What's the most cyberpunk piece of lit that isn't cyberpunk?
>>9150923
Naked Lunch
>>9150962
came here to post this
Some ballard
How many ECs does a person need to have before they can be considered genius-tier? I've six so far (almost seven) and I'm only nineteen. Should I go for more or is my current amount acceptable for someone my age? Also, what books are likely to trigger further ECs? I've read Ligotti, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, all that kinda stuff, is there anything more intense than those guys (not too intense though, haha)? Which books have caused you have to an EC and what's your score at this point? Kinda feel like I should try and experience at least three or four more before summer but idk!
>>9150913
What is this EC you speak off ?
>what books are likely to trigger further ECs?
>Which books have caused you have to an EC
my diary desu
>>9150934
Existential Crisis
http://jordanbpeterson.com/2016/11/book-list/
Thoughts?
>1. Brave New World – Aldous Huxley
>2. 1984 – George Orwell
He literally starts with two high school tier books. I don't need to read the rest of his list to know he's an utter pleb.
>>9150607
He started with the best books, he's an utter patrician
>>9151416
Moby Dick is high school tier as well. Wanna tell me that it's pleb as well?
Got it and finished it today. Weeping. Gifted it to a friend I will likely never see again.
A modern masterpiece.
A question for you is it a new form of Modernism?
Hi George. How's your mother doing lately?
>>9150239
Supergood
It was good. I had fun with it, but I doubt I'll ever go back to it again. There are a few things I didn't like.
Did anyone like how it ended withthat black guy riding with Lincoln?I didn't.
I also didn't likeafter Willie proofed into firelightwhatever there was a chapter of him flying around and shit.
>want to get back into writing
>can't think of anything to write about
How does /lit/ do it?
>>9149646
I just free write. That, or use a mind map.
>>9149646
I can always think of things to write but when it comes to endings call me Mr King.
>>9149646
I also use the writing prompts on reddit to stir up my creative juices.
What am I in for?
>>9149228
sniff, snaff IDEOLOGY
>>9149228
Yeah I'm interested in this question too.
Is Zizek actually any good? Worth reading at all?
>>9149241
I'm having fun with the preface desu
Hello /lit/ what are some great books you've read on the art story structure/storytelling? I've read Joseph Campbell, and part of Yves Lavandier, and i'd like to delve deeper into the subject.
This is deffinitely optional but, idealy I was hoping to find some audiobooks of these works so I can listen to them while I work/workout.
If you liked Hero then you might like The Golden Bough. I found The Morphology of the Folk/Fairy tale by Propp interesting too.
Bear in mind it's really an academic pursuit, these things won't really help you construct better stories yourself.
This is great
This is more of a basic intro to theory but it still discusses a lot about storytelling
I don't really understand this novel, although I'm only about half way through.
Firstly why does the author dwell so much on Victor's dabbling with alchemy in his youth? Is it just meant to explain his fascination with discovering an elixir of life or is it meant to imply that he uses some magical necromancy in his method?
Secondly is it meant to be anti-materialist or anti-vitalist? My understanding is that Shelley rejected vitalism, but Frankenstein's method is obviously vitalist in nature by imparting a 'spark of life'.
>>9155082
Dont read women. Their inferior
>>9155082
Do these issues implie that the novel is disappointing ? I haven't read it already but I heard it was a little boring.
>>9155082
You're attributing rather heavy concepts to a rather straight-forward book.
I picked up Stirner so I have to ask
1.is it worth finishing? He seem to have written the book for himself or assumed some things to be universal. He is moved by his experience and wants but they do not mach mine.
2. is it so needlessly long because the publisher paid by the words and the goal of his ego was to get paid?
3. is it worth having in my collection? Does it give me lit cred?
Is our continuous not part of us and is it not often shaped by outside factors?
>>9155014
>Stirner: why hold ego to a scale of values? Whereas Nietzsche: we find abominable any decadent spirit who says: 'Everything only to me!'
He is no better than everyone he denounces before him, considering that his intellectual endeavour amounts to nothing more than a seduction. In its own little way it is a sort of immature, petulant and infantile seduction as well, one that does not have the sincere conviction behind it of past ideologies but on the other hand it has the gall to disrupt the game of rhetoric (and I mean rhetoric in the general, system-level sense that I think De Man uses) that ideologues gleefully take part in, sort of like a child who disregards the rules of a game because he is tired of losing at it or some such poor behaviour.
Stirner knows his own doctrine does not have a leg to stand on, that the whole exercise he engages in is contradictory. His whole project is a failure simply because it's a contradiction. The only way you could consider it a success is if you think the overall outcome is that you have the ability to question or attack ideology. But that is hardly a quality specific to Stirner's writings, it's simply the ability to think critically, and it's what most philosophers with a system of thought have done throughout history. Except Stirner appears to be inferior to most of them because where every other philosopher attacks the previous prevailing ideology and replaces its center in its own coherent if not infallible manner, Stirner simply attacks these ideologies with no center to prevail in replacement, the attack itself is contradictory, and there is no real insight gained into the lack of the center because Stirner himself has no answer or interest in attempting to solve this contradiction of negation. So where every other philosopher has been out with the old and in with the new, Stirner is simply out with the old, and not even in a logical manner, with no new. You're getting short-changed and fucked in the ass. And on the other hand there are numerous more in-depth attempts to address the contradictory logic of negation Stirner is using, from Zen to Deconstruction.
Assuming that he has ghostbusted the spooks is to assume a very ideologically-charged perspective about the progress of conceptual thought in the west. And it's not only that, we must also consider that language is dialogic, which means that the language, the concepts Stirner uses to poke around with in first place are all shaped and ideologically charged before he even gets to employ them, he inherits his words and thereby whatever ideology is embedded in them, so it is not even clear whether there is really a distinct Stirner-type ideology critique and not just some permutation of a prevailing ideology. His whole endeavour is shot to shit and full of presuppositions, which is why people are debating over ideology, why Stirner did not solve the problem of ideology, and why its usefulness even as a concept today is in question.
Where should I start with Adorno?
Minima Moralia no doubt
He has a double chin. I can't take him seriously if he is incapable of maintaining his own weight.
>>9154146
/thread
>reading pynchon
>dont get most of the references
>>9153939
Pynchon doesn't want you to get his references, that's part of his appeal and mystique. It's also why people criticize him
>>9153939
Ok. ok. wow. just... ok. You do realise nobody cares and you should kill yourself right?
>tfw Oxen of the Sun clicks
Seriously, how did Joyce get such an insane powerlevel? Was he able to overclock his pineal gland at will or something?
>>9153179
whatcha mean by click
>>9153185
Clicks as in suddenly understanding
>>9153185
When something makes sense
Anyone here read on psychedelics? I read that taking some psychedelics like mdma and shrooms lsd dmt etc hyperconnect your mind and let you learn things about yourself quicker. And also I read that taking Ayahuasca once can bring you to the same state of mind that comes with months of meditation.
So that made me think, if you read while on a small dose of a psychedelic substance to hyperconnect your mind, can you understand books and apply them to your life better than just reading them? Would it be easier to change your perspective if you read a book like that?
Peter Pan
it's about a little boy who never grew up
>>9153131
>advocating degeneracy
>not embracing redpilled frog living of virtue
I've heard of people having positive experiences micro-dosing lsd ...... I think there are better places on the internet to ask people about this
Publishers who are good
>praising capitalist pig dogs on a lefty board full of broke students and humanities grads
>>9152790
What's wrong with penguin classics?
Too easy, Pynchon
>>9152097
And why?
You have to go back to /mu/, you entry-level piece of shit.