What is the greatest imagined conversation between man and machine?
The conversation in your pic is one of the greatest I have experienced.
That scene is the absolute peak of Deus Ex, gameplay apart.
Man: How is it in there?
Computer: It's OK
For me, it's Mallarmé.
I prefer I Can't Believe It's Not Butter.
>>9159310
For me, it's I Can't Believe It's Not Butter then.
WHAT?
I'm interested in learning about Zen philosophy.
Any suggestions?
mumonkan
zen teaching huang po
zen is not buddhism
It doesn't make sense to start with "Zen Buddhism" without studying Buddhism in general first.
I always recommend the following procedure to find texts on a new topic:
google "syllabus __topic__ harvard.edu" (or Stanford or whatever you want) and get the reading list for an undergrad intro course.
This way you're getting recommendations from a scholar instead of an internet. Then mine the bibliographies of the introductory texts for more detailed reading.
>>9159243
*Hits you in the face*
Have you reached satori yet?
What are some /naturalism/ essentials?
Is pic related naturalism?
>>9159201
Dubliners is modernism. I'm not the guy to ask about naturalism though because admittedly I mainly read modernist and post-modernist lit.
Nah.
Check out Emile Zola.
Guy de Maupassant. Although he also wrote spooky stories.
I know his ouvre wasabout 300 stories (what's the english for cuento?) and novels, so, it'd be worth it to learn french just for Guy?
My rereading has led me to believe that Catcher in the Rye is a horror story. Like Lolita, in the mind of a maniac. Most review it like it is some Ode to Youth, or criticizing Holden for his petulance like he actually wrote the book or something. I do see that Salinger was channeling his frustrations through Holden but I don't think it's about teenage angst but about something much more frightening. With Mark Chapman and company in mind, and the fact that Salinger was there on D Day and for the freeing of Dachau camp, and for that line in the book about how when DB was in the war he felt like shooting everyone- Reading it again as a somewhat healthy/mature person, I get this overwhelming sense of dread, terror and forboding, like Holden is going to do something very terrible. I think it's to Salinger's merit that he created a character that comes to life, but this animation seems to distract readers from the underlying movement created by Salinger at ever turn. The universality of a young voice slowly losing grip with humanity is not only terrifying, but makes me realize that Salinger was, like Nabokov, prophesizing through fiction .
>>9159183
cool
>>9159183
holden did go through something terrible in that he had a nervous breakdown but that's the opposite of losing his humanity
It's juat a teen going through a breakdown because he's lonely, a failure in life and his brother's dead.
I've never read LOTR, what is represented by the journey to Mordor, the ring, and destruction of the ring?
>>9159173
racism
>>9159173
the ring represents repressed homosexual instincts
Nothing is represented, it's just an English professors pet project
/lit/ needs comprehensive guide to literature.
There are many great writers not mentioned in charts
>>9159168
The point is after you've read the basics you shouldn't need a chart made by a Vietnamese ginseng bazaar to find new literature to read.
>>9159168
Make it yourself if you want one. No one wants to spoonfeed you.
>>9159168
Just follow the Goodreads recommendations anon
How do i stop caring about science and philosophy and live my life indifferent to Truth and metaphysics?
Ive done it before but i forgot how i did it and im fucking scared that ill never come out of this.
I smoke weed to make myself stupid and get by without caring or thinking too deeply about things. It works most of the time.
>>9159109
>Cares about science and philosophy
>Doesn't want to care about it
So you're schizophrenic? You've got to keep a journal between your two selves and have a dialogue, that's the only way out
>>9159124
that's not how schizophrenia works
Has any book ever moved you to tears, /lit/?
I read Moby-Dick about two years ago on my own time, and the book left a powerful imprint on my mind. Now, I'm in a class that requires me to read it, so I'm reading it again. When I read "Loomings," and then "Call me Ishmael" again, I burst into tears. I felt like I was home, like I was back where I belonged.
Has a book ever made you feel that way? Or we can have a Moby-Dick thread. Whatever.
Ishmael awakening with Queequeg's arm around me makes me laugh, mostly because I am still reading the book, only just having finished Sermon
>>9159026
I can't wait to read this book again.
>>9159026
Most of the fiction I read is for the symbolism and understanding the theme and implications in the real world. The only books that have actually left me emotionally moved are shitty books (many children's books) with flawed characters I can relate to. Like Bridge to Terabithia for example.
I enjoy reading, I enjoy it a whole lot. I always read when I was a kid. I enjoyed going to the library and picking out novellas just to return them read a day or two later. I fell out of reading around middle school. I developed some form of ADD and it makes it near impossible for me to focus on a book for more than a few pages.
I went for years without reading for leisure. I decided to turn that around. I downloaded the Metro books, Roadside Picnic, and The First Law among others. These three books absolutely captivated me, I managed to finish The First Law in about a week and a half despite having school and work to contend with. I've tried reading House of Leaves and The Black Company but I struggle to force my brain to focus on the story.
My question is, what are some good ways to focus on reading? Alternatively, what are some books that are just so good my brain requires no effort to stay engaged?
You don't develop adhd. One of the criteria is having symptoms before age 7. You simply rotted your brain with video games and pornography
>>9158897
Non-existent condition invented in order to sell unnecessary medications. Any problems you have are entirely psychosomatic and you should try your best to get over them.
>ADD
>ADHD
First of all, they don't exist, second of all, no, you don't just develop it while reading.
I know that it sounds like that old guy being a twat advice, but try reading it on paper, not on a screen. I have trouble focusing on ebooks on the like, but have no trouble with things on paper and don't know why.
What is your favorite novel of his? short story? prose?
The Killers
The capital of the world.
Nice headphones.
How can I become as smart as Thomas Pynchon? He seems to have a rather wide knowledge about many topics. Can I make do with just reading a lot of Wikipedia pages?
>>9158516
another quality frog thread
Frogposters must die
Start with the greeks
I'm not a regular poster on this board and I'm also not a big reader but I've recently started getting more into reading books. I myself am a very indecisive person and I find it hard to start doing new things without a little helpful push and where else to ask for help but a community about reading? So here I am to ask the denizens of /lit/ what books are absolutely essential to read things that will help me grow as a reader and as a person? I apologize if this is poorly written, vague, etc.
>>9158452
To grow as a person:
Schopenhauer's 'On Women'
McDonald's Culture of Critique Series
Decline of the West
Ride the Tiger
My Twisted World
The Bell Curve
>>9158452
No joke these are pretty much all good reads.
To grow as a reader you should read:
1984
The Stranger
Heart of Darkness
Notes From The Underground
Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
One Hundred Years of Solitude
Infinite Jest
relatively entry-level but still fun and insightful
Anyone else finished this? Most difficult book i've read desu. What did you think
>>9158416
What did you find difficult. Im 30 pages in and it seems prtty regular to me. Finished ancient historya while ago and that wasnt hard at all.
>>9159292
Tfw to smart to book hard
>>9159292
Holy fuck im drunk. But seriously I heard he was difficult. But have yet to ecounter any trouble. Although the whole parabolathing went over my head. But that was 2 percent of the book. These are the only 2 Mcelroy books ive read.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3800/3800-h/3800-h.htm
Is this sound under modern logic?
>>9158040
Yes, there's no logical mistakes in Spinoza's Ethics.
>>9158099
Holy fuck. So why doesn't everyone read this?