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>be me
>be ugly
/lit/ I need the names of writers or philosophers who address physical ugliness. Already got Houellebecq and Sartre
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>>9492663
> Houellebecq
>cq
france why
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Bukowski
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>>9492681
This.

If you've ever had acne or felt self-conscious about your looks, Ham-On-Rye captures the emotions perfectly.

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Anyone else feel intimidated by their literature professor?

Anon
>shallow knowledge of meme books
>read and re-read an assigned novel and spend days thinking about it to come up with a thorough understanding of it but can only come up with something that is fairly obvious and/or weakly supported by evidence
>struggle to articulate my thoughts - ("The text uhhh, well there is a certain quality to the narrative, or maybe to the style, it's like realistic but it isn't, by which I mean there is a playfulness, is the word that I suppose I would use, to things, where the impossible, or maybe the improbable, happens in content and form, but it isn't really surrealism or something like that, it's kind of avant-garde but not really, if that makes sense.")

Professor
>encyclopaedic knowledge of literature
>casually reads the text one night and effortlessly sees things in it that i would never notice if i read it a hundred times and he can back up all his readings with solid evidence and logical argument
>enormous vocabulary and formidable command of language - ("Right, fabulation.")

Am I gonna make it, brehs?
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>>9492581
That's a good sign, really. The deciding factor is whether you can turn that intimidation into inspiration.
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>>9492581
Most of my lit professors have been female, and I usually feel both intimidated by and attracted to them.

Like there at least three I've had that I would definitely fuck.

The intimidation has faded slightly now that I'm in my final year.
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>>9492588
I'm certainly inspired to improve, but I feel that no matter what I do I will never get to my professor's level.

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How do I stop being a bad reader? I seem incapable of going any deeper than the surface of any story
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>>9492419
read poetry
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Russian formalism.
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>>9492419
Take high school English again.

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Is it just an anarkiddie meme or is it actually good?
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>>9492216
Hugo, Nebula, and Locus award winner for best novel; a lot of critics and readers think it's good.
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>>9492259
To be fair, you can now win a Hugo, Nebula, and Locus by spreading your pussy and squirting blood clots onto a bust of Lovecraft's face
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>>9492270
if this is your attitude, I doubt anything written after flaubert will meet your standard of good.

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In the sense that the Traditionalists like Evola/Guenon were? Both seem to acknowledge the underlying truth found in all religious traditions. What would they think of one another and how do their beliefs differ?
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He is familiar with the milieu that reads Guenon. He reads Jung, Eliade, Campbell. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew about the major esoteric circles. But I doubt he's an orthodox Trad, let alone of the Evola variety. If you've met them, you know they have all internalized a kind of monkish way of talking, and they have way too much focus on their fixed corpus.

Peterson is just tapped into the same '60s/'70s quack and esoterica-lite streams that happened to lead a lot of people to things like Guenon.
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>>9492203
Also, it should be said that the university he teaches at is one of the major Traditionalist camps on the continent.
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>>9492210
The same university which tries to fire him for not using 70+ gender-neutral pronouns?

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I'll start with this whiny piece of shit
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David Foster Wallace, William Shakespeare, Ernest Hemingway & Oscar Wilde.
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>>9492157
>Overrated authors
The Greeks.
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ITT total brainlets

t. Have read these authors.

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So I am basically planning on reading Dickens as a whole. So far I've read:

Great Expectations
A Tale of Two Cities
Oliver Twist
David Copperfield
Bleak House
Nicholas Nickleby
Our Mutual Friend
Barnaby Rudge

What should I read next? I'll say that I'm disinclined to ever read The Old Curiosity Shop since I know the little girl who is basically the MC dies, and knowing that in advance probably make enjoying it impossible
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Start with the greeks
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>>9492162

I've already read them, well, enough of them to be moving on.
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>>9492150
Pickwick papers is his funniest. OCS probably his weakest novel but he didn't write stinkers

Soon summer soon. Post comfy books to read during that season.
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I read The Dharma Bums in a city park last June, while laying on a blanket on the grass and with iced water. It was definitely a very comfy experience.
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Has anyone read Tove Jansson's The Summer Book? Is it any good?

I loved reading the Moomin novels and comics as a kid, and now I'm interested in maybe reading some of Tove Jansson's adult books
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I hate summer. It's already too hot and the sun is burning electric. I hate the sun. It turns me into a cold, coarse-minded creature focused on survival and escape: stray between me and the promise of shade and I just might dispatch you, Meursault-style.

Best non-classical Chinese lit? Moon rune experts weigh in because I want someone to convince me to learn it.
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if you want non classical cao xueqin (he's the reference base for modern chinese)
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>>9492087
What about modern lit?
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collected works of jin yong

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What nihilist books do you recommend?
Novels, poems, essays ...
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Anything by Barth
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>Nihilism
>Posts Dostoevsky
What did you intend by this
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>>9491977
The plays of Wm Shakespeare, the poems of Emily Dickinson, the Essays of Michel de Montaigne.

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>When people think that Kierkegaard was saying there is no such thing as objective truth
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But that's exactly what he was saying, and i'm not aware of any evidence to the contrary
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>>9492412

>that stair is a stair and not my face

this is unacceptable
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>muh plot

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I think this is my favorite Japanese novel. What's yours?
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whats that one where the guy is like a serial killer and it has rad cover art, i didn't read it but if i did it would be that one
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>>>/wsr/
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>>9491775
actually i forgot to bookmark it so requesting it

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"I have gone on writing (and perhaps I must stop doing so) mostly about
the warm separateness of men and women, their city, its shifting look, work,
and plan, not only my home town subway that opened in 1904 and all the
details of its construction (and now, if I may be in two times, seven months
after this talk in Orleans?reconstruction) like bridge building, but its
meaning, its habit of passing through an invisible city to let you off and up
to the surface somewhere, action, children, work force (we say) changing
and meeting and not meeting one another, "things here below," the title of a
story I'm writing?but the invisible city past and inside you (what
Bachelard would have done with the New York subway), and patterns
mobile, abstract, and like layer on layer of thought, yet inherent and I've
hoped biophysical, infra-structures scoped by all our precise knowledges
and intuition. This was mixed and a risk, it led me everywhere, it led me by
analogy and question and probably some ear-to-the-ground naturalism of my
own to science, where I had often been anyway.
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The novel is about, at least proximately, fathers and sons, their
simultaneous search for and avoidance of one another; the
uncertainties produced by chronological distortion and metamor-
phosing narration are analogues for David's psychological ambi-
valence. This conflict between father and son is also dramatized in
short interchapters between the eight memoirs. There are two voices
in these interchapters: Brooke's and some godlike or muselike or
authorial voice that has fathered Brooke's voice yet is within it. Their
argument over whether or not to unify the relatively discrete
memoirs helps explain the rationale for McElroy's fracturing his
material, but this conflict of "spirit-author" and author (or Holy
Ghost and narrator) is more important as part of McElroy's
exhaustive extension of the Biblical metaphor.7 Like the Bible, A
Smuggler's Bible is concerned with the historical relation of father
and son, split into separate "books" with different points of view and
styles, and unified by theme and by a single agent of inspiration.
Further, one motive of A Smuggler's Bible is the search for origins
and ends, a continuity between genesis and revelation that would
establish a configurative meaning. On the other hand, a smuggler's
bible is only a means, an empty box used to transport valuables
across frontiers. As the novel proceeds, various kinds of smuggling
and allied dishonesties such as counterfeiting and forging are worked
into the text, and by the end Brooke's manuscript is placed in a
smuggler's bible on shipboard. Smuggling becomes an image for
functional collecting and specious connecting, directly opposed to
the more ambitious Biblical intentions of finding truth and meaning
through separate acts. The metaphor of a smuggler's bible breaks
when McElroy fully develops-overloads-each term's implica-
tions: the terms examine each other and cooperate for partial
meanings but are finally separate as are the sections of the book. Just
as David and his father move both toward and away from each other,
the novel advances upon meaning and attacks its possibility,
constructs and deconstructs itself as it expresses what McElroy
identifies as its theme: "the powerful and mysterious coexistence of
continuity and discontinuity" (NN, p. 204)
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These are the only two Mcelroy's I've read; anyone want to discuss/ask questions/speculate?
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ya he seems like a smart doode. is der a spahrk notes i can red?

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Prove you aren't living in a simulated reality
Pro-tip: you literally can't
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Yeah I can, I just did. Prove I didn't.
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>>9491701
if we're living in a simulated reality and our 4D overlords are watching our every move, i'd say fuck them for making my life miserable
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So how do we go about breaking the simulation?

Which pills reverse the analytic pill? Ive taken it and I'm not sure I can go back. It's weird down here lit, help
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I'm still very much inside the analytic hole but I think I can see the light. I've decided that it is entirely absurd to do analytic philosophy without getting into certain branches of mathematics (such as foundations or mathematical logic). Problem is: I'm already 25 and there is no hope for me to ever properly learn mathematics. So I've decided to seek new ways.
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>>9491640
The amount of math that's directly relevant to analytic philosophy isn't hard to learn.
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>>9491644
Absolutely not true. It really depends on the field you're interested in. I was mostly concerned with non-monotonic logic, and models of belief and decision. It's quite tricky if you want to really make a contribution.

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