Why does it seem like Literature is so seperated from the rest of the Arts?
When one mentions an Artist, people rarely think of a writer. It would not be out of place to find a "School for the Arts" that has no writing program.
Poetry gets close, but still, seperated without the stage performance addition of slam poetry.
>>9288165
If you say "artist" everyone will think about visual arts
If you're a musician, a movie director/actor or an architect and you call yourself "artist" everyone (people on /lit/ incouded) will call you pretentious
>>9288176
Musicians and actors get called artists all the fucking time, don't know what you're on about.
Architect I'll agree, no one calls them artists, but what people think Architects do is actually what Blueprint Engineers do
>>9288165
>tfw I want to be an artist but I'm only good at writing
I don't want you to reply to this thread, anons. I just want you to know. Communism destroyed my country and killed many intellectuals. Some, on the contrary, were communists, but they didn't live to see the regime that would destroy their motherland. Do not let yourselves be subverted.
>>9288117
>he thinks that revolutions can be peaceful, even when you're trying to subverse something as antiquated as a feudal state
Those damn frenchmen and their bloody revolution, amirite?
State capitalism is totally communism
>>9288135
Are you suggesting that the French revolution was good? Millions of dead Frenchmen would disagree with you.
Thoughts on Samuel Beckett? Is he the most blackpilled writer of the 20th century?
hes cool
>>9288205
A deeply deep discussion.
>>9288217
vague questions receive vague answers
Are there any systematic efforts to organize real life /lit/ meetups? How do I meet /lit/ posters close to me?
>>9288004
Pls b in Glasgow
>>9288007
Sorry, I'm in San Francisco (California).
Don't take this the wrong way but I'd never want to meet up with any of you people IRL
Sometimes it is not important that you laugh, but the fact that you laughed
>>9287992
re-work the first part-- it seems to come from the perspective of a comic, whose bread and butter is laughter; whereas the second part seems addressed to someone who perhaps takes life far too seriously, and needs to lighten up..
It lacks harmony of intention.
>>9287992
Sometimes it's not that you laughed, but the fact that you laughed.
The bugbear's 'important' -get rid of it.
What do you think of his work?
Harold Bloom says he is garbage.
Harold Bloom is the law.
It's interesting how the grammar hasn't aged that much over the time period, compared to other European languages
>>9288068
Its more interesting why as a whole Western Europe decided to remove all their grammatical cases.
how much puss do you think he crushes?
anyone sat through his YouTube courses? what you sayin? they any good? or is he a shill
>Brandon Sanderson is balls deep in an autistic qt making Mormon babies as we speak
idk how to feel about this
Exactly four (4) puss.
Any good books about serfs? Seems like it would be max comfy but all old lit is just about royalfags. The closest thing I can find is Steinbeck but the time period/continent isn't right at all.
I'd also be game for reading a book about traveling European merchants (not maritime).
>>9287978
Try uh, Jacques le Goff on time and work in the Middle Ages, maybe also try Georges Duby.
Try also uhhhhh Emmanuel le Roy Ladurie, both "Paysans de Languedoc" and "Montaillou"
Also Marc Bloch's Feudal Society, and his French Rural History, both his most famous works though the former is more synthetic and the latter more for its methodological groundbreaking (which was inspirational for the above dudes)
All of these guys are Annalistes (historians of the French "Annales school"), sometimes called New History or "history from the bottom up" in France, basically the era of social-economic historiography that displaced the older narratives of top-level politics and kings and all that. That's a simplification, but it works.
In England and Germany things are a bit harder. England took a lot longer to transition to that style of history, famously associated with the Marxist EP Thompson in the 60s and 70s. Even then, for medieval stuff, legal history is much more prominent (Maitland etc.) I think. In Germany, you get a weird mixture of volkisch history and then a LOT of focus on magisterial and legal history (I think). Of course there are exceptions, but France is probably your best bet for specifically rural history.
Maybe also look at Natalie Zemon Davis, her general stuff from the 70s (which is collected in an anthology somewhere) but particularly her book on Martin Guerre and Ginzburg's book on Menocchio
>>9288010
I can read French and don't give a fuck about England if it helps
Off of what website do you pirate your ebooks? I'm totally new to this. How do I get these books onto my kindle?
>>9288091
/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.
You get no answer for not reading the sticky, fuckface.
Library genesis
>>9287928
This has pretty much anything you'll want http://libgen.io/
What makes something scary?inB4 "drr the unkown)
>question
>inb4 the answer
>>9287910
I read an account a doctor had in the 1800's of a woman that had a panic attack because of a horror novel she read. It was apparently the first "jump scare" in written history. Imagine it, being such a pussy that you get jump scared by words, lmao
>>9287954There's a skeleton inside you.
What are some /lit/ tier musicians?
Cohen and Bob Dylan come to mind
lou reed
https://youtu.be/XzotawVmmVc
>>9287868
if you like Cohen, I recommend checking out Warren Zevon and Randy Newman (yes the toy story guy). Better known musicians like Tom Waits and Nick Cave also kind of fall into this category of americana/blues/folk/rock stuff.
I cant place it at ll anyone here recognize it?
>>9287814
I forget what it's called but it was a simple civil ware cipher. I don't really know this but I swear I remember reading about it in some "kodes for kids" type book when I was a little guy.
>>9287838
Ohh that's right it's called Pigpen cipher.
>>9287814
Some kind of futhark
What comes after death?
More death
>>9287862
Oh shit
>>9287853
Funeral
INs are the writers. The rest of you are our audience and when you try to write it is cringeworthy. It is time to listen, and not speak plebs. Your endless struggle and striving for knowledge is the place we live intuitively.
>>9287657
>The Counselor
I feel more like the patient desu
>>9287657
I'm an "IN" and I'm always suffering because of my constant persuit of knowledge and truth
>>9287657
MBTI is a terrible model of personalities, but you're getting at is a real phenomenon. When people with certain personality types try to write, it's as awkward as normies trying to start memes.
Does anyone understand what this means?
pic unrelated.
Atlas was a poet and came home with a back-ache.
His painted wife greeted: “But you’re so early, my dearest!”, an earnest smile of amusement upon the moonlike curve of her chin.
“That’s right”, said Atlas, while rubbing her shoulders; and did not bother to think (of abysses and annoyance).
“Why?”, she said, enquiring and with staggering honesty.
Just like a clockwork, he decided to ignore the timbre of her voice. “My back hurts, honey”, while massaging the amphibious surface of her skin.
“Oh but why my dear?”
Atlas hands stopped abruptly.
“I wrote a great poem today.”
She turned, both dutifully and non-expectant. “Yes?”
“Would you like to hear it?”
A most polished nod, impeccably polite.
“Do you think I don’t see you, my love?”, asked the poet.
She sighed, “You see me, my dear, you see me well.”
“I do see you, and we will go, will we go I and you”, coughed: “my love.”
She shrugged, “Where?”
He nodded, “A multicoloured land.”
“But where?”
“I and you, we will go.”
As expected, she drew a smile of contempt.
Atlas was a petty poet and his body felt spiritual pain. “I have a back-ache. Would you mind?”
She rose from her comfy patrician cushioned chair. “Oh but my love! Let me see…”, and laid a rough hand on his shoulder.
“There”, an elderly exhale of minor pleasure and content, “There.”.
Her fingers felt like prisoners “But where will we go?”, moving and curving and feeling the knots of his tired selfless wordy love, “…I and you?”.
He reassured “We will go,” a blank face, “very soon”.
>>9287629
I don't know what it means, but I was expecting him to shrug at some point.
>>9287629
It was poorly written, that's for sure
i think i understood it but it seems mean and narcissistic.
basically "the poet" aka author's self insert, says he loves his woman but is struggling with his physical limitations in actually doign so (he refers to his back but means his soul's center and body, aka use of his mind/self). He would probably dramaticize it by saying it's stressed by a weight on his shoulders, hence the name atlas.
He can't promise the woman anything so he basically just lies to her because she's apparently very dumb by telling her that they'll go somewhere aka death instead of giving a straight answer.
i dunno he seems kinda autistic? maybe's she's playing him?