Everyone should read books and write alongside them a fully fledged summary with relevant citations, ideas, interpretations, criticisms etc and integrate them into a new/existing Wikipedia article so they never have to read the book again and neither do future generations.
Try to prove me wrong. Just try.fictionfags need not apply
>what is different interpretations
>>9143700
Literally in the OP
>>9143694
let's assume for a second the author knew what he was doing (correctly) when he wrote the book. Why would I want to sit and read other peoples ideas about what he (the author) meant?
How much is too much for a book?
Could you trust yourself with a $700 book? Would you even read it?
>>9143665
i dunno man, seems silly. i mean, as an art piece, seems like a fine thing to have, an expensive book, but don't you need climate control and stuff, basically restricting you from displaying it?
$700 is not a lot of money, anon
are you underage or is this a bait thread?
>>9143682
>$700 is not a lot of money
Kek, what are you? A sheik's son? Yeah, I mean, it's no A LOT, but having such blatant disregard for almost $700 means you are a rich entitled piece of shit, or you've literally not earned a cent in your life.
Pick which one you want to be.
>be Nietzsche
>contract STD
>be bummed out
>read 'The Stranger' by Camus
>"you must imagine Syphilis happy"
what on earth was Camus on about?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Phahahahahahshaha
This could be a funny joke if you worked into a way where it made sense, anon.
What are some nice Occult books that aren't considered fiction? Anything from grimiores, demonology, rituals, spells, etc.
>>9143521
There are two or three versions of the "key of solomon", "the lesser key of solomon", etc, which are availbe from Weiser. They all revolve around the same basic idea of summoning demons, controlling them, and then banishing them when you're done with them. One of these is actually prepared in a halfway serious scholarly fashion by an editor.
The actual stuff is very dry, though. By the simple fact that it's not "fiction" in the sense of being a prose narrative, but instead like a textbook. That's what a grimoire /is/: a technical textbook that actually purports to teach you magic of some kind: "this is magic. Here is how you do it, here is how you do NOT do it, etc."
Texts like these eventually inspired some flimf-flam man to write the NECRONOMICON, or "Simonomicon", which is commonly available in B&Ns (and which has nothing to do with Lovecraft himself, despite cribbing the name of his own fictional book). This is a cheap paperback which purports to be an old babylonian text, and the layout basically gives the novice an idea of what a grimoire is actually like, albeit as a hoax/ruse. It's actually kind of fun to read, though, as whoever actually wrote it is careful to give the text some recurring entities/characters and set up a sort of plot/cosmology of the universe. In this sense, the book is much more like a conventional prose fictional narrative, because it was spiced up as-such when written.
Of course one can still banish occult stuff under the larger rubric of "made up bullshit", but I get that you're just looking for texts that don't "work" quite the same way as conventional fiction.
>>9143569
That's basically what I'm asking for, the first part. I'm looking for more or less historical works from people who actually believe what they're writing, or it was written long enough ago that everyone believed it.
>>9143521
probably the one where it says to become immortal you sew your heart into a white goose, place it into a barrel and bury it under an ash tree. i can't fucking find it.
I have a question pertaining Kant's transcendental philosophy. This question can be applied to both the pure intuitions of space an time and the categories of pure understanding, but I will articulate my doubt dealing only with the pure intuitions of space and time (for the sake of simplicity).
Now, for Kant, space and time are not properties of the world, according to him, our cognitive apparatus applies the spatial/temporal structure to the world. The reason for this is that we cannot derive space and time from our experience of the world, since we need space and time to even be able experience the world. Space and time are the necessary conditions for sensibility.
So, to say again, why we can't derive space and time from experience? Because we need them to even be able to experience. Now my question is: why Kant infers from this that is our cognitive apparatus aplying space and time to the world? Why does he exclude the possibility that the world has this spatial and temporal structure and for that reason we're able to experience it? Certainly from the fact that space and time are necessary conditions for sensibility we cannot infer that the world doesn't have a spatial/temporal structure. So why Kant infers from that that we are the ones applying space and time to the world?
Thanks your attention.
>>9143471
Thanks for your attention*
Just read the Prolegomena, dude; it's short. If you're scared by the language being, perhaps, at all, difficult, check out this site for a modernized, less "Kanty" translation: http://www.earlymoderntexts.com/authors/kant
Best regards, and fuck your mom,
Elephant Steve
>>9143471
Kant does not argue that space and time must be forms of sensibility in order to have experience. He just gives several arguments showing that they cannot be derived from experience and are not concepts.
ITT post what you're currently reading and what you're going to be reading after
Currently :
Apollonius - On Conics
Irving Fisher - Mathematical Investigations in the Theory of Value and Prices
Henry George - Progress and Poverty
Next:
Nicomachus - Introduction to Arithmetic
Léon Walras - Elements of Pure Economics
Rousseau - The Social Contract
Feeling pretty American and iconoclastic, soon to be French and influential.
>>9143410
you sound real spooked tbqh senpai. reading isnt about setting yourself up to do well in the imaginary debates you have with other people in your head
>>9143421
I never said it was. It's about acquiring more knowledge!
Become the übermensch!
>>9143429
hi cia/nsa
Is there any reason to study math beyond the basics if you have no real desire to learn about it and don't see yourself using it in any productive way?
Because like a thick tome, it is beautiful once you understand it.
>>9143343
literature
>>9143343
I think you just answered your own question.
Post a novel without actually posting one. Others guess the identity of that novel.
>>9143307
I don't understand what you want me to do
IJ
should I or should I not purchase a signed copy of this for $30?
>>9143270
The words in the book are the same, faggot.
Sign your suicide note
>>9143270
no one ever said this book was good
please fuck off
this is a joke, right?
i can forgive the guy for being influenced by dfw
but i didnt realize he was aping all the way down to the way he signs books
Give me some fucking writing prompts.
A love story involving crack cocaine
reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts
>>9143158
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lets see what /lit/ does without a bookself. I want random piles of books everywhere. I'll start.
Any books or writers who are /better in translation/?
James Dickey and Ken Kesey-- when translated into Film.
Lovecraft is pretty good translated.
t.Read a few of his stories in hungarian
>>9144529
His English is fucking uniquely bizarre, so having an editor with a tiny bit of skill would probably improve him in any language.
Are the Fagles translations of The Iliad and the Odyssey bad? I'm planning on tackling the greek meme soon, and I have a copy of the Fagles version of the Odyssey which I have never really read. But I've hard mixed things about Fagles, so I'm not sure if I should buy a different translation instead.
there are various advantages to all the different translations
for fagles it's readability
for lattimore it's accuracy
for pope and fitzgerald it's prose
but don't take my word for it, see what you enjoy for yourself by comparing line by line side by side.
Fagles is fine. The only time you ever need to worry about the quality of a translation is when it's so old that it's in the public domain (any cheap paperback; wordsworth and dover thrift come to mind - which doesn't necessarily mean they're bad btw, just that you have to do some research before you buy), or when it says 'Translated by Constance Garnett'
>>9142662
>prose
But its in verse anon....
You just mean style.
Does reading actually help you live a better life, make you a better person? I'm asking because so far it seems like no amount of the greeks or the romans, or pretty much anything will actually stop me being afraid of life, not being able to make decisions, and most of all, know what the fuck I'm supposed to do.
What has your experience been with this?
Start with the Greeks.
>>9142641
I already have.
>>9142637
what is something you're genuinely interested in? whenever you reach a point where you're content w/ what you're studying, study what interests you. You're probably young so that might take some time to figure out. For me it's reading about my ancestors and their way of life, and its very fulfilling. Good luck (OP).
Hey /lit/ can you recommend some drugs related books ?
I am looking for something with actual story , not trip report like books or science.
If someone is intrested in the topic I can recommend : trainspotting, trainspotting zero, scanner darkly, fear and loathing in las vegas.
They all worth checking.
Speed by William S. Burroughs Jr.
Almost Transparent Blue by Ryu Murakami might be up your alley. I didn't care too much for it but it's a pretty acclaimed work.