How do I write god tier patrician poetrhy?
So far after doing my researchs It boils down to:
>Traditional classical use of metric, taking into account the accent (Iambs) and other accent structures (trochees) acording to the classical strucuture in classical feet
>Use of figures of speech
>Repetition of consonants and vowels
>have something important to say
>rhyme acording to classical ideas
So far, those are the ones that I've gotten.
Poetry seems simple in an intelectual sense, but is so fucking hard to write, like wtf this is too hard.
So, how the fuck do I do a good poem?
My goal right now is to being able to write good single verses.
So, I tried a sonnet but failed, it was too hard.
So, I focused on writing just one verse and got this one:
"Oh, ser tan sano que sexear burras"
I know is crap, but I would like some advice, is about how healthy is donkeyfucking.
>>9212855
You got to get off the syllables and on the ictus.
if you plan to publish i don't think it's worth it; the golden age of poetry is gone and i doubt it'll ever come back. all contemporary poetry is just free verse emotional masturbatory trash.
>>9212855
Practice more. Pick a topic and write a sonnet. It doesn't have to be good, just follow the form and practice.
No one sits down at the piano their first time and plays something beautiful, they need to practice and study. So do you.
I'm learning French at the moment and want to practice by reading some simpler poetry and short stories.
Can lit rec me anything that's good but not trop difficile à comprendre?
Jacques Prévert
Some XXth or XIXth century literature would surely be more appropriate,classical literature being far more difficult to read. Perhaps some short stories quite pleasing, simple but elegant and easily understandable would be Prosper Mérimée's ones. At least you can give it a try.
For me, it's Elio Pagliarani.
>>9212808
For me, it's the McChicken. Intelligent, nihilistic, with a WICKED sense of humor. I usually ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.
One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!".
Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.
I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant.
For me, it's masturbation in the late afternoon.
What does /lit/ think of my shelf?
>>9212710
>Fagles
It's shit.
>>9212710
I think its got some books on it.
You should read some of those.
>>9212710
>LotGH
10/10
Look at this shit. Reddit was completely unable to answer my question with anything other than sophistry and appeals to social conventions.
These people fucking go on and on about how the study of philosophy requires massive amounts of "critical thinking" but when you question their assumptions suddenly they go crazy and claim, "Well we shouldn't bother questioning that!"
>inb4 "why not ask 4chan"
I have, but you guys ignore stuff due to shitposting elsewhere.
https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/5ya5hm/what_does_concept1_say_we_should_do_what_is_its/
[–]penispenis9 2 Punkte vor 16 Stunden
The arbitrary creation of a concept by a person sitting in a room thinking about something is not analogous to the creation of the concept of morality. Morality didn't come from nowhere, it has a real history. Bad analogy. All creation is not equal
OP btfo by a redditor. SAD!
It's worth investigating because we have strong intuitions about what concept1 says we should do in certain situations, so it's useful to try to formalize those intuitions together into some coherent generalization so that we know what the concept1 recommendation is for more ambiguous situations, where we intuitively want to follow concept1 but don't as easily intuit the right course of action. It's precisely because we want to develop coherent theories of action that follow certain of our concept1 intuitions that generalizations are interesting.
>ask* subreddits
Jesus Anon those are almost as bad as the bad* subreddits, why would you even bother?
As a gay man in a committed homosexual relationship I find people's hatred for Card's homophobia tiresome and irritating, especially the misrepresentation of his views.
Songmaster is a masterpiece.
>Ferris
>gay
DELET THIS
>>9212665
Ferris loves cock
>>9212631
I wish Ferris was real and my boyfriend.
I am writing a novel that deals with the Christian faith. It's not going to be a book that would be sold in Christian stores, it has many elements of satire.
I'd like to read other good works that deal specifically with the Christian faith, for inspiration,
Just to put it out there
I've already read the Divine Comedy
Paradise Lost
The Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain (best of the three, in my opinion
>>9212613
The End of an Affair by Graham Greene
The Master of Hestviken by Sigrid Undset
Barrabas by Per Lagervist
The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene
Silence by Shuskau Endo
Death Comes for the Archbishop by Willa Cather
laurus by eugene vodolazkin
Master and Margarita by Bulgakov
The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
Les Miserables by Hugo
I personally am not a fan of Flannery OConnor, but others here love him. Disregard Wolfe posters. Consider Hillaire Belloc
>>9212613
>religious fiction
Biggest tautology I've ever read
>>9212689
And a hearty dip o the ol fedora to you too
wtf I hate leftists now
>>9212517
awful book
only lefty shills would push this moron. the 19th century paul ryan.
>>9212517
political cartoons were so much better in those days
Why did he marry a Jewish person even though he was an anti-semite?
>>9212464
>>9212464
Look at him. Look at his face, goddamn it. Who'd even want to marry that thing?
>>9212464
Lovecraft's racism is overblown, he was a man of his time.
And can it not be just some combination of platitudes and descriptions of how it made you feel (ie. "it was comfy" "it was like x but not as good as it" "I got bored after the first ten pages") ect.)
>in b4 "just fucking read it"
I plan to; it's next on my log. I was wondering what sort of mythologies or criticisms I would want to maybe get familiar with before diving into it. It's a newer book and there aren't exactly resources online to have this kind of discussion (meaning no phd student has botched a disseration on it yet). What do the narrative styles remind you of? Are there any passages you like just because you like them. What philosophers/thinkers do you think align with Moore and why? Come on /lit/, surprise me.
Haven't read it, sorry
>>9212468
it's okay, what are you reading rn?
>>9212473
Currently? Dry academic lit for my history studies, which is almost the exact opposite of what Moore seems to be doing here
1) Should one aim to speak as eloquently as possible?
2) Will speaking eloquently alienate those around one?
3) Should alienating others, by way of speaking eloquently, be a concern?
4) BONUS: Christopher Hitchens said Salman Rushdie was his greatest friend. Thoughts on Rushdie?
>>9212408
1) no
2) ?
3) alienate yourself" -fixed for you
And yes.
4) ?
Speaking eloquently = fag
>>9212408
It is better to speak to people in language they can understand unless they have an interest in learning new words in which case is probably not in spoken dialogue, but in reading.
People will consider you pretentious and condescending if you speak above their level. That's the short simple truth of it even if that's not your intention.
Well?
Thoughts?
>>9212300
Good prose and it makes me feel. Good book.
1. Álvaro de Campos
2. Bernardo Soares
3. Alberto Caeiro
90001. Ricardo Reis
>>9212300
"We never know self-realization.
We are two abysses-a well staring at the sky."
It's also important to remember that Pessoa was a warlock
ITT: sophists
tl;dr penis mom
me lol
>>9212292
Wrong.
What would be a good book to read that would allow me to become a better conversationalist? Not a Dale Carnegie self-help book either.
read every book of literary merit you are interested in, you will retain language to be deployed at will. If you read specifically for that purpose you'll end up talking like a stilted politician
>>9212359
Thanks for the honest and helpful information.