>>9216504
Why does he smoke the pipe?
>>9216504
He's a prosefag and, most importantly, a hack.
>>9216507
A lot of royalties, for a hired gun!
>mfw people read fiction for "ideas"
>mfw people think putting a book under such titles as Existentialism, Romanticism, Realism, means they understand it
>mfw people read fiction to "learn" from it
There is no practical use to art.
Art is to evoke beauty and pity through its use of style.
Nothing more.
t. undergrad who's never read an article on aesthetics in his life.
>>9215886
t. imbecile
that's retarded.
Messages/ideologies/ideas are implicit in everything. We are constantly creating meaning through categorization.
You can write a book with no idea of what your theme, message, or intention are. It might be more pure as a sensuous experience but also an indication of shallowness imo.
Who are your top three writers?
do women or minorities count?
>>9215771
Sure!
>>9215774
why...?
Which is his best work and why?
Agape(,) a(A)gape.\(!)
Most Bernhardian
>>9215744
I would say J R because it's constantly good. The recognitions has better ideas and says more about society and is probably more important. But the recognitions drags on. But fuck it's 900 pages what do you expect. But J R is way funnier and is a wild ride from start to finish. You never want to put it down. All the characters are hilarious and likeable. I found a lot of the characters annoying and shitty in the recognitions.
>>9215781
>ideas
lol
What the fuck was this degenerates problem? How the fuck was he not arrested?
>>9215687
He was arrested, several times.
>>9215687
He was fucking great, dude. I love all of his work.
>>9215694
The fact that it happened several times indicates that he was not punished thoroughly
Hey /lit/ I know we mostly discuss novels and works of non-fiction, philosophy and whatnot, but I have recently become interested in reading some plays (pretty faggy, I know)...
Can anyone please help me out with any important works that I should pick up? I've already got the complete works of Shakespeare and some other scripts by O'Neill,Chekov, Arthur Miller, Tennessee Williams and a few Greek playwrights like Sophocles and Euripides.
Who else should I check out? And what plays of theirs, SPECIFICALLY, should I read first?
I'm aware of plenty of names of playwrights but I am looking for recommendations for SPECIFIC plays.
Thank you kindly in advance
Picture completely unrelated
Obligatory Waiting For Godot by Samuel Beckett
And as for Greeks, don't forget Aeschylus and his Oresteia and Prometheus Bound. I've not read too many plays either, but to experience Goethe's masterwork of a play first read the play Doctor Faustus by Christopher Marlowe and then Faust by Goethe. Another worth mentioning is Boris Godunov by Pushkin, even just for the Mussorgsky's incredible opera based on it with the same name
>>9215346
>tfw no barechested jabbercocky-riding gf
>tfw you will never be castrated by a woman as beautiful as her
>>9215346
Beckett - Waiting for Godot and Endgame
Edward Albee The Zoo Story and Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Harold Pinter The Caretaker; The Birthday Party; The Homecoming
David Mamet Glengarry Glenn Ross
Arthur Miller Death of a Salesman; All My Sons
Georg Buchner Woyzzeck
Bertolt Brecht Mother Courage and Her Children; The Caucassian Chalk Circle; Galileo
Anton Chekov The Cherry Orchard; The Seagull; Uncle Vanya
Suppose Marx's ideas weren't put to such use as they were in the twentieth century - suppose Marx never entered into the world of action, how would he be remembered in the history of philosophy? We know what he is infamous for, what would he have been famous for, if anything?
>>9214739
Well, he's the first person who really emphasized the class struggle, so he'd probably be remembered as muh as most sociologists and stuff.
Bakunin btfo'd him.
>>9214739
a deadbeat dad who impregnated his maid then left her to stave on the streettt
Good authors /lit/ never discusses.
I'll start: Graham Greene
John le Carré
John Cortazar
>>9214186
Genre fiction my man. We don't like it.
My favorites
Hawkes
Barthelme
Coover
Federman
Mcelroy
Bernhard
which philosophy will turn me into a narcissist?
>>9214049
Basically any of it
Nietzsche, why do you think normies love him so much
>>9214069
this.
>muh SUPERHUMANS
This guy is fucking impossible.
took me so many tries, but i did eventually beat him
it is possible, you just have to keep trying
try a guide
>>9214020
Git gud faggot, I finished the phenomenology in my first attempt with only four estuses
>>9214020
the funny thing about hegel is that he himself wrote so lazily and obscurely (i.e. just did not give a fuck) that as a result (a) all serious hegel scholars look like better philosophers than the man himself and (b) all of their interpretations differ. no fun.
I don't get it, why is suffering a good thing? And are mostly devout christians saying it like that? I know Dosto and Kierkegaard do, but why?
Suffering=physical or emotional pain=bad.
?
it's not the suffering, it's how you learn to deal with the suffering that's the good thing.
>>9213931
>pain = bad
chucked
read C&P
>>9213931
Redemption from sin (your own and others) is obtained through suffering
Is Ted Kaczynski one of the great thinkers of the 20th century?
>>9213794
I hate this place. I hate this board. I hate this thread. And I especially hate you OP you worthless baiting retarded cringey edgelord. Fuck you.
Hello, CIA.
I agree with Ted. He's right about everything desu.
The real 14 words are "The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race"
In all of history, I can't think of a single even which I've found more interesting than the Vietnam War. In all honesty, I can't name a single relevant book.
Can you help? I skimmed the sticky but found none.
>>9213729
Not about the Americans invading Nam, but there is a great book about the Vietnamese clashing with the French called The Quiet American
>>9213729
Same guy (/pol/ poster) from last night?
>>9213749
That's a real shame. And really hard to believe, actually. I'll check your recommendation out though. It rings a bell. I've definitely heard the title before.
How do you handle rejection?
>>9213420
badly t b h
>>9213420
With rage
>>9213420
By realizing your rejection and you are insignificant and everyone is going to forget it
Name a country that produced a better of body of work in the twentieth century.
>>9213378
As regards fiction, you're 100% right. But for poetry and philosophy I'd look somewhere else to be honest
>20 stars