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what kind of bookmark do you use? none of this page folding bullshit you fucking plebs

pic not related
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I use playing cards. Is that fedora tier?
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>>9513810
i use old ram

Is reality just perceived by one person(You)?

If You become trapped in a never ending illusion does it become your reality?
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>>9513660
The way we go about experiencing reality is through perception.

What?

Saying things like 'your reality' seems to me you use 'reality' to already mean some sort of subjective state of experience, in which case the answer is trivially yes (i.e. "If you perceive X, and reality is perception, then isn't your reality now X?").
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Welcome to the 17th century, I'm glad you could make it.
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>>9513660
haha your pic is from funnyjunk

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Which are some older examples of the "bad life conditions breed evil people" paradigm in literature? I want to know where that Nigga Motto proginated, not to discuss it's accuracy.
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Joe Christmas in 'light in august' by faulkner
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>>9514086
I was looking for something older
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>>9513655
Story of Kullervo in the Kalevala?
>O, ye many unborn nations,
>Never evil nurse your children,
>Never give them out to strangers,
>Never trust them to the foolish!
>If the child is not well nurtured,
>Is not rocked and led uprightly,
>Though he grow to years of manhood,
>Bear a strong and shapely body,
>He will never know discretion,
>Never eat the bread of honor,
>Never drink the cup of wisdom.

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You look up to society
Which glares down with the moral pretension
Of those who see virtue a matter of prevention
Who affirm in humble utterance

Or is it uttered humility
with unwarrented arrogance
their material success and earthly achievement
to hide complicity, duress, aching resentment

And you look at your soul
to see a carnival of carnal desires
and a penchant for cruelty
a love of that which sin inspires

So you search your heart
For a truth that's not abhorrent
But find only unforgiving ocean currents
A vessel tossed mercilessly by its torrents

You, vassal of your own designs
Your every success a bitter compromise
Between your ambitions and yourself
...

Any advice on how to end it?
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Doggerel desu.

Bin it.
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COMPLETE SHIT
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>Any advice on how to end it?
I suggest hanging yourself or using a shotgun

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Now that the dust has finally settled, what were the best books of the 2010's?
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MY
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DIARY
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>>9513369
dIARy

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>Write a nightmarish scifi short-story last year
>Begin to check out Philip K. Dick books cause his themes sound cool, and resonate with my thoughts
>Write a small scene of a play
>Read a PKD story, and it has shocking similarities
>Start reading my second PKD book, realize it has even MORE similarities to the short story I wrote a year ago

I'm not sure I'm me.
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>>9513234
>I'm not sure I'm me

Funny. PKD wasn't sure he was himself, either.
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>>9513234
Everything has been written before. I accidentally wrote Huckleberry Finn word for word in Middle School and got kicked out for plagiarism.
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>>9513262
This is like getting fired from work "for no god damn reason at all."

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Any books about cute girls doing cute things?
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>>9513211
Little Women
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>>9513211
The Bell Jar.
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>>9513211
The last few chapters of Wuthering Heights

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Need Poetry 4virgins
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>>9513112
>4virgins
How about literally any poetry
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Is Bloom's "Shakespeare: the Invention of the Human" worth reading? I love Shakespeare for reference
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no. i read 5 of his books. read it if you have no other commentary on shakespeare, but he admitted frye is the better critic. so read frye if you can.
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>>9513050

It's fine, but not really as a "read front to back" thing. He meant for it to be dipped into and read out of order, reading a chapter before or after you read the corresponding play. Of course if you dislike Bloom and his books, you'll hate it, but if you're a Bloomite this has some great Bloom in it.
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It's a good read if you already like Bloom's style. The problem with it is that it's too self-centered (in more than one way). Bloom focuses almost purely on character, and tends to be very anectodical in his appreciation of the text, even to the point of being pompous. He also has some very questionable opinions on some plays, which sometimes get in the way of the actual, meaningful analysis.

Still, it's an interesting read, if only to disagree with Bloom. Read a PDF or something, I wouldn't spend money on it.

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Do you make notes in the books you read? If so, why? If not, why not?
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>>9512712
Just get a seperate notebook and make notes in that. It's easier to organize and review them; and you don't have to vandalize your book to do it.
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>>9512712
hell yes, only idiots fetishize dumb clumps of mushed up tree pith

It's fun to go back and read what I used to think about thinngs, or be able to flip through a book and find the passage I'm looking for cause I dabbed it with a make note
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Because I take screenshots instead, and give them searchable titles that explain their content and give a terse commentary on that content.

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I want to live the bohemian literary lifestyle.

How do I do this?

Are you guys bohemians? If so, how?
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>>9512632
i live in a tiny gray apartment and work odd jobs. All i do is read and write. I dont even have a computer. Just a box of journals and a library card.

Most people would say this life is the lowest a person could live, but i couldnt be happier.

Is this bohemian, or minimalist? i like to think both. Bohemianism isn't travelling around and fucking everything in sight; its living by your own compass.
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I just sniffed a bucket of liquor.
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Autismbux paid into bank account, live in third world hotels using cash from ATMs.

Spoilers: an actual rat lives under my bed and this room has no window. Fuck KL.
At least, I'm reasonably sure it's a rat. I'd estimate its weight at 200 grams. Too big to be a mouse. But at $15 a night in a big city I suppose I can't expect much better.

Bohemian? Basically what you mean is gypsy-like or free of the restrictions of a 9-5 job. Digital nomads do a less glamorous form of bohemianism. Sponges like myself don't exactly advertise what they do, so even less glamorous.

It's more important, I think, to have /lit/ friends to really do the bohemian thing. Places to crash, parties to attend, big city, everyone smart and witty. You won't find that in the 3rd world.

tl;dr: be rich but idle

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https://www.watch2gether.com/rooms/welcometothewater-60t4ix13mfiquo3i3t

We're listening to Dave read Big Red Son at :xx whenever some number of people join

Welcome to the water :)
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Please, enjoy the water
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big red son sucks put another one
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Beneath it all we know the whole thing sucks, but we pretend to like it anyway

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Is reading Marx and other economic or social authors like him worth the time? It all feels a bit abstract and pointless. Reading about grand theories for something that may happen, if the circumstances are right, some time. Feel like divination or augury.
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>is reading [...] worth the time
nah books are shit
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>>9512471
Marx's work has garnered responses from most of the world's greatest minds. You're doing a disservice to yourself if you neglect to read what he wrote
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>>9512471
marx is one of the few political/economic authors you should read if only because of the criticisms it levels at modernity, which go deeper than materialism. everything else to do with politics is a complete waste of time

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what's the literary equivalent of an acid bad trip?
>inb4 naked lunch
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>>9512462
illuminatus
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>>9512462
Naked lunch. The atrocity exhibition. Travesty by John hawkes. Vurt by Jeff noon. Journey to the end of night.

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Can we talk a bit about 'Notes from Underground'?

Was Dostoevsky the late 1800's 4chan shitposter? The 'underground man' is the archetypal /lit/ user.
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The underground man is Dostoyevsky's response to another writer (I forgot his name) who wrote a story about a sort of utopia where everyone acts according to mathematics and logic. He agued that this society could not exist because of people like the underground man, who purposefully act illogically out of spite and social stupidity. I think that hits certain users here pretty spot on.
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>>9512376

My reading of the Underground Man is that he is floating around in a wilderness of Bureaucracy and pointless days, but his conscience is aware that the state of his society is characterized by common immorality.

He recognizes the need for a saint but he refuses to try and become one himself, despite occasional bursts of saintly intention (the prostitute) coupled with occasional bursts of evil intention (the prostitute).

He hates himself for failing to dissolve the contradictions in his soul and decides he is petty and loathsome. It's easier. It lets life carry on like it did yesterday.
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>Le Underground Man is literally /r9k/ and /lit/ XD!

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