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So I'm working through pic related, but I feel like it skips over a lot of stuff. By the time we get into the first couple of stories we're already encountering rather advanced concepts and structure. We have ideas such as mortals interacting with Gods, heroes, and rather intricate plots.

I feel like a lot of development up to this point was skipped over.

Is there any good book that (briefly) deals with the earliest forms of writing up until the Greeks? Jumping into some (relatively) advanced poetry makes me feel like I've missed a lot.
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>>9267702
To add to this, some stories, like that of Narcissus drowning feels like rather advanced topics of literature. Not like something that is a "start with..." anything.
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>>9267702
>>9267734
is this supposed to be a joke?
sage
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>>9267930
No

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what if with every fictional creation we are creating a new reality? if so should we be more responsable and considerate with the lives of the inhabitants of those worlds?
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>>9267622
it doesn't matter because it's not affecting our reality.
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We are cruel to our creations because our creator is cruel to us. It is the way of the world.
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>>9267878
Woah...

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What are some books with a fat protagonist?
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>>9267615
my diary desu
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>>9267615
Your mum's diary, desu
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>>9267615
Confederacy of dunces

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I just can't 'get into' it.
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Good poetry is good. Bad poetry is bad.
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>>9267630
You're not helping, buddy. I'm looking for a proper discussion.
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>>9267601
bumping for interest

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Thoughts on this book, /lit/?
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Enjoyed but never could figure out what's outside the window
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>>9267568
I read 2666 and concluded Bolano is a degenerate who doesn't warrant further reading.
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>>9267583
>muh degeneracy
what triggered you?

Daily reminder that TS Eliot wrote "The Love Song or J. Alfred Prufrock" at the age of 22.

How can poets these days even compete?
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this is a good question. but not a productive one for actual poets to think about, unless they have already produced a good piece of poetry and have enough confidence in themselves not to be discouraged.

there's more to poetry than eliot, is all I'll say. he was good, but we wasn't anywhere near the end-all be-all or whatever.

And even if you produce just one poem that ranks up there with the best, no matter how old you are when you wrote it, that's enough.
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>>9269626
>there's more to poetry than eliot, is all I'll say. he was good, but we wasn't anywhere near the end-all be-all or whatever.
have you read the Four Quartets, good sir??
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>>9269633
Have you read La Jeune Parque ?

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Was it autism?
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I think this book is a great alternative read for YA-fiction lovers. I'd rather have started reading with NotW than HP.
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>>9267524

The writing is at least better than HP but fails to capture everything Tolkien and Rowling did.
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This book has been sitting on my shelf for months, should I read it?

Sup, you beautiful /lit/erates? I'm conflicted as to what to choose. The Oxford one includes the Sophists like Protagoras, which the Penguin one lacks, but the Penguin one is edited by Jonathan Barnes, who's a legend as far as classical studies go. So, help me out, please, will ya? Which one should I choose?

PS.: No matter who you are, I love and I'd totally suck your dick. ;)
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>>9267421
I love the few OWC I have they are way nicer then penguin classics.
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I usually go for the Oxford editions of classic texts if I don't want to compare too much. Their texts and footnotes are usually pretty good.
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>>9267421

cambridge editions are pretty standard for academic or scholarly uses.

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What works do you like from this author?
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>>9267371
I recently read some of his short stories and liked them. The one called Últimos atardeceres en la tierra was pretty good.
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>>9267380
What other short stories have you read by him?
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2666 and when he shit talked about Chilean new narrative, everyone here was buttblasted

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What's the Will becoming, /lit/?
Being or non-being?

If the Will's becoming being then it means that the Will doesn't exist and wants to be.
If the Will's becoming non-being then it means that the Will exists and wants not to be.

I know nothing because I can't answer that question.
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>>9267273
Who gives a shit
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>>9267298
Who gives a shit about what?
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It's funny, as I was watching my friend play a video game the other day, an idea came to me. Watching him play this game, and being so devoutly interested in everything he did or saw in the game, I was astounded by how bad the game was. The setting, locations, interactions with characters; none of it was plausible or very resembling of reality. Yet he said the game was great for its immersion. Now the only thing that had remained which was in anyway immersive to me was the very sharp, clear, and well lighted graphics of the game. The frame rate was high and everything rendered fluidly onto screen and into sight when approached and studied. So in that sense, yes it was very immersive. Witnessing this was when the idea found me. Because, I realized, just because the game looked great for my friend it was enough to allow him to lose himself within it. This had me then thinking on the nature of being. My friend had looked into a few aspects about the game until he found that the good graphics and play style of the game was all he needed to lose himself in the game and enjoy his experience. And is that not much like our very own existence? See, that is what watching him made me ask myself. The extent of his enjoyment from the game was simply those very two solid footholds that he could put himself onto. Just the two. Yet, when I came to think about the nature of my very own existence, I found that I could only find one. And far beyond all and everything in the world, the one thing that I found I had to confirm my being is the fact that I am. Everything beyond that, I realized, was an afterthought. Literally. Those two solid footholds he had are two very nonexistent forms of stimulant to another who does not even know of the existence of video games. Yet those two footholds were enough to take his mind away and bring him into existence. And it was there I found the answer to your question. There is no will to be. Only being. Will to be comes only after being, not before it. It is a product of your being.

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Is it any good?

Just finished the second volume, wasn't as instantly enthralled with it like the first, but still had some really enjoyable sections, is it worth continuing?
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Two is the best by far. If you didn't like it quit now. Three is the worst book in the series by far. And four and five are almost horrible.
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>>9267195
Damn, I wouldn't say I 'disliked' 2, its just that from page one of the first volume I was hooked, 2 took a little more time to grab me, what happens in the next few that makes them so much worse?
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>>9267263
You seem to have shit taste, you might like book three the most.
There's just a drastic shift in tone. He doesn't even seem like the same writer, nor the same person in three four or five. The insight isn't there, the characters aren't as interesting or as fun. Book four should be called "I keep cumming too fast, or, Am I a Pedo".
He took some heat from family members after the first two books, I'm not sure if that subconsciously handcuffed him or what.

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>tfw reading communist Manifesto
>tfw Marx was actually warning the bourgeosie that, if they kept on opressing the proles, tjey would revolt and bourgeosie would eventually crumble, so the proles should get better living conditions

Marx is truly the greatest capitalist hero
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Why cant I have those based beard genetics
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>>9267299
No Rabbi genetics
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>>9267180
Not only that. It teach the bourgeoise where their wealth comes fro. Thats why many zillonaries are Marxists, like Warren Buffet.

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How much do translators charge for translation? I mean from spanish to english. Its 24 euros a page a fair amount?
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>>9266853
It entirely depends on the quality of translation you are looking for. Pay peanuts get monkeys
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>>9266853
Why when google translator is here. You dont have an idea how much they improved it
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>>9266853
Sounds cheap if youre a millionaire

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with all your /lit/ and philosophical knowledge, how would you raise your son?
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fermented 10 seconds in my socks
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>>9266678
>having children
I'm not that immoral, anon
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>can pronounce v's and w's perfectly with my inner voice when reading a book
>can't pronounce it when speaking it aloud
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Hello Rajeet!
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>>9266555
I'm from Transylvania and when my family moved to America people would make fun of me for doing this exact same thing.
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>>9266564
Is cute

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