What's the point of appreciating this planet and our time on it if all memory of it is going to be wiped away when we die?
Why do you have to remember something for it to worth experiencing? You've probably already forgotten most of the good times you ever had, if you've had very many.
>>9420172
this, basically. barring some ideological safeguard, you can basically break anything down to meaninglessness. and yet these things hold meaning to us while we are experiencing them just the same. there's no sense in overintellectualizing it—just roll with it.
What the fuck else am I going to do? Sit and mope like satire and french new wave. Nah, nah.
Gimme books about losing oneself in the process of attaining something /lit/
Not a book about dying ofc
>>9420075
Moby Dick
/thread
>>9420081
You can't /thread yourself faggot. Let me do it for you.
/thread
>>9420075
The Old Man and the Sea.
Do you think she knows her writing is shit?
Be honest, dış you think it was shut when you were 12?
>>9420033
it didn't have enough dragons, desu. dragonlamce housed my mind for a while after i read the first three books. by the fourth i was checked out.
The first three books were best because the books stood on their own for the most part and were about "Harry going back to school" rather than "Harry fights a war."
What are your favourite primary sources re: [especially 20th century] military campaigns? The best accounts from all sides, tour diaries and the like
Particularly interesting/underrepresented campaigns (i.e. Rhodesia) especially encouraged
>>9419910
Reddit, you all are actually getting unironically boring. This is absurd. Most of us live a post-ironic life so you all don't have any material to fuck with, leaving you with "hurr durr loner". This invariably falls short of your expectations because its simply inconceivable to you that a person would live an ascetic literary lifestyle.
You all are unoriginal and your insults are boring and ineffective, that is why you are unsuccessful.
>>9419962
t-thanks for the bump?
>>9419910
St Helena memorial
>Napoleon's Memoirs on life and battles
Are these fuckers actually this daft?
>>9419883
what is Bookshelf
>>9419883
Is this like MAL, but for books?
>>9420116
It's an online bookstore/reading service.
My university uses it for the textbooks.
>tfw "u cannot know nuffin" is the only argument against the non existence of free will
I mean, sure. You can't really know something metaphysical. You can't be conclusive about it. You can just guess.
>Is God real?
>When did reality begin?
>What came before that?
>Do we have free will?
Your guess is as good as mine.
>>9419781
Poor Pepe. Is that beer or pee?
>>9419804
>Do we have free will?
The science is leaning pretty heavily towards no.
>u cannot know nuffin
You can say this about literally anything.
If you throw a ball upwards will it return to you?
>u cannot know nuffin
Why didn't DFW just write fantasy and sci-fi?
Motherfucker was so obsessed with "sincerity," with a reaction against postmodernism and irony. But that's exactly what the speculative fiction genres are. They all spring from Tolkien, who is sincere, much more sincere than Wallace ever was. Subsequent writers have carried that core of sincerity forward, whether to elevate it (like Wolfe and LeGuin) or to make it cheap (like Jordan). There are a few postmodern shitters that slum around the genres, like Moorcock, but overall both fantasy and science fiction remain extremely sincere fields of writing.
And even if you go back in time, to the forefathers of the genres, guys like Edgar Rice Burroughs and Robert E. Howard, they're all fairly sincere. Some of them are nihilistic--Howard certainly was--but it was a sincere nihilism.
And even if you think about Infinite Jest, there's an argument to be made that it's science fiction. It certainly has elements of cyberpunk in it.
So why didn't DFW just fucking write epic fantasy? I think he would have been happier.
>>9419757
but he did.
>>9419757
because there's a stigma attached to it and his academic clique buddies wouldn't read SFF
Think of how many amateur or wannabe writers you know. Now how many of them are writing SFF as their first novel?
>>9419757
>Motherfucker was so obsessed with "sincerity," with a reaction against postmodernism and irony
He made 1 quote in an interview and wrote 1 essay everyone misinterprets, and yeah it's a part of IJ but only a small one.
It's just his obnoxious fans that exaggerate the "le sincere saint" shit.
>when does this get good?
I am on chapter four of pic related. It's kinda funny but does it ever become more than just insane conversations?
>>9419696
shamelessly samefagging here but I forgot to mention that I really appreciate how beats this novel is. it's written like Heller is shouting at you
>points for style
Things will make more sense. Later chapters fill in details that are missing at the beginning. Events are presented out of chronological order.
Things that were funny or non-sensical turn out to be some grim shit.
>>9419696
The initial goofiness is there to lull you into a false sense of security to some extent. I only got about halfway through before putting it down to read other stuff and not picking it back up yet, but basically a lot of the wackiness belies an underbelly of genuine desperation and despair.
I don't think it's anywhere near as great as its reputation indicates it is, but there's more to it than silly conversations and paradox gags.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliupersis
Why is it called that —to what is the word "persis" referring?
>>9419670
>πέρθω
>to sack
>>9419871
Hey, thanks. What website is that?
>>9419893
It's in the word's definition :^)
Hello /lit/, newfag here. What books should I read in order to gain a solid foundation in philosophy?
Fug off, pseud.
>>9419655
fuck off, frogshitter
Wittgenstein is all you need
What newspapers and magazines do you read?
>>9419634
/pol/, Daily Stormer, the list could go on...
>>9419642
ironic /pol/-posting is the worst kind of posting in /lit/ right now
can't you guys be sincere for once?
NY review of books, new criterion, first things
Is this actually trash (by fantasy standards), or is it just shit on a lot because it's so popular (more exposure)?
Is there any contemporary fantasy in this vein that's worth a read?
It's a good book, solid prose, but it's major flaw is that it lacks a proper narrative structure and the MC is a bit of a Mary Sue. Nevertheless, It was an enjoyable read in my opinion.
Its easy to read and doesn't require a lot of thought to understand. Thats probably why its so popular. However the plot is boring and the world itself is bland. The protagonist is an annoying faggot. Patrick Rothfuss books belong in the trash.
>>9419664
But muh sex ninjas!
Does marijuana help people write?
>Yuh ofcors dode!
>>9419594
No, but it certainly helps you wrong
>>9419594
Not me, and I certainly can't read much either. I get lost into every other sentence and forget what i just read.
Can you help a newfag out?
I barely read and would love to get started in literature, is the /lits/ top 100 a good place to start ?
>>9419567
just read whatever dude
Absolutely not.
Start with Shakespeare.
>>9419567
>is the /lits/ top 100 a good place to start ?
Yes and no, depends on your interests. Don't start anything you're not interested in, you'll never come back.
Are there any concepts or hobbies or anything you're interested in? Maybe we can go from there.
>>9419535
They would have all sucked, anyway.
i tell myself that im reading 'deeply' to feel better about myself
>promise yourself you'll read more and spend less time on 4chan
>read less and spend more time on 4chan