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>>9244040
Don Quixote.

Doesn't have any of that capitalist/free-market trash though

>>9244040
none. nerds don't read fiction

>>9244040
Darkness at Noon, although like >>9244139 it doesn't really exhort capitalism or the free market, even though it's very anti state-socialist

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>>9243891
How can he be so sure?

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sorry but I don't have a lot of respect for people who commit suicide including Ernst Hemingway and I love his work

drinking yourself do death like Hoagy Carmichael doesn't count

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>>9244055
Daily reminder that both DFW and Hemingway did not kill themselves for "muh feels" reasons

>he hasn't already read all these

How is 9th grade?

The description on the Amazon page of a trash bin you'll buy to throw that garbage into

>>9243875
pynchon first

>>9243839
No book can make you more anything.

Caliban and the Witch

Steppenwolf

>>9243823
aristotle poetics

The Selfie of Dorian Gray

Start with art history.

>Bret Easton Ellis

>>9243806

>Always

>>9243806
yknow i always wondered; the hell kinda name is "Bret" `?

like seriously whod name their kid Bret?

>>9243796
>looking for reason and consistency in mythology

>>9243815
Of course you shouldn't expect consistency over the course of a myth's history, but you should expect consistency within a single author's work. Forgetting Plato's weird myth for a second, Hesiod would've been aware about the question of reproduction Works and Days raises, but doesn't address it. What's up with that?

start with the greeks

Dude do you not remember the rape scene?

>>9243765
He Phoebe's his sister, rape.

>>9243765
he was a pussy that couldn't fuck a prostitute

>>9243746
Can I read the gnostic gospels if I only read the four gospels of the new testament, or do I need to finish it first?

>>9243746
gnosticism = LARP

> gnostics all killed by the pope's hired mercenaries

patrician how? they died without losing their faith? pffffft, yeah, whatever.

>>9243637
What else is an introduction supposed to tell you? It's your own fault for reading them before the book.

>>9243666
If you're supposed to read it after the book then it should be in the back of the book, no?

You don't need to spoil the plot to tell me the author's and book's background along with some important themes of the book.

>>9243637
>>9243637
>reading for plot

>>9243636
>Some of the brightest philosophers today seem to have chosen multimedia as their medium of choice
wrong
>How will academia respond to this: will we see more and more traditional scholars dialoguing with youtubers
no

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>>9243636
>>9243645
Demosthenes was the greatest orator of the ancient world, and yet there is not even a single line of his embedded in the collective consciousness to compare to the reams of those of the philosophers. — A note on the philosophical, at any rate, value of rhetoric.

Why is rhetoric of so much less value than writing? The orator only has to convince those who happen to be present when he delivers his oration, the philosopher has to "convince" the entire future. Oratorical skill is not merely irrelevant for us but a downright weakness. To HAVE to talk to "people" — that is how weakness is defined for us. Between higher and lower, as I've already said, there can be no communication. That is the province, not of words, but of actions.

Note that what I said about rhetoric also applies to YouTube videos, "pod"casts, public debates, interviews and smoke signals. Real intellectuals will always choose writing, all other forms of communication (including, by the way, direct discussion) are for peasants.

These pop philosophers show not the slightest acknowledgement in their writings that a philosophical tradition even exists, and that the intractable problems with which they are so incompetently grappling have been discussed ad nauseam for millennia by all the geniuses. — All these efforts, at the end of the day, are obviously inherently abortive, since contrary to what all these people seem to think, you can't defeat a beast by RUNNING AWAY FROM IT. There's only one solution: to GRAPPLE with the beast, which is to say, WITH THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF PHILOSOPHY, which of course presupposes that you have at least some inkling of it! In short: Don't be a pseud. Don't abortive. Be a man. Be a genius. — Or at least try to be one, the first step of which attempt would be... to see how you measure up against past geniuses, by making at least some kind of an effort to read them.

>>9243706
>The orator only has to convince those who happen to be present when he delivers his oration, the philosopher has to "convince" the entire future.

This criticism holds no weight when talking about digital recordings that can be viewed till the end of time. I don't know why you mentioned it, this is sort of dumb.

>Real intellectuals will always choose writing, all other forms of communication (including, by the way, direct discussion) are for peasants.

Almost every single intellectual you can think of has spoken publicly. Some even have a number of lectures transcribed.

I am embarrassed for you.

Bait threads are annoying.

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And THIS is the greatest philosopher of the 21th century

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nggMBKFnYJQ

>>9243564
It has to be Heidegger.
But since Derrida died in 2004, he's the greatest of the 21st.

arent you a barrel of laughs

>>9243514
Manlet starters kit

>>9243514
much bigger than yours.

>>9243446
it is

>>9243446
Same with infinite jest

>>9243446
It's literally a supernatural mystery story with a 15-year old protagonist. What makes you think it isn't YA?

you're nothing but a disappointment, lit

Lit you never disappoint me

>>9243428
Kant was wrong