ok...literally what the actual fuck was his problem?
>>9135825
>his
Lermontov's? Pechorin's?
It was a problem for him, that there was no entirely problem at all.
>>9135850
Pechorin
Do you ever use semicolons? How the fuck do they work?
>>9135792
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semicolon#Usage
Literally just taught a remedial English class how to properly use semi-colons. It really isn't hard. Check the first part of this site:
https://owl.english.purdue.edu/engagement/2/1/44/
I have no idea how they work but I use them all the time and nobody tells me I'm doing it wrong.
Doesn't seem like there is one up right now so I'm kicking things off with the long awaited (or maybe not) 2017 release of the Carlton Mellick III collection
Genre: Bizarro fiction
Download:
a.pomf.cat/zymxfh.zip
Preview: pic related
Format: Calibre library of AZW for Kindle (convert your own shit)
/lit/ exclusive for a couple of days
more info in readme
>>9135731
What is this bullshit? Do a proper sharethread where you share some at least passable works of literature instead of this ghastly rigmarole (sorry, just back from the Nabokov vs. Dostoyevsky thread). Take this free bump as a second chance for your thread.
>>9137789
>>9135731
Thanks but is anything of his interesting? What I did sample wasn't so very good, though I did not read much because, as mentioned, what I did read was terrible. Is anything he's written not utter shit, is what I'm asking.
>I think in the gay world, some of the most important, enriching and incredibly life affirming, important shaping relationships very often between younger boys and older men, they can be hugely positive experiences for those young boys
- Milo Yiannopolous
>...such a great affection of an elder for a younger man.... There is nothing unnatural about it. It is intellectual, and it repeatedly exists between an elder and a younger man, when the elder man has intellect, and the younger man has all the joy, hope and glamour of life before him.
- Oscar Wilde
>[Oscar] Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued. […] My joy was unbounded, and I cannot imagine it greater, even if love had been added.
- Andre Gide
>Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance… I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too—everybody does, who has a little humanity
- Allen Ginsberg
>Pederasty is as old as humanity itself, and one can therefore say that it is natural, that it resides in nature, even if it proceeds against nature. What culture has won from nature will not be surrendered or given up at any price
- Goethe
>>9135459
why did you post this
>another Milo controversy shilling thread
And almost everyone before 1968 was a rabid racist.
But don't tell anyone that today. Hegel would've been cool with a 20% muslim minority in his beloved German lands.
Why this dumbass generation hasn't called for the ban of most authors before WWII is beyond me. It's so easy for them to find quotes that would trigger the fuck out of them and show it belongs to a cultural hero of the West... which makes it PROBLEMATIC to print them still.
Worthy of the praise or all hype?
I thought it was a surprisingly fun read.
It's pretty heavy handed and stupid.
Houellebecq is the Lars Von Trier of literature. A vapid opportunist that enjoys pissing off European liberals. Every once in a while he may produce something of value but most of the time it's not worth serious study or consideration.
Why would you ever spend your time on trash like this when actual classics sit on your shelves unread?
>>9135217
Pretty good. One of the best modern explications of the long-term societal effects of secular-humanism.
>>9135217
Not unbelievable. It's definitely one way we could be headed. People just accept what is happening a little bit at a time and before they know it, it is over. It's a warning.
>too much dialogue
>too quick-paced
>not enough imagery
>just trying to make this scene happen so I can move onto the next one
What problems do you run into when you write?
>>9134578
>Too epic
>Too good, I am just so impressed and bewildered at my staggering genius I continually have to wipe tears from my eyes, and fret them naught to hit mine leaflet
>having to use a thesaurus... to dumb down my language
>deciding which of my 7 magnum opui, I feel like working on first in the morning, which is only a problem on the rare nights when I do not write about 30 pages in my dream, which I then photographically recite into my alarm clock/tape recorder upon awakening
>>9134578
>not enough chit chat
>plods along for eternity
>vast paintings
>the entire story is one or two scenes
>>9134578
>this would work in another language
>wibble wobbling TIE fighters make me overestimate myself
How does /lit/ feel about this?
>>9133882
was it because he's a pedo?
>>9133882
good
>>9133884
Ye, I think so.
Hey /lit/, I just finished The Old Man And The Sea, and I loved it.
I know that you'll probably say to dig into some more Hemingway, but I was curious about other stories about fishing and the sea/ocean.
My dad is a fisherman (sort of) and I've been fishing with him before so this book sort of resonated with me on a personal level, and I'm interested in more like it.
But no fantasy/sci-fi shit please, I want stuff that is based in reality.
>>9133075
The Sea Wiolf - Jack London. One of my all time favs. Not so much about fishing, but about the sea.
also, Moby Dick - Melville.
A River Runs Through It if freshwater fishing is fine.
>>9133075
Joseph Conrad obviously. He wrote a number of sea themed novel, and unlike hacks normally writing these things, he in fact was experienced sailor. Just don't start with Nostromo. It's immensely complex and difficult read.
Any books on how to train oneself not to look at every attractive woman?
I used to know of a simple technique, can't remember the name, where lack of exposure nullified responses or desires.
I can do this to an extent but I forget too often.
(And before some retard claims I need to get laid or I'm a virgin)
once you read Georges Bernanos "Sous le soleil de Satan", you will never look at ANY 16 year old girl. You will be scared.
>>9132822
Yeah it's this little thing called self control
What prerequisite readings (specific literature) are needed to appreciate all the allusions in The Divine Comedy?
>>9132589
>le '19 year old loser who thinks reading The Divine Comedy will make him a sophisticated, deep, and cultured' man
You'll still be ugly
All wikipedia articles on greek mythology, Illyad, Odysey, Aeneid, the bible....
The Greeks, especially Aristotle.
>>9132595
>all this projecting
Honest Opinions Time, /lit/
At what point is a book "a good book" or even "literature?"
Is it the prose? The story? The philosophical subtext?
If we compare writing as an art form to say, painting, then why is writing and literature always so rigidly criticized?
Comparing Peter Paul Rubens to Gustav Klimt to Berlitz to Rothko...
Isn't simplicity in prose also valid if it's done well?
Technical ability in most art forms is only a part of it and in some cases, not even a requirement at all.
So why is literature so antiquated? Is it because it's the "most intellectual" artform? Is it because it's the only artform actually put down in words? Describing a painting or a song, or why it's good is difficult, but with writing, the words are already there, and easy to compare to other words written down, or gives the illusion of being easier to compare.
How much does /lit/ mean what they say in regards to what they consider "worthwhile" and how much is just posturing?
>>9131625
Literature also has different aims than the typical book. Think of the difference between design and art. Both can be pretty and interesting but design stops short of deeper meaning and truth.
i want to fuck that painting
>>9131667
>Both can be pretty and interesting but design stops short of deeper meaning and truth.
But design is, by definition, useful. Design must have a practical application for it to be considered design. Sometimes that's the only difference. And in a lot of circles, designers are considered artists. For example, you have Eileen Gray. A designer at the turn of the century (1900s) who is still considered a huge figure in her field today.
Good designers fulfill the same requirements as artists, with the additional requirement that what they create has to be useable.
So really, if you're comparing a sort of intellectual application and a practical application, then that doesn't really devalue the typical book.
I'll add that I'm talking about a certain standard of the medium, of course.
Can anyone recommend literature, poetry, or philosophy on the philosophical nature of true friendship? I've always wanted to read a really deep, nuanced philosophical anthropology type dealie of friendship, platonic love, that kind of thing.
I'm drunk as fuck and my life is an imploding shitheap of constant pain. I love this fucking board. I love that you guys all genuinely care about literature and philosophy. Even the oneupmanship here is at least motivated by a sincere desire to improve and understand. All the shitposters are unusually clever and funny, everyone is subtly well-meaning beneath all the vitriol. This is the best board. If you browse /lit/ you're a cool guy and I'd give you a big not gay hug. I appreciate everyone with asperger's syndrome and I'd be your fucking friend even if you're a weird guy. Everyone deserves a friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBhxfltn50E
Also hey Girardfag, you're a cool dude.
I like you too. You should become a teetotaler like me though, or at least not drink excessively. I genuinely worry about people who drink a lot.
I am posting just because girardposter apparently is watching this thread.
Admit it . She is a dumb, STUPID person.
i dont know who it is but i bet you havent read les mis
>>9130635
Why women love victorian litt?
>>9130635
no, op, actually you are
Have any of you emailed Chomsky, if so post a screenshot of the results.
>>9126119
no but I did Email Cioran
>>9126119
Emailing a communist....
Lol no thanks
>>9126119
>told him about /lit/
"I tried to look at that page but saw only inane comments."
:(
Books that made you say:
"Why the fuck do people like this?"
>>9124571
I'm sorry you don't have a sense of humor.
>>9124579
>>>/r/eddit
>>9124579
This post gave me cancer. I hope you have good liability insurance.