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I fucking love this book.

Which authors have continued Hegel's arguments or responded to the arguments in this book? I am reading One Dimensional Man and the Hegel influence seems pretty big, what else can I read to now?
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Start with the Greeks
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Rudolf von Jhering's "struggle for law" could be considered a response, but he makes a case for his own philosophy of law as a means to an end, hegel was already regarded as absurdist anomaly by then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_von_Jhering
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To put the question in another way: can I read a book that either agrees or disagrees with Hegel and attempts to apply Hegel's arguments to our modern state?

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Hey /lit/, I want to read "The Brothers Karamazov" since my dad loves talking about it and references it a lot. The problem is that I get really bored and confused when trying to read through it, even though the beginning of the book is interesting. I feel like I miss out on many of the details and get surprised when later on, and this doesn't happen in this book only, it happens to other books as well. What's wrong with me /lit/? Am I just a bad reader?
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>>9445689
Naah, great books take some time and dedication to understand. Just read a version with notes and introduction and you're fine.
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>>9445695
I think the vintage version is P&V and has notes

>>9445689
DESU I only got halfway into Brothers K, but i stormed through crime and punishment. You don't need to go through a book like it's a puzzle requiring you to remember everything in case of you're required to solve something later on.
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>tfw I learned cyrillic and now the op image is triggering my autism

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Hi /lit/,
Can you recommend any books about the history of the Mediterranean Sea, both ancient and recent ?
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>>9445672
Empires Of The Sea: The Final Battle For The Mediterranean, 1521-1580 by Roger Crowley
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https://www.google.se/search?q=BRAUDEL+mediteranian&rlz=1C5CHFA_enSE731SE731&oq=BRAUDEL+mediteranian&aqs=chrome..69i57.2952j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=braudel+mediterranean
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>>9445762
>>9445764
Thanks guys, I'll check it out

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>had had
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>>9445611
~ing
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>>9445611
>done did
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>>9445611
>English

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Is it as tedious and shallow as many say it is? What translation would you recommend picking?
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Tedious I get but I've never heard or read anyone call it shallow
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Get the Everyman Edition. Prepare to fall in love with Settembrini. Stay for the Snow chapter. Naphta was a beast. One of my favorite novels -- slow to start like ascending the mountain but once you're an inpatient you'll stay for the duration.
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>>9445559
Nabokov himself dubbed it topical trash.

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Anyone watching/reading handmaid's tale?

isn't the premise of the show basically what Muslim middle eastern countries are like? so why are they using it to make Christians look bad?
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Because Christianity is the hip cool thing to make fun off

and Christians don't go ballistic and behead/bomb/shoot/stone/etc. you if you critizese their religion
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>>9445529
MOHAMMAD WAS A FEMINIST YOU RACIST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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perhaps it's an attempt to covertly criticize without earning any major ire. but what would i know, i've neither read nor seen handmaid's tale.

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What was his fucking problem?
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Read Bloom's "Hamlet: Poem Unlimited" for the answer.
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>>9445499
too long
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>>9445485
Crazy boy

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ITT: We recommend nonfictions
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>>9445479
The god delusion by Richard Dawkins

The Selfish gene by Richard Dawkins

Consciousness explained by Daniel Dennett

Sapiens: a brief history of humankind by Yuval Noah Harari

Capital in the Twenty-First Century by Thomas Piketty

The origin of totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt

Guns of august by Barbara Tuchman

Imagined communities by Benedict Anderson

The invention of tradition by Eric Hobsbawn

Theories of International Politics and Zombies by Daniel Drezner

Dipomacy by Henry Kissinger

World order by Henry Kissinger

The Globalization of World Politics: An Introduction to International Relations by Steve Smith

Singularity is near by Ray Kurzweil
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>>9445479
>>9445481

samefag bait
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Sup
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CyFSvnLnCZ0

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Pitch me your ideas for a young adult novel
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A teenage girl realizes she has fallen in love with someone she has met on an internet message board, but the twist is the board is anonymous. I hope she can still track me down.
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>>9445476
Good for entertaining.
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A (not powerful) girl discovers, through her clever code cracking, that the faceless school bully is infact the disgusting drama teacher (he looks at the young girls for 'a moment to long')

the girl is able to rally all the students, even the cool kids and jocks, into killing the teacher in sometype of ironic way (based on the way he bullied them?)

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What are the best critiques of post modernism that aren't "I don't like what the outcomes of this philosophy is so therefore it's wrong?" Is postmodernism actually wrong, or do people just not like the idea of it being right? Following that, is it worth reading through the ideas of Derrida and the like?
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define post modernism
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Postmodernism does away with right and wrong. It's absurd to speak about it in those terms. If it's right, it's not right.
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>>9445467
I'm talking about the philosophers who are categorized under the name "post modernism"

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What do you think of this book?
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Possibly the greatest in the limited but fascinating genre of the novel-as-an-excuse-to.expose-my-philosophical-thesis

My father had me read it when I was 16 and thought that I was hot shit. It was like a revelation
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>>9445472
Was it the English translation?
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>>9445480
The italian one by Anita Rho, Gabriella Benedetti and Laura Castoldi. I'll bump with more attention whoring since Musil threads are always hard to ignite.
I remember reading the first volume in about four months, and the second in five days. We went skiing with my friends and my girlfriend in the north of the country, and by the second day I had decided to stay indoor all day to read. It was almost like a rapture, I would finish a page, consider that I had understood almost nothing of the ideas exposed and I would get so excited to have found someone so unbelievably intelligent, in my eyes at the time, that I just wanted to read more and more. I remeber one night my friend were discussing some part of Plato we had done in school, and being shocked by the sudden of realization of how banal their discourse was compared to the character's. It made me want to start writing and It made me want to never try to write anything ever, at the same time. When I finished the novel and discovered that it wasn't complete I almost hated Musil. Looking back at it, it's probably the best ending it could have ever got.

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Does lit have a starter chart for nonfiction? I've been reading mostly fiction in the last 4 years and I'm geting bored. I've read some Greek and Roman philosophy in university and that's about it. Recommendations?
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Are you being serious?

What sort of nonfiction are we talking about here?

Philosophy has a linear progression because, relatively speaking, very few people are philosophers compared to writers of fiction or nonfiction.

What sort of nonfiction? Self-help? Political commentary on Neo-Liberal practices? Why Baseball is on the decline? What is the impact of technology on Generation Z?

I suggest you gather a few topics you want to read about and then go from there.
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>>9445375
Isn't there a lit wiki full of chars. I don't know if its still around or any good though
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>>9445375
The god delusion
Das kapital
The Selfish gene
Consciousness explained by daniel dennett
Singularity is near

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>the author uses Oxford commas
>immediately lose all respect and can't push through the rest of the book
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You are a cunt, a faggot, and a turd.

Works pretty well, doesn't it?
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>>9445359
>You are a cunt, a faggot and a turd.
Would've worked equally as well without the Oxford comma, making it superfluous and wasted punctuation.
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>>9445365
Inflections are important, anon.

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>only read books that will make people think I'm intelligent and well-read, only have a surface level knowledge of literature
>choose music based on obscurity and what others will think of me, doesn't matter the quality
>same with films
>do this while making fun of pseuds and Harry Potter readers, who actually manage to develop a connection with literature, unlike me.
I hate myself for being so narcissistic and shallow. Are there any books about fixing this? Some branch of phillosophy that will help me read for myself, not others? Novels that deal with this topic? Noted authors? I really need help on this because I feel like human garbage.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-Q9GHmJGc

fix not guaranteed
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>>9445355
>who actually manage to develop a connection with literature

They develop a connection with cliches, not literature.

Stop reading for image.
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>>9445363
>They develop a connection with cliches, not literature.

all "literature" is derivative

/lit/, your collective consciousness has multiple times displayed its disdain for modern culture and civilization.

So why not just destroy it?

Why not be the Visigoths and Vandals to the modern world's Rome? Take your chances in the Dark Ages that would necessarily follow. And it can be done. It COULD be done. Modern civilization could absolutely be taken down by some retards on an imageboard. So why not do what we all know so many of you would like to do, and work to destroy our present culture?
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calm down a bit
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>>9445286
>Why not be the Visigoths and Vandals to the modern world's Rome?

Because I would get killed by the cops
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>>9445298
Dingdingding

Besides, Plato by way of Socrates already destroyed any justification for self-motivated civil subversion in Crito. Even if you go by Enlightenment-era ideals about justifying revolution, you'd have a hard time painting the modern world, culturally disposed wasteland that it is, as tyrannical.

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