which one is superior, /lit/?
>not rely on outside sources and come to your own conclusions trough experience and observation
>let extrinsic thoughts in and then contemplate them, with the danger of them being biased and influence your own train of thought
is it eve possible to not get biased my external information? is it even something to strive for?
>>9212079
You're not as smart as you think you are, and someone else has had better thoughts than you about every subject
>>9212096
i never said i'm smart.
what i'm trying to get at is, if a thought is worth anything if you didn't come up with it yourself. no matter how insignificant it might be. isn't, for example, bombarding your mind with philosophical concepts like lecture a baby on how to dance ballet in hope he will somehow learn how to do his first steps from that?
So /lit/, fiction or non-fiction?
What's your preference? Or at least, which do you read most?
Myself it's probably non-fiction.
non-fiction
i can't bring myself to read fiction anymore. it feels utterly pointless.
not that non-fiction isn't pointless either
>>9212066
immolate yourself my man
For me it's mostly non-fiction plus short stories. Occassionaly a novel. But novels usually are too long for me and I get bored with the writer's style. Recently I feel that films are the superior medium of storytelling - more concise and subtle. But it's harder to find a good film than a good novel.
be right back. Going to whisper "David Foster Wallace" three times into my bathroom mirror.
OP isnt back........ wait.... what happened?
>>9212078
Op's mirror turned into a giant tv and a knock came to the door. It's the mailman. She proceeded to go through the mail only to find a blue cartidge labelled ' the entertainment'. they watch it and went into a catatonic state, pissed themselves, and died
>>9212078
I have. It was okay.
>>9211925
I have. It was mediocre.
someone should write slash fiction about ben carson's hands and donald trump's hands
Can we talk about this masterpiece of a series?
>>9211875
Did you accidentally post the wrong image buddy?
>>9211875
Simon Vance did a wonderful audiobook version of it.
>tfw Aristotle drinks the hemlock
>tfw Yeshua gets nailed to the cross
>tfw Beatriz dies
>tfw The man goes to the bathroom
Hi /lit/. Need advice on how to put myself in a better environment to read. Can only get about an hour in on work days and 3 hours in on days off. I'm too distracted w screens or I'm jackin off or I'm contemplating the priority problem for hours on what to read next or I'm browsin this fuckin page. Need some help, thanks
Bump
>>9211867
there is no such thing as "better environment" - just start reading, you're seeking to excuse your laziness with "i'm distracted"
>>9211932
thank you anon
Poets and playwrights of old would invoke the muses to inspire them.
Socrates claimed that a spirit spoke in his ear and taught him right from wrong.
Even Dante invokes the muses, and later Apollo, but the spirit that he perhaps truly derived inspiration from was the Holy Spirit.
Do you invoke spiritual powers to help you in your writing, /lit/?
it was something they invented to not be responsible for their creations.
>not motivated?
allas, the muse isn't paying me any visits lately
>wrote something edgy
the spirits guided me
the idea of an external force takes away all the pressure on the artist. they can just claim they're merely the medium trough which the deities speak to humanity.
pretty cowardly
>>9211859
Dantes invocations seemed semi ironic
>>9211868
More like pretty based
i am looking for a book that will make me feel feelings
what's the last book that made you feel?
pic related for me
Dunno that it answers the question 100% honestly, but pic related is the first thing that came to mind.
>>9211828
Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach
It made me feel uncompetitive and able
>>9211828
Skylark is an incredible book, one of my favourites. Some good books that gave me a similar feeling are
The Waves by Virginia Woolf
Heartsnatcher by Boris Vian
The Tanners by Robert Walser
Inland by Gerald Murnane
Hi /lit/,
This is from The Soul in Nature, by Hans Christian Oersted
love, /pol/
>>9211819
How do I become a romance novel author?
Copy a romance novel, but change the character names.
I was disappointed to find that Wisconsin Whore Dog is not in print.
>>9213117
This shit is way harder than I thought. I just do not know how to write 'steamy passion'
As if it didn't matter at all which word were in front of you at this moment, none of them provide any significance to you. And it's not as if arranging them in any other way would change the ultimate meaning much. All of it is unprovable drivel in the end. It's as if time itself doesn't exist and everything is everything at the same exact instant.
Am I becoming schizo?
this is apogee-georgesorosindoctrination kids
>>9211782
>this is apogee-georgesorosindoctrination kids
Why apogee? Why not nadir?
Because it doesn't matter which word you use. The meaning is futile.
You've proven my point.
>>9211744
did they make you feel in the past?
Anyone know the deal Odysseus made with the black ram?
>>9211634
The one he sacrificed to lure the dead to come speak to him?
He got a 300hp mercury outboard, gasoline, and a GPS so that he could get back to Ithaca in a day or two instead of seven years or whatever the fuck it was.
>>9211634
The contract stated the Moor was to kept his wife satisfied while Odysseus was in Troy so she wouldn't have sex with any of her suitors.
was it as good as hyped?
bump
has anyone here even read it? can it compare at all to the great meme itself, infinite jest?
I've read it. It was good, but it's no IJ.
let you know when it shows up on bookzz.
pay for it? hahahahaha no.
on that subject.. has anyone tried to find pirate copies of books outside of bookzz and irc's #bookz? the last few times i went looking, for example, an epub of Moorcock's "Elric at the End of Time", the few hits i got all led to pages that set off alarms and warnings from my antivirus software. the fuck?
Does /lit/ consider audiobooks a proper way to consume and understand literature, assuming you're giving it your full attention?
>>9211594
I personally don't think it's the same.
No. I had no idea how important punctuation and paragraph placement is until I tried an audiobook.
>>9211594
I work the night shift at work so I am allowed to use my earbuds. I'll use audible for most of the time and while it does diminish the experience, it is VERY useful in my situation.
It also strongly relies on the Narrator him/herself. If the person reading to me is the fullest human being on earth, I won't be able to listen to it. I recommend anything read by R.C Bray
>Listening to sci-fi novel
>Protagonist is in the army.
>Calls a magazine a clip
>Deletes audiobook