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okay, to reach shakespeare level you need to following:
>Good grasp of grammar
>Good graps of how to make long sentences (compound and uxiliary sentences)
>Really good vocabularty (30k words at least)
>Classical understanding of poetrhy (metric)
>Understanding of how poethry changes depending on the character design speech
>Understanding of theather
>Understanding of storytelling tropes)
>Understanding of character arcs and other storytelling devices, use of multiple plot lines)
>Understanding of classical works (roman and greek)
>Understanding of the basics of philosophy, economy, teology, history
>Read the major sacred holy books and being able to quote them

Did I miss something?
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>>9430637
Ability to play off words/make complex puns
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>>9430673
that goes on the vocabulary part.
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is Shakespeare the goat?

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Beautiful book covers, please. I need a remedy to the poor book covers in the other thread.
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I published an erotica short story collection several months ago on Amazon and sold exactly zero copies, whereas in the past I've at least managed to sell a handful (I had promoted the past ones on a porn Tumblr that has since been shut down).

I enrolled it on Kindle Select when I published it. What else can I do to get some sales?

It is not BDSM or vampires or gay or dinosaur-related, so that's probably my problem.
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Bump.
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>>9430525
Post in related subreddits
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>>9432351
That's an option, I suppose. I really hate the idea of being thrown into an arena where I'm expected to talk about my work.

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What are some easy to read novels and short just to get used to reading again but please no Stephen King and LotR tier books
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Steinbeck
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Hemingway
Orwell
Great Gatsby is a quick read
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>>9430497
>>9430531
I said that I want to get back into reading, not that I have never read a book.

What's your favorite fact about literature that not many people know?
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This photo makes me so angry.
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>>9430451
>When asked "What was Capote doing that you didn't like?" Vidal shouted: "Lying! The one thing I hate most on this earth. Which is why I do not have a friendly time with journalists." He called Capote's death "a good career move" and added "Every generation gets the Tiny Tim it deserves."

>Vidal was a frequent critic of the writings of John Updike, complaining that the author of the Rabbit series “describes to no purpose”. Vidal also told The Partisan Review: "With me the problem is that Updike doesn’t write about anything that interests me. I am not concerned with middle-class suburban couples. On the other hand, I’m not concerned with adultery in the French provinces either. Yet Flaubert commands my attention. I don’t know why Updike doesn’t." He was more explicit in later life, saying: "I can't stand Updike. Nobody will think to ask because I'm supposedly jealous; but I out-sell him. I'm more popular than he is, and I don't take him very seriously... oh, he comes on like the worker's son, like a modern-day DH Lawrence, but he's just another boring little middle-class boy hustling his way to the top if he can do it."

>Norman Mailer once punched Vidal at a party after the writer had given him a bad review. Still on the floor, Vidal declared: "Once again, words fail Norman Mailer." Their lengthy literary feud continued and Mailer also reportedly headbutted Vidal before an appearance on the Dick Cavett TV show, after Vidal compared him to infamous killer Charles Manson. When Mailer once said that "Vidal lacks the wound" (a reference to his privileged upbringing), Vidal snapped: "Privileged? You mean more privileged than a fat boy from South Africa with a doting mother?"

>When Watership Down,author Richard Adams, on That Was The Week That Was, called Vidal's work "meretricious", Vidal shot back: "Really? Well, meretricious to you and a happy new year."

>Vidal said of John Simon: “English is his third language and some of us were thinking about getting up a fund and sending him back to Berlitz for the remainder of the English language course.”

>"As far as I'm concerned," Vidal told him, "the only sort of pro- or crypto-Nazi I can think of is yourself." "Now listen, you queer," Buckley replied. "Stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I'll sock you in your goddamn face and you'll stay plastered . . . I was in the infantry in the last war." "You were not," Vidal replied. "I was." "You were not."

>When asked later 'Where is your friend Mr Buckley?”, the writer feigned surprise before replying: “Oh, Buckley. He’s over at the Wallace headquarters stitching hoods”.

Gore Vidal quotes
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are blacks actually this fucking retarded

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Wassup /lit

I haven't cried in years. I want to read a book that will devastate me. Any recommendations?
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Peter Ward - A new history of life
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>>9430430
Crying over books is triggered by a range of things, many personal. If you feel empathy with characters and can read sentimentally (ie without constantly critiquing the work) pic related ought to do it.

I cried at the end of Love in the Time of Cholera and Kiplings Kim, and when i was very young I cried during Pet Semetary.
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The Pearl. Most any Steinbeck should destroy you at some point but that one's a short one.

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Bought these two to impress people gazing at my bookcase. Actually found time to read one, which one /lit/? I'll be flipping the other's pages cover to cover a few times to make it look read just in case tho
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They're both shit why don't you just read war and peace that way you won't be wasting your time.
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>>9430416
>read that slave rapist i love plz
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>>9430422
I genuinely believe that the whole slave rapist thing is posted by one single uber-triggered dosto-fag

Admit it, Lev's the better writer.

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where do i start if i wanna learn ((mysticism))
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>>9430339
What kind of mysticism? Hindu mysticism? Buddhist mysticism? Jewish mysticism? Christian mysticism? Gnosticism? Theosophy?
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>>9430339

Bible and Koran then the U.S. Tax codes.
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>>9430397
>no kabbalah
you sir.

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Hey start with the greeks fags I got a question.

How mutch influence did heraclitus have on socrates and does the conflict of opposites have any relation with dialectics/dialogue?
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>>9430281
How could we even estimate the influence of Heraclitus on Socrates (other than mere speculation), when we don't have any writings of Socrates himself.

At best we have a few indirect sources on the ideas of Socrates. The main source remains Plato, but it is uncertain which ideas are actually Socrates's and which are Plato's. But the influence of Heraclitus on Plato is quite established, as Plato's allegory is a perfect reconciliation of Parmenides with Heraclitus.
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>>9430584
Socrates is nothing but Plato's strawman

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I'm going to be doing a lot of traveling in the near future and won't be able to bring many books with me. What is the best device for reading ebooks?
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>>9430271
Kindle Paperwhite or Kobo Aura H20. Both will steal your personal information if you connect them to wifi, both are well made, both can read any book you want with calibre, which you will use anyways and can set to 1-click transfer.

I have a 2012 kindle touch 2, and it is the most hardy, well used piece of electronics I ever bought, if you can find one used or mint in the box i suggest that one too (i dont like backlight)
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>>9430271
>i dont like backlight

Why exactly? I would have assumed that was a useful addition in later models?
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>>9430441
personal preference, if I buy a kindle its for the paper quality, the backlight annoys me. i would rather read under a soft lamp light.

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I need novels about female sexual desire.....for a number of reasons.

I'd really appreciate some recomendations.

serious novels only please....no "50 shades...." tier trash
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>I need novels about female sexual desire
>serious novels only
>no "50 shades...." tier trash
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>>9430215
my thoughts exactly

Are there living worthwhile "right wing" theorists or philosophers except pic related (just remembered he is still alive...)?

I'm serious, not a bait thread. Please don't hit my with pseuds like Peterson. Land is not a right winger in any traditional sense of the word, if we define it as caring about values, traditions, continuinity and decency. Of course, you could argue that this definition no longer applies since, paradoxically, a modern "right wing" icon like Land is striving to destroy all traditions, values and continuinity while a "leftist" like Zizek is constantly appealing to good old fashioned Sittlichkeit.

I'm alright with catholics like Edward Feser, his refutation of pop atheists like Dawkins etc. looks interesting, although I would probably just nod and agree a bunch.

For the record, I don't think there's more than one or two handful worthwhile leftist theorists/philosophers alive right now.
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>>9429973
>Sloterdijk
>right-wing
Maybe, but he does his darndest to hide his power level. One of his former postdocs is a high ranking AfD functionary though.

In France, there's Benoist on the far right. I'm not familiar but Finkielkraut might also be relevant. The guy is an anti-multiculturalist.
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>>9429973
Alsadair MacIntyre, James Schall, David Oderberg.
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>>9430027
I dunno, Slotterdijk spergs out like once a year and says some controversial shit to feed the bourgeois feuilleton for a few weeks.

I've heard Benoists name before but i'm not familiar, he looks interesting from his wiki article.

>>9430046
Haven't heard of any of these, will check, thanks. Seems like they are all catholic moral philosophers?

How does /lit/ feel about PG Wodehouse?
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Probably my favorite writer.
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mah nigga
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Utter trash

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Is he an amazing storyteller or a pulp writer? Opinions seem to be incredibly far split on him as an author.

Which books of his have you read and how did you like them?
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>>9429841
His short stories are pretty good. IT was good character development, and a pretty harrowing tale. Misery was nice and claustrophobic. Haven't read anything else by him at length though. Tbh the people who shit on him have probably never read him. Is he literary? No. Is he a good story teller? Hell yes.
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I've read about 12 or so of his books. After a while you start to recognize his tropes and to predict the plot 100 pages early.
It's been many years but I remember that I most enjoyed his non-horror work. Eyes of the dragon was pretty good and The Long Walk was outright brilliant. In contrast though, I hated Dark Tower even though I think I read the first 3 books.
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I think he is a fantastic writer and story teller, it's just that for the most part I don't like the stories he writes. I wish he would move away from horror. 11.22.63 was one of my favorite books of the last couple of years. I really enjoy his writing style but horror just isn't my genre.

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Let's suppose you had no sense of pride or artistic integrity.

How would you write a crowdpleaser, /lit/?

A real bestselling pageturner that keeps the pot boiling and makes a good living out of entertaining people and making something of yourself, etc.
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>>9429758

Write explicitly about sex or about 13 year olds and whatever you do, don't try to do both simultaneously.
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>>9429758

transgender black refugee with drug addiction problems fights against evil nazi-like government (whose leader is curiously orange) with a band of pot-smoking fat women, dreadlock wearing anorexic teens, mute white boys who willingly offer themselves as literal meat shilds (they have handlers on their back), and bronies.
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A young, emotionally confused girl from the city meets a slightly older, attractive boy and falls in love with him
they share a few troubled but intense weeks before he disappears
~180 pages, some idiotic cover

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