyways it's the only board worth visiting at all tbqh.
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>>9065931
Yes it's pretty good. Everyone is so friendly without being cringe. Basically friendly but keeping it 4chan.
I hope this makes sense.
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>>9065927
Youre an idiot for thinking this needs a public declaration and retards like you are why this board is dead.

What does /lit/ think about this manifesto? Does it present it's ideas well?

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yd_6E2L9zkRddkEZDXUdSKyeV5J2MA4Uu_nSCkcPAic/mobilebasic
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>>9065817
I think the fact that /pol/ lionizes Sam Harris, but has none of his intelligence or empathy is a tragedy.

I think any manifesto or rigid codification of thoughts is 200 years out of date, and that any individual of note should form his own opinions based on current data at any time.

After a brief read, I would say that manifesto deserves a delete, and that you should go read some Stendahl or perhaps late Junger.
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>>9065817
Cringey as fuck
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>>9065817

all political work since industrialization has been the masses wimpering despair preceding their accelerating spiral into existence as the meaty Legos of the techno elite

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Hi, /lit/! I want to get into Star Wars books. What is the best Star Wars book for me to start with?
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>>9065500
Sorry, this is a literature board.
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>>9065500
The New Jedi Order series
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>>9065500
I posted this recently, got shit on for daring to want to read them. I began with Darth Maul Shadow Hunter. It was pretty boring to be honest. Perhaps lit was right.

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Who is the Tarkovsky of literature?
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>>9065228
A mix of László Krasznahorkai and Dostoevsky. I've never been able to find a fully satisfying answer, though, so read my novels in 20 years for the Tarkovsky of literature.
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>>9065234
Krasznahorkai is obviously the Tarr of lit and Tarkovsky isn't melancholic in my opinion.
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>>9065228
Hemmingway

To all you Heidegger scholars out there, a question if i may: Does Heidegger predict the singularity, albeit in a side glancing way?


Let me explain. In his essay, the question concerning technology, H. takes Aristotle's 4 causes and stitches them together holistically, so as to create a web of 4 causes rather than a linear or simplistic process. Heidy argues that the primal meaning of causality is lost on modern philosophy because that fuck Descartes had no patience for the causa finalis(telos)). While the “causa efficiens” (the human agent that makes the object) which in Aristotle's 4 causes is just a simple cog, Heidy thinks this creator transcends the 4 causes. He thus keeps the 4 causes but draws attention to the extra special role this “causa efficiens” (human as being-there). The 4 causes are sorta renamed the “4 occasionings” which he feels is a more metaphysically honest way of framing cause and effect. The 4 occasionings are collectively responsible for the bringing forth of “things” (objects, in this case technological objects).


The artist or craftsman in getting the 3 casual ducks in order provides a path for non-presence to arrive at presence. The craftsman coaxes matter and form and final causes (the other three causes or occasionings) into being. He sets free “things” and induces them to go forward. H. really uses these terms, at least in the english translation.


Heidy posits that nature is the ultimate artist, but the human creator is of a different sort, because the craftsman (it’s not stated but we are dealing with man as Dasein here) stands outside of this cause and effect relationship.


But what if Heidegger conceived of man as fully within the cause and effect of nature, free-will and agency be damned. H. could then suggest that when man makes a machine, it is actually a creation of nature (Think of the human race as a presence that was not present aprox. 200,000 yrs ago) creating/ bringing forth/cajoling into existence tecnology. A technology that in a few hundreds years will continue to be drawn out of inexistence by us crafty naked apes and could conceivably culminate in AI (and run away AI after that ushering in the singularity).


The implications of this are tremendous. I can feel it occasioning in my loins. So please, tell me why I’ve horribly misread Heidy and that we actually aren't living in a simulation.
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>>9065147
AI is a meme man

will never happen
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If you're interested in Heidegger's view on technology, read his correspondence with Ernst Junger who himself was influenced by his brother (forget the name of his book now)
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>>9065147
>3 casual ducks
quack ?

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Are there any great thinkers alive today? Chomsky seems like a figure most people agree on. Zizek has potential imo but to some people his persona gets in the way of taking him seriously. Is Peterson a legitimate thinker or just a meme?
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>>9065108
Peterson, Milo, Trump, Molyneux, Harris
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>>9065108
Peterson is a meme, no philosopher take him seriously and his stances have been stated and examined countless times by smarter people. He's no Chomsky.
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>>9065108
Putnam, Habermas, Kripke, MacIntyre, maybe even Searle and Chalmers.

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Sup /lit/

Looking for recommendations on the best Noir Detective/PI novels/short stories.

Bonus points for Female MC.
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Dashiell Hammett's 1930 novel, The Maltese Falcon.
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The Travis McGee series by John D. MacDonald is my fave.
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>>9065031
>Bonus points for Female MC
Laura by Vera Caspary.

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How the fuck do you guys organize your bookcases?
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>>9064933
I like to align the books vertically, spine out
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>>9064933
I don't use a bookcase, I just leave my books lying around. My mom hates it.
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>>9064933
A case for fiction, a case for non fiction then organise them loosely by favouritism. Who gives a fuck how they're organised, really.

Why is there no good literature from here? Besides Cervantes.
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Camilo Jose Cela hehe
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Sergio Ramos
"How did I score moar goals than Benzema being just a defender"
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>>9064630
¿Qué es el siglo de oro?
¿Qué es la generación del 98?
¿Qué es la generación del 27?

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What is the best language to learn from a literary point of view? A language that has fantastic literature that has not, or can not be translated into English.

Latin, Greek, mandarin, I'm up for anything. Keep in mind that my native language (in which my proficiency is worse than in English) uses the nastalikh script: the script in which Farsi and Arabic are written. So those would be slightly easier to learn. (I speak Urdu)
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Everything is translated into English

Latin
French
Russian
German
Japanese
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>>9064062
True. But a lot is left out when translated.
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>>9064037
german or french

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What makes this book so revered?
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>>9063556
It's French and it's a book about cucking. What more could you ask for?
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Nabokov said it heightened the artistic merit of prose to poetry
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>>9063562
There's better books about cucking though. Like Anna Karenina or 90% of the side stories in Don Quixote.

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What's his endgame?
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Seems to be a pretty blatant pedophile masquerading as an academic examining such interests. I've felt this way for years now and would like for someone to prove me wrong.
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>>9063461
same. I guess I'm not "subversive" enough, but it just seems like garbage for power electronics fans to jerk off to.
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>>9063451
i listened to Buyer's Market out of morbid curiosity and it fucked me up for a good week

In a sense he's obviously fucked up, but i find it hypocritical that he gets the blame for what he does, in the end he is just "exposing" monsters, but he does it with a total lack of empathy which makes everything even more disturbing

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Which German philosopher is the best?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12272878
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STOINER STIRNER SOIRNRE SOTNER NSOETR SIRTNER STIRNR STRINERT STIREN TSRINE STRINE SIUTENR SIRYEN TSIRNET SIURNER
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>>9062883
Hitler
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Kaspar Hauser
/thread

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My friend just sent me a 2.5 hour lecture by this dude saying:
>you should check out this series of lectures. This man has opened up my eyes to the reality of being human more than anyone else I've come across.

I'm a busy guy. Is this man worth listening to?
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umm... no. that f*cking shitlord made a video about pepe the white power frog.
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>>9062807
He is a passionate man who not only seeks truth, He also spouts it.
Even if you disagree with him, you can tell he is a lover of knowledge and truth.
YES, he's worth a listen.
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>>9062807
He's okay, I guess. I enjoy his lectures, but I wouldn't put him on a pedestal. A lot of people seem to deify him only because he's anti-SJW. Give one lecture a try. If it sounds too much like pretentious bullshit, just drop it. Or, you know, think for yourself and don't depend on lit to develop your opinion.

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