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>>9512291
gave me an authentic nerd moment
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>>9512291
into me
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>>9512291
Cheerios
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>we're condemned to be free
wew lad
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>implying free will exist
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>>9511785
> implying that the reality from which you derive the idea that free will doesn't exist exists
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>>9511826
>Implying it doesn't
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>buy Chekhov's 'The Seagull' from used bookstore
>don't bother looking inside. buy it and leave
>open it on the subway home
>a pressed flower falls out just inside the cover
>i pick it up and people look at me and smile
>the next page, another pressed flower falls out onto the floor
>one girl laughs
>i flip through the pages quickly
>coins, seeds, old sneakers, and candy wrappers fall out all over the subway floor
>a couple subway seagulls fly over and start eating the seeds
>i leave the book on the seat and walk to the other end of the carriage and stand there until my stop
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>>9511720
>old sneakers
Oi?
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>>9511720
Nice poem anon, made me smile
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>buy Williams's "Stoner" from used bookstore
>don't bother reading the back. buy it and leave.
>turn it over on the subway home
>there's an ounce of weed taped to the back
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So did any of you pseuds actually end up reading this? Is it seriously worth it or should I just go back to other memes like Women and Men.
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There are people here who have read a couple hundred books, are in their thirties, and have professional urban jobs. None of them finished ZT, in fact, many of them admitted defeat within the first 500 pages.
No one on /lit/ has finished ZT. It's a pseud magnet, btw.
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>>9511516
I honestly and unironically don't read translations. Let me finish with all the English books and I'll get to it in 40 or v50 years.
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>>9511516
I own a copy (pic related), but only because they are just a couple thousand copies of the english translation. I don't want to wait 10 years to read the book then have to pay $500-$1000 just to get it.
What is being disgusted by the absurdity, sometimes to the point of nausea? Is there a clinical term?
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>>9511332
OCD
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depression is a safe answer.
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>>9511336
That's it. I should have known, thanks.
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What are some good manly /lit/s? Something to get the blood pumping in fury.
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Conan the Barbarian
Solomon Kane
Le Morte D'Arthur
Iliad
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>>9511146
>mary sue of a retard wannabe boxer
>dark and edgy
>cucked by lancelot
>sucked patroclus's dick
he said manly, not the hollow shadow of manliness.
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Beowulf is the only real answer
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>Tl;dr: what can I read to help me cope with all the injustices, the pains, the exploitation, ignorance and hatred that crush the world if I don’t have any faith in divine justice or life after death?
I don’t believe in life after death.
I don’t believe in Karma.
I don’t believe in Rebirth.
I am generally a happy person, but sometimes the suffering I see in the world seems too much for me to bear. I try to read the lessons of wisdom of the Buddha, or Christ, or the stoics, but in the end I can’t help but despair. I see war, forced prostitution, slave labor, several forms of exploitation of men over men, and of men over animals: it’s simply terrible.
Since I don’t expect that divine justice will correct things, I can help but fell nauseated at the pain that many lives have to endure.
For example: right now, in the country that I live, Brazil, politicians are trying their best to approve a reform in labor-law that will affect all workers (amputating their rights off) and be favorable only to a small bunch of mega-business-tycoons. Many people are not aware of the major effects of this law project because the media do not cover it in detail, although even with this media-desert one can see that there is some kind of fear and awareness beginning to spread slowly. I know about the nasty effects of such law because I am myself a lawyer and have the necessary knowledge to actually see the project for what it is.
But that was just an example of greedy individuals trying to extract more from people that already don’t have much.
>My question is: what can I read to help me cope with all the injustices, the pains, the exploitation, ignorance and hatred that crush the world if I don’t have any faith in divine justice or life after death?
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just meditate. you eventually will figure out.
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>>9510876
History books. You might notice how this shit has been going for a long time. Other than that, I might suggest fantasy, because reading 'serious' literature will only make you more aware.
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>>9510876
IF
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
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I'm 30. When I was a kid boys read lord of the rings or Dune and girls read harry potter. Is it still like that?
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You were a teenager when Harry Potter came out.
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>>9510539
No.
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No, nowadays people don't read at all unless they absolutely have to. Apart from people who do like books, but those don't tend to stay at just those books.
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What else can I say if I don't want to say "on that note" in a sentence?
For example:
"On that note, here is the picture of taewoong and daehyun pulling kasper into the frame."
"On that note, say hi to my new car."
"On that note, good night."
Please help!
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Nothing whatsoever. It's meaningless anyway.
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>>9510530
Well. Well, say hello to my new car. Well, good night!
>welll, okay!
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>>9510653
Thanks! Any other?
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What's the best opening line to a novel?
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My name is Ishmael.
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>>9510373
What is not supposed to be my concern!
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Hello, I am Ishmael.
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Need some advice with this sentence. Can you please advise a more elegant way of phrasing this sentiment, or does it sound okay as is?:
"We share nearly a third of our life with whom we work."
Grammar, I think, is fine. Just sounds a bit funny.
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>>9510218
We share nearly a third of our lives with colleagues.
>another third sleeping
>final third on-line i.e. dreaming
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>>9510305
>with colleagues
rather, with coworkers.
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Why is postmodern literature such trash? That goes for pretty much all of it. Including DeLillo, DFW, and Pynchon. Why do postmodern authors spend so much time researching better books from people smarter than them, if they're only capable of producing lackluster narratives?
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DFW is such trash his name shouldn't be in the same sentence as Pynchon or Delillo
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>>9510137
t. I was a mindless redditor who praised IJ when it was in fashion, now I bash it because that's cool now.
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>>9510133
I would answer your question, but I can't do so since you force me to accept your premise.
I have no problem with intertextuality, nor do I think that all the authors you mentioned are capable of producing lackluster narratives. I also don't think it's very useful to see all of these authors as part of a postmodern tradition when wanting to discuss the two things you take issue with.
I would invite you to explain your framing of these authors within the postmodern tradition and its relevance to their kind of narratives and intertextuality, but I know better than to ask such sensible things of faggots.
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Internal conflict book recommendation thread
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I feel conflicted between a desire for adventure and a sense of duty to my nation and mankind. Are there any books on this? Also post internal conflicts to see if other anons can help you resolve them.
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Join the army. Or read a book about some young lad joining the army for those reasons and getting BTFO.
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>>9510094
I'm going to join the marines after uni.Weird you'd say that
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>>9510081
Want to make a sandwich.
Don't want to walk to the kitchen.
Are then any books to help me resolve this contradiction in my being? White male authors only please (Japanese acceptable).
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My gf loves milk and honey. I told her it was shit and not real poetry and she said how? And I had nothing to say because I don't know nothing about poetry. What makes it shit I wanna own her when I get home. Stupid cunt.
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You don't deserve her.
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The art of not reading is a very important one. It consists in not taking an interest in whatever may be engaging the attention of the general public at any particular time. When some political or ecclesiastical pamphlet , novel, or poem is making a great commotion, you should remember that he who writes for fools always finds the large public - A precondition for reading god books is not reading bad ones: for life is short.
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THE FUCKING WHORE!
The difference between continental and analytic philosophy is that continentals realize that philosophical questions almost always resolve into social questions. Analytics, in one way or another, concern themselves with definitions and think that formulating their views into neat arguments makes a genuine contribution to philosophy. This is a comforting view, but ultimately meaningless. Mountains of analytic literature will not make an impact on how people interpret the world around them, and gain insight into how those interpretations relate to historical and political reality. This is why, for all their "obscurantism", continental philosophers hold greater wisdom. The Platonic search for definitions as constituting truth is too simplistic, it is a very narrow model for philosophy to operate in.
It is certainly not wise to ignore all the insights of social science in orded to pursue some elitist notion of philosophy that is divorced from all the fundamental debates of contemporary society. If you take part in a undergraduate analytic course, it is likely you will not even hear a mention of Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche or Heidegger. How is this allowed?
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>>9509860
What the fuck are you talking about, there are analytical hegelians
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>>9509860
Not all philosophical problems are social problems. I'm sorry you don't know enough philosophy to grasp this very simple fact. Analytical philosophy cannot be reduced to simply "definitions" just as continental philosophy cannot be reduced to "obscurantist marxist wankery".
Remember, you have to read Plato AND Aristotle to become a well-rounded human being
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>>9510091
Okay, tell me one perennial problem of philosophy that is purely theoretical.