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Friendly reminder that if you use apostrophes where inappropriate, you're uneducated trash and should your middle school teacher to help you kill yourself.

>>9355214
Friendly reminder that if you think this is an umlaut, you're uneducated trash and should ask your middle school teacher to help you kill yourself.

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amen

>>9355168
Is this book good? Saw it in the library and apparently barnes and nobel gave it 6/5 stars whatever that means

>>9355168
Dorian gray (minus the bisexuality).

I'm pretty similar to the underground man.

Anyone?

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>>9355135
Im also interested in this

Please? Or you're too busy playing elitist, pretensious fucks who read only philosophy, and everyone who reads anything else is lowest of the low, or just above someone who doesn't read at all, like usual?

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Science fiction books can't match the visual impact of something like Interstellar and 2000AD, or the gross spectacle of mandibles and tentacles of Alien, Predator, etc.

But they can examine human behavior and social psychologies, and play with tensions between interesting ideas, in a way that movies can only do superficially. At least, this is what a lot of high-minded literary SF tries to do.

There are still plenty of adventure tales and rollicking space operas as well, to rival the likes of Star Wars. This has been going on for a hundred years, since Edgar Rice Burroughs. So there's no shortage of escapist thrills either.

Maybe the problem is you don't know where to look.

>>9355122
>What the hell is wrong with this genre?
SF fans will buy anything with a neat premise, and most don't know enough to tell good prose from bad (or just don't care). Also the people editing and commisioning books are themselves fans, so they only think about SF books in terms of other SF, not actual science - Redshirts won a major award just for being a parody of Star Trek, and Ready Player One is popular despite being a nonstop stream of cringeworthy "nerd" references.

>And I’m not going to enter in universes like ‘Star Wars’, for example, which demand an imagination of a wide spectrum from the writer.
Could you clarify what this sentence means?

>Can, someone, drop some suggestions for real good science fiction?
Philip K. Dick. Mieville's Embassytown. Watts' Blindsight.

>>9355250
>>9355259

Well, sure, with visual, things are way easier to achieve. Sometimes you don’t even need to create a narrative since the visual per se helps to develop an idea of the world being portrait and you get immersed on it. But, nonetheless, from my explorations, it seems something is really lacking on this genre. Star Wars, for example… If you strip Star Wars from its futuristic narrative / looks, its story is about common things of everyday: ambition; revenge; desire to have power; etc. These are common themes. But they managed to create a world around all those themes and cloth it something interesting: multiple worlds with diverse characteristics; etc. And cinema is not the only place where you can get interesting science fiction: cinema; video games; and animation for example, we can pretty much find more interesting things than the ones being published. Those things have scripts; are based on a corpus of text, which means they could had been books. If they had been books originally, they had been more interesting than all things he have on those top science fiction books lists, for example.

Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

>>9355109
Lattimore's translation is on LibGen. You should kill yourself for buying books.

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>/lit/ says to get Lattimore or Fangles
>got WHD Rouse and Riev translations for Illiad and Oddessey
I'm too powerful for this board

>>9355578
I enjoyed the rouse translation.

Cute ear? Does Murakami have a thing for ears?

>>9355118
Cute ears attatched to fat and crazy women.

you forgot all those missing cats

>Orwell
>One of the "greats"
You shouldn't be writing.

>>9355071
Well, I don't know. I just put random names. He is pretty good though, at least as an essayist.

>>9355068
You are your own worst critic, but if you keep comparing instead of mimicking, like an artist does, you just aren't going to make it.
Admit you're a hobbyist or get over it.

>>9355071
You shouldn't be posting

I liked all of his war stories and his war diaries, but his sci fi stuff is a bit too lightheaded I think. On the marble cliffs is great.

>>9355025
Dunhill and champagne, not Gauloises and red wine, okay?

>>9355080

Camels and rum, not dunhill and champagne, OK? Bourgie scum is not my style. Praise pirate life.

>character is supposed to be dumb
>has a better vocabulary than most of the people you know irl

>>9354960
>Today anon learned what a litotes is!

>>9354960
>what is a litotes

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>>9354953

0/12

I promised myself I would read at least 10 pages today but I haven't even opened a book yet

>>9354963
Come on anon, you can do it. You'll be done with 10 pages before you know it, and you'll have some (yous) to come back to later

>>9354953
32/5

castration

>living a lifestyle
kys yourself

>>9354739

>Drugs (particularly opiates, bonus points for raw opium, minus points for synthetic opioids)
>Mental illness (particularly bipolar disorder)
>Promiscuity
>A loft apartment, preferably small
>Tuberculosis
>Brief and intense romantic trysts
>Poverty

Reading is optional but not encouraged.

>>9354715
The curious life of benjamin button

>>9354723
Not a novel.

>>9354715
Few times been around that track so it's not just gonna happen like that

Read Genesis, Exodus and Joshua first to understand how much of a joke it is to treat the Bible as the word of God. Then skip to the good stuff like Ecclesiastes, Jonah, and the NT.

>>9354676
In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of some phony god's blessing, but because I am enlightened by my own intelligence.

>>9354661
or jsut like any book... read it from beginning to end all the way through.

you need to be over 18 to post here

>>9354625

You didnt read it. I can tell.

The heros in atlas shrugged all genuinely cared for, helped, or even loved, lots of people. The villains pretended to care about everyone but actually loathed everyone.

The straw that broke henry reardens back was when a black lives matter protest shot a government assigned diversity overseer who had been slowly becoming redpilled while working in his foundry. He stumbled down a ditch in the dark to get him where he had fallen and carried him up the hill in the dark, while protestors looted shit and attacked people. The guy died in his arms and mr rearden died to the world. He no longer gave a fuck. He shut down his extremely successful businesses and he went to live in the woods.

>>9354675

"Not caring about others" was never part of Rand's ideology, I don't understand why everyone says that. It's more like "you should only care about the people you want to care about." That is, the care is voluntary. Of course you're going to care for your child, or your family. But you probably aren't going to care much about someone who lives five towns over and you shouldn't be forced to.

>>9354539
Moi

les symbolistes.

/fil

>>9354551
Donne-moi un petit goût de ton œuvre, cher Anon.