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>tfw reading the Bible and am continually blown away at how amazing it is
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>christfag
>watches anime as a replacement for interaction with real women
what a surprise
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What books in particular are blowing you away?
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>>9264230

What translation? Favourite passage/book?

Also, nothing beats Ecclesiastes.

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What novel to do you think of as the 'national epic' of your home country?
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>>9264192
Leaves of Grass
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Zadie Smith's White Teeth
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Countries are for idiots, fuck all countries.

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>mfw the Confessions chapter was pretty good.
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I haven't read this book, but I remember hearing about what it was about—there's a mysterious entity called V, and everyone is after it, and it could be a woman named Victoria, or it could be this or that, and everyone's drawn to it—and I thought, it's probably Vagina. Isn't Pynchon sex-obsessed? So I thought, V. probably means Vagina, and the book is probably about how sex is the root cause and deep underlying motive for everything. Everything I've read about Gravity's Rainbow (which I also haven't read) makes it sound like it's the same sort of thing, only applied to war. Anyway, then one day I'm in Barnes & Noble, and I'm browsing the Fiction section, and it's McCarthy, Munro, Murakami, Proust, oh, hey, it's our old pal Pynchon, our favorite writer for sure, here's V., that old masterpiece, let me pick it up here, open to a random page and— Benny Profane is in New York City sitting on a bench and thinking about how everything is about sex. Probably the scene where Pynchon laying it all out for you. And people still argue about what this book means? It's about Fucking, which Pynchon (whom I haven't even read) apparently thinks everything is about. That old card.
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>>9264131
Got 100something pages into the book and wasn't really enjoying it. Last thing I remember reading was something about a desert and a restaurant. Some parts were cool others were eh, loved Crying of Lot 49 and Inherent Vice though. Should I pick this back up?
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>>9264163
Sex is a big thing in Pynchon but it's not ALL about sex

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We've all seen it dude. Don't buy into his persona so much. He's written some very enjoyable articles. Read those.
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>>9264031
>In democracy, you have to be a player

HST was fucking GOAT
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>>9264041
Any indications for good articles?

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How does /lit/ defend itself against the "blue curtains" argument?
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put up red curtains
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I don't know what the 'blue curtains' argument is. Are you talking about how teachers interpret books not originally intended by the authors to generate more meaningful discussion?
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Essentially, "the curtains were blue" works if the author typically doesn't say thing's colours, but if he paints everything it's just some word.
Also avoid the word "represents" in interpretation at all costs.

My housemate at uni got psychosis and is now on a ward... Why? Because her philosophy classes considered if we truly have free will... And she just couldn't hack it. [She quit classes and developed psychosis over a couple weeks.]

I thought that only happened in movies... What the fuck? People really are that weak willed...

Wow.
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>People
Women*
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Let me guess, OP: she was a typical young American white woman, with very little depth of thought or inner life? I'll be she loved Harry Potter, Game of Thrones (the TV show, of course), and Doctor Who? I'll bet she got so excited every Autumn when Starbucks brought the Pumpkin Spice Latte back?
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>>9263836

I wish I was joking because it's awful to see someone break down like that. But I am serious. I just can't comprehend that simply entertaining an idea like that could shut down one's mind. There must be something else underlying her psychosis. There must be.

Anyway, she is a young British white woman, and she's the type to smoke, listen to Joe Rogan, sleep around a lot, and come across generally quite dense. And she wears that ditzy 'charm' on her sleeve.

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what's your favorite book, and why?
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Naked Fart
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Collected Poems of David Foster Wallace.
It has a great ending.
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the fact it has an ending at all i suppose haha

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>he buys his books through Amazon®
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>not shoplifting from amazon
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>>9263613
>you actually care about this
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>>9263621
>YOU WOULDN'T STEAL AN EBOOK

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You know that weird, embarrassing idea you had for a story? The one you'd never tell anyone about? Share it with us.

We're all anonymous here.
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I had this idea for a dystopian story where a guy makes his way to the top of the business world by bluffing and then he ends up being made a world leader and doesn't know what to do. So he just launches loads of nukes and then the world is fucked. I'm thinking it can be an unofficial prequel to The Road.
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>>9263588
Are you describing Donald Trump?
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>first person novel written in an experimental form about necrophillia when I was 16
>240 pages

still proud of it.

I have a lot:

>fantasy meets industrial weaponry (guns were invented and shit)
>pyromaniac diary
>surgeon turns to black market and takes several of his patients' organs
>school shooter novel in first person pov with micronarratives

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Fuck lads, how do I deal with people approaching me when they have a crisis or a moment of existential fear? Recently there's been someone that has a tendency for nihilist/self-destructive moments and they basically expose me to them, I struggle to find an answer and something valuable to say while they cynically chuckle away, and the next day they apologize and say how much they value my advice (which they clearly ignore or don't react to)

They think I know an answer or something truly valuable to say, but I'm helpless, and often all I can come up with are platitudes or banal "wisdoms", often lifted from books I have read that barely have any connection to their situation

pls help
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>>9263573
More details
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>>9263606
What is there to say? There are a handful of people who think that, probably because I've read a few more books than them or am willing to talk to them, think they can ask me why they feel "empty" and why everything is pointless, or, in that one case, proclaim they are "emtpy" and then watch me try to piece something about that feeling together while they react sarcastically to my attempts

They say things like "I feel like everything is pointless and this feeling will never go away"
Or "Nothing I do really fulfills me" and then they expect me to be able to say some deep shit in response that somehow helps
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please, have you ever been in a similar situation? do you just say "sorry, I don't think I can help you"?

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>be Michael Crichton
>be trained as a medical doctor
>also a novelist
>be diagnosed with cancer
>write Next
>Next is critical to the medical establishment, at the research community, at Big Pharma, and at the government's policies regarding intellectual property rights for genetic discoveries
>previously write books with bibliographies
>Next has an appendix containing recommendations on legislative reform in the area of genetic research
what did he mean by this
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>>9263571
>be Michael Crichton
>be fairly well-respected pop science-fiction writer
>criticize the global warming industry once
>immediately get cancer and die
what did they mean by this?
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>>9263571
Does this post need translated or something?
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>>9263571
What does "Performed by Dylan Baker" mean?

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Recent purchases
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Just got On Conics book IV in the mail and I also got Léon Walras' Elements of Pure Economics also, which I'm starting today after I finish Progress and Poverty.

The Social Contract is in the mail.
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I bought these yesterday.

Read the bottom two already, they are quite short. I felt the socratic dialogues could use some analysis, but i couldnt find any plato in the bookshop that combined this with the actual text.

Ivan Denisovich seemed a fairly lucky bellend desu, seemed everybody else had it worse than him and despite being a arselick he had the gall to despise others for similar behaviour

For some reason i never read, or even saw a production of, hamlet so looking forward to that.

I seem to be collecting norton critical editions of ronantic poets, they tend to provide the best collections from what i have seen, along with some good further reading material
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Why do all of his books have at least one Jewish character?
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>>9262837
to remind the reader, the work is not done
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>>9262837
Why does your face have teeth? Same kind of stupid question.
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>>9262842
fpbp

http://jordanbpeterson.com/2016/11/maps-of-meaning-intro

I just wanted to share this reading list. Peterson think it is highly relevant and recommend Millennials read this. And i am also wondering what you guys might think of it.

Copied from the link

>In 1999 Routledge published my book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. It was the results of more than fifteen years of work — thousands of hours of obsessive thinking and writing. It was my attempt to deal with the aftermath of Nietzsche’s pronouncement of the Death Of God in his revelatory book, Thus Spake Zarathustra:

>Here are the Russian books I would profoundly recommend, as accompanying readings, as well as a list of books I regard as of the first order of importance:

>Dostoevsky

Crime and Punishment
The Brothers Karamazov
Notes from Underground
The Devils
The Idiot

>Tolstoy

Confessions
The Kingdom of God is Within You

>Bulgakov

The Master and Margarita

>Solzhenitsyn

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch
The Gulag Archipelago
The First Circle
Cancer Ward
Other books of critical importance:

>Carl Jung

The Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious
Aion
symbols of Transformation
Answer to Job
Erich Neumann
The Origins and History of Consciousness
The Great Mother

>George Orwell

1984
The Road to Wigan Pier
Animal Farm
Down and Out in Paris and London
Homage to Catalonia

>Aldous Huxley

Brave New World
The Doors of Perception

>Other Works

The Discovery of the Unconscious (Henri Ellenberger)
The Neuropsychology of Anxiety (Jeffrey Gray)
Affective Neuroscience (Jaak Panksepp)
The Emotional Brain (Joseph LeDoux)
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dumping rare Derridas
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>>9262691
I think it's a great attempt to get the white race on the right track. No women. No nonwhites.

Fucking proud to call myself redpilled by Peterson.

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HOW THE FUCK DO I GET GOOD AT WRITING
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>>9262666
Practice and talent.
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>>9262666
1. Read every day
2. Write every day
3. Finish things

Repeat ad infinitum
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Life experience and practice

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