1. Gilgamesh
2. Iliad by Homer
3. Odyssey by Homer
4. Metamorphosis by Ovid
5. Aeneid by Virgil
6. The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
7. Paradise Lost by John Milton
>>9343574
6, 2, 3, 7, 5, 4, 1
t. confused about my own epic loyalties
Beowulf.
>>9343589
Fuck, that should have been listed. I knew I forgot at least one.
is programming /lit/? Or is it a soulless task and an exponent of late-capitalism/high tech economy?
On a related note, can code have an aesthetic aspect like prose? Is there a code equivalent of purple prose?
> being this autistic
Code is beautiful when its easy to understand while being complex. I dont think it can have aesthetic value.
what are some good fantasy and sci-fi novellas (preferably) and novels? historical stuff is cool too.
i'm looking for design inspo, so anything that inspires vivid images of cool shit or cool world-building is great. stuff like harry potter, lotr, ender's game, dune, etc. - you know what i mean.
>>9343639
generals aren't for SF and fantasy, they're for sperglords to argue about pointless shit that even anime fans don't care about.
I had way too much coffee tonight. Let's bang something out. I'm pretty agreeable as long as you're not stupid. C'mon, let's just make something.
>>9343467
only if we can do it like 5 sentences at a time. and you start.
>>9343472
no i mean like a writing partner
>>9343472
>The first thing he saw
I read everyday, problem is: I'm painfully slow. What tips do you have on reading more efficiently? Doesn't need to be related to the 'slow' part, general tips are good too. Thanks
I have these pills of pure, powdered caffeine. I take one (200mg), break it up and rail it. It's nice.
>>9343397
-Stay focused
-Set time/page goal and stick to it (autism helps)
-Reread pages you weren't paying attention to
-Read in your preferred environment
-Take notes if you like that (I don't)
-Set Finish date goals
-Go to the bathroom and take a piss instead of jerking off
-Take cold/medium showers
-Pray to God
-Get 7 hours sleep on schedule each day
-Don't eat junkfood
-Donate to the poor(homogeneous society only)
-Volunteer for poor(homogeneous society only)
-Spend time contemplating your readings
-Take your dog for a walk
-Tell your mother you love her
-Shower before reading
>>9343645
t. christian pyscho brainlet
>tfw no gf
Let Dr. Jordan Peterson explain why you're a faggot:
Trigger Warning: Neuroscience and other types of real reading ahead. Dr. Peterson isn't concerned with overly-abstracted, sentimentalized self-loathing. Get ready to get sorted.
http://www.jordanbpeterson.com/docs/230/BC%2011%202013%20Peterson%20JB%20Three%20Kinds%20of%20Meaning%20Final.pdf
>>9343387
i would totes let JP fuck the faggot out of me
Can I get a quick rundown? This is a pretty long read.
>>9343415
SORT
Should I read The Atrocity Exhibition?
>>9343343
It's alright. Nothing special.
>>9343361
What do you recommend in the same vein of this book?
>>9343343
absolutely
What is the literary equivalent to the pipe strip?
>>9343085
The pipe strip.
>>9343085
the pipe strip's antithesis
>>9343085
https://fuckthelist.blogspot.pe/2017/03/07271978-now-where-could-my-pipe-be.html
>Warriors, Philosophers, Brothers
Philosophical Fight Club combines the warrior’s cultivation of courage and the philosopher’s pursuit of truth with a brotherly sense of camaraderie.
PFC meets once a week at an undisclosed location in Toronto. Each fight night consists of several kinds of verbal fights, the intention of which is to bring men into conflict with themselves and, by this means, enabling them to discover hard and vital truths about themselves.
PFC is highly selective. Each new candidate is put through a rigorous testing process to determine whether he’s fit to join.
If you’re interested, we’ll take a good, hard look at you.
https://philosophicalfight.club/
This is fucking stupid
>>9343081
I'm OP and I agree. Still though, the language is amazingly un-ironic.
‘A Moral Equivalent of War’
What therefore is, James asked, a “moral equivalent of war,” and what can masculinity be for us today? Honesty demands admitting that we don’t really know what it is while refusing both to go back to manhood before all this, to some fanciful, nostalgic restoration of bygone terms, and to go forward with things as they are: with the choice between sensitive, fragile creatures susceptible to harm and foolish brutes callous and contemptuous of all they encounter. No, a rough and wiser beast, tested by conflict, hardened by contest, hungry for truth, yearns to be born.
That Rough Beast is Philosophical Fight Club
PFC works by turning that war inward. It’s an arena in which we engage in loving combat in search of the truth. A forum where status, position, and wealth are checked at the door in favor of posing dangerous questions whose rough and sharp point is to make us harder, hardier, tougher. A ruthless fight in words, punching into the bowels of life and death and terror. A home for the level-headed yet passionate exploration of masculinity that’s not just livable but actually lived in our time. It’s full-blooded without being bloody, forceful yet not cruel, a shout pressing you to stand up for yourself in lieu of limply tapping out.
Through the brotherhood of PFC, we rediscover that masculine power within us, transforming it into truthful speech expressing bigger, vaster life.
Are you ready to fight for the truth?
>>9343075
ya sounds like you're trying to attract potential victims to participate in a homosexual snuff film buddy
What's the best font for reading?
The ubuntu font, senpai. It has a unique, custom designed font that has a very distinctive look and feel.
>>9342957
Baskerville is my personal favorite
>>9342957
For a free serif, look up Charter (aka Bitstream Charter)
Sans serif: fira sans
Monospace: source code pro
What non-fiction should I read to learn about the world and how it works?
In other words, I've only really ever read fiction/poetry, and have realized that I need to supplement this with more non-fiction. Any recommendations will help.
World History.
>>9342901
>What non-fiction should I read to learn about the world and how it works?
All of it? What about the world in particular are you interested in?
>>9342901
Extortion, Peter Schwietzer
Is it feasible to study philosophy starting with Wittgenstein?
Yes, go on. You'll surely succeed.
>>9342854
>Is it feasible to study mathematics starting with algebraic topology?
>>9342854
Wittgenstein is really not that difficult
Ch III: Unity and Division Within Appearances
>Within this blind struggle each commodity, following where passion leads, unconsciously actualizes something of a higher order than itself: the commodity's becoming worldly coincides with the world's being transformed into commodities. So it is that, thanks to the cunning of the commodity, whereas all particular commodities wear themselves out in thefight,thecommodityasabstractform continues onitswaytoabsoluteself-realization.
What does he mean by the abstract form of the commodity, and how does this relate to unity and division in the sphere of social life? It makes sense that the form of a commodity would evolve to encompass the momentum of growth, production, and distribution, but how exactly this ties into the general theme of lived life being superseded by appearances is unclear to me. Thoughts?
I've never read anything buy Debord but he probably means that material conditions determine social phenomenae
It's possible that his reference to abstraction could simply means the concept of branding, the magical essence of the Nike swoosh or Apple logo that exceeds any particular pair of shoes or laptop, and which subsequently comes to say something about the owner as bearer of the sign rather than as simple owner of a given pair of shoes or a given computer. I don't know for certain, but that's one possibility.
As for the general theme of lived life being superseded by appearances, this was all developed by Baudrillard and others. Signs possess symbolic value and confer them upon their owners. Look at Floyd Mayweather. He's rich, but what matters to him is that he's constantly displaying this wealth (which usually takes the form of branded sports cars, fashion, and so on). Baudrillard went to the extremes in trying to reduce everything to appearances in thsi way, but to me at least I think Debord can be said to be doing the same.
Debord writes
>Society in its length and breadth becomes capital's faithful portrait.
He's simply describing the consumer society. We're used to it today, we grow up in it and believe, generally speaking, that it's not about to end. It's possible that some of the shock with which these authors write and describe proceeds from having come from a period of comparative scarcity (and a substantially different society).
A consumer society runs on its own logic of consumption and advertisement, with needs creating more needs. By 'spectacle' I take him to mean, essentially, ideology, the constructed event of advertising and the effect this has on our perceptions. It's sort of like Marshall McLuhan with a strong Marxist, rather than Catholic, influence.
>The spectacle corresponds to the historical moment at which the commodity completes its colonization of social life. It is not just that the relationship to commodities is now plain to see - commodities are now all that there is to see; the world we see is the world of the commodity.
>>9342792
poor translation
What would be the nicest edition of whitman's poems or leaves of grass to buy? Should I get the complete poems or just leaves of grass? If you know a really nice edition, or one which would be widely considered the superior edition, please let me know.
>>9342598
I have the International Collector's Library edition. its nice.
>>9342612
>International Collector's Library
Of what? The complete poems or leaves of grass?
Did no one in the Marxist thread answer your question?
Who are some of /lit/'s favorite /lit/-related youtubers?
I like Styxhexenhammer666
>>9342548
Katielovesclassicbooks
Serraphina M
Carliclaire
Polandbananabooks HOTTEST
Abookutopia HOTTEST
>>9342548
>Styxhexenhammer666
Should be added to this list to be honest.
>>9342560
all of those girls are fugly