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Every kid had to overcome the limits their parents set for them, both when they were twelve or whatever and again when they were adults. Which means the girl had to get fucked. If anything it's pretty clever. Anyway, there's a sequence where the girl's dad admits he wants to suck his daughter's clit between his front teeth; didn't that set you off? What about the gay underage handjob? That was okay too?
Out of all sexual things in the book the orgy was the least heinous.

>>9223587
>there's a sequence where the girl's dad admits he wants to suck his daughter's clit between his front teeth

pretty sure that was IT

>>9223542
>>9223587
Does Stephen King does this kind of thing often?

I'm not sure if I should admire his ability to get it published, and therefore expressing the freedom to free speech no matter what, or if I should have serious concerns about Stephen King's sexuality.

>>9230366
>What literature would you consider essential for the canon?
An all-encompassing canon is a pipe dream. It will never exist.
>And besides their influence, why are they consider good?
Have you ever read a piece of critical work on anything? It is a combination of consensus among critics and your own personal tastes. What one person likes another may not, and that does not make either of them objectively correct or incorrect.

>Sure, Homer and Shakespeare paved the way for others, but is the Odyssey or Macbeth better than, let's say, Moby Dick or A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, in purely artistic terms?
Again, read critical studies and form your own opinion. You will never come to a direct conclusion about something by reading other people's opinions. Form your own.

I think you should be less concerned on an arbitrary and vacuous canon that is pure fantasy, and more concerned on developing your own knowledge of literature through trial and error & experimentation.

>>9230366
the importance of starting with the greeks exists beyond their widely accepted quality. of course one could argue that homeric poetry is just as good as moby dick, but widely the greeks are better than most literature.

>why?

history acts as a natural press, meaning "good" literature comes to the top. only a fraction of a percent of literature from that period still exists and remains in print. this is purely due to the fact that better literature was memorized and saved with higher importance that what was bad literature. therefore, when reading any work from the greeks, it has championed the tests of time and remained relevant due to its quality. of course many recent books are of undeniable quality, but modern literature isnt as consistent, just as you have moby dick you also have the fault in our stars. one is wonderful and the other isnt, so you cant really have that certainty coming into it.


>but why (start) with the greeks

the reason remains the same. classics have survived the test of time. their quality is hard to deny. therefore modern and historically significant authors draw inspiration from the greeks. there is no hope of appreciating most significant poetic and literary choices without awareness of the greeks. starting with the greeks demonstrates a strong structural knowledge of literature and poetry by demonstrating it in one of the highest qualities imaginable. if you start with the greeks you will be able to say if you appreciate macbeth better than moby dick and you will be able to tell why. the greeks lay foundations for poetic structure and flow, starting with them will teach you what you like in a poem and what you hate. simultaneously it will demonstrate what you like in story structure and what you think is lack luster

>>9230366
Stendahl and Plutarch

I think it's tl;dr for
>english pronunciation makes no sense

>>9230073
English is a rather comical language because it's just a bunch of simple words that, when strung together and formed into derivatives, actually mean something profound? It wasn't developed to be very beautiful or whatever?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa why are academics such utter wankers. JUST MAKE IT SIMPLE AND STOP TRYING TO FLEX MUH VOCAB

Hey I'm a Christian, take it back.

>>9229780
>Seriously, in the entire Christian era after the silver age of Latin and before the Renaissance and it's rediscovery of classical texts, we had *ONE* great author: Dante.
Wrong. Chaucer, Daniel, and Cavalcanti are all great authors.

Guess what, Nietzsche realized the same thing almost 150 years before you did.

>redpilled (i.e. objective, non-ideological, Absolute, undistorted, capital-T True)

Don't try to infuse the retarded red-pill term with those attributes, also: it's impossible to attain knowledge on women that meets these standards

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>>9229076
>non-ideological

>>9228730
26 isn't old in a grad class. Go ahead. I did my MA at 29-30, PhD at 35-39, and I felt a bit too old (I wasn't the oldest, but most students were younger). It really doesn't make much difference: you're not there to date.

protip: master's in librarian science is basically a way for colleges to milk those programs where employers pay for their employees to do a masters...if you already work at a library and they want to pay for you to do a librarian masters so you can get a promotion, cool go for it, but paying out of pocket for one of those bogus "do this master's and get a promotion" degree without a current job in the industry that is paying for it? whew lad as they say

good fucking lord

goethe you fucking retard

and i know you're trying to bait something so you can come in with trogdolyte-tier reddit comments on >hur durr goethe is shit

kys

What about the Swiss?

Kneeche

OP, I can't make sense of what you're getting at, but that picture and filename are great

>>9227419
why does he pose to take pictures but seems like he is never happy about it?

>>9227435
He never poses, that's just how geniuses stand and think

>>9227059
Only man vs. author really fits into postmodern alone. I mean, Man vs Self isn't a modern-only convention, that's always been present in literature.

eh, its not completely true but I also completely see where the artist is coming from

>>9227065

I think the problem with defining postmodernism is that strict definitions go against the major tenants of postmodernism.

>>9226342
yeah, I'll bite.

What is the Book of Enoch? What alternatives do I have to the "standard version"? And why should I care?

>>9226361
Hebrew Mythology

>>9226361
>What is the book of Enoch?
One of the most famous banned books of all time.

>What alternatives do I have to the "standard version"?
Some really shitty edited versions that read like something a fifth grader put together.

>And why should I care?
There is no record of Enoch dying and according to scholars, Revelation 11 is about him. He'll be back to earth at one point in the future if in fact, the whole of biblical knowledge is true. 1 Enoch deals with some things too controversial to be put into the Bible even though, it technically is a part of the bible. Catholic fags didn't like the way it talked about the fallen angels so they banned the book and tried to burn it out of existence.

>>9226127
He was probably none of those, but still a great artist and probably a Prophet of some sort

>>9226127
I dunno but community was really funny until the fourth season

Dick did a lot to make sci-fi human. A lot of other sci-fi authors before him made everything cold and distant.
He is the NIN of sci-fi.

>>9225918
Wew lad careful with that shit, I was tripping balls last week and started reading Celine
Damn fuck
never again you hear

>>9225921
For real.

Got stoned and decided to try out Notes From The Underground at the library. That was a mistake.

>>9225918
Get stoned and read The Double, that should be fun

Yes, but I doubt women feel the same.

>>9225175
I avoid talking about books to anyone IRL, it usually just makes me think less of them when all they read is Harry Potter or Murikami

>>9225175

I'd rather have a woman who reads good books(not YA, commercialized fantasy like HP, John Green, etc), rather than a woman who spends all day glued to her phone screen.

Are you the dumbest, or just dumb?

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>>9224636

His book on Shakepeare made me moan and helped a lot with some stuff I was mulling about, but his insinuation that Merchant of Venice and Dostoevsky in general were constrained by their latent anti-semitism makes me somewhat droop

Shitty YA identity politics, unless you go to St. John's or somewhere similar.

What literature would you put in an university English curriculum if you could?