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What do you think of this analysis from reddit?

The Judge is the avatar of a paleoconservative entity called Death which would see all consciousness expunged, after being rendered completely irrelevant. All things reduced to a self-swallowing process, causes and effects dancing dumbly around the void, an ocean of blood and froth that circles a black hole like a drainspout, on and on until nothing is left but the entity’s reality — none other now possible —and its name, the last word, phonetically sounded in the last language that remains. SILENCE.
Being an avatar, an embodiment, the Judge is able to think and act strategically.
It’s probable he wants the Idiot to have some effect on other men. He intends to use him as a tool, a totem of animal regression. Therefore the leash. The Idiot is of course a person too, but that personhood is what the Judge wants to render utterly useless. Think from his perspective if you can: he can let the Idiot die, or pluck him from that stream of events. If the Idiot died in the river, men might sympathize with the Idiot, who was fascinated by his image in the water, an experience to which they can relate. That is not acceptable to the Judge, so he saves him. I am sure he can be destroyed later in a way that, this time, signifies nothing.
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>>9529338
Gay and pseudoscrutinacal
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>>9529350
Why and how
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>>9529338

*spits*

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Thoughts on the norton critical editions? Are they worth the bucks?
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imo short of specific University editions, they're the most scholarly editions available. Great introductions, helpful footnotes
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Sure, if you want sjws to tell you what to think about classic lit
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Only if you really want to study the work and will actually go through some of that extra stuff, or if it's a collection. The Norton Critical edition of Keats poems and letters, for example, is a good edited collection of that material.

Broadview has pretty similar editions as well.

Which of the statement is grammatically correct?
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>>9528117
Neither of them are.
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Technically, neither.
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>>9528135
>>9528128
What's wrong with them?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ZJ5BVA44k

How often do you visit your local library?
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Never, I don't read
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I meet guys there for frottage all the time.
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>>9527971
Finally, after going through millions of post, a true patrician who "gets it" emerges.

You're right reading books is for suckers.

We study literature.

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Can we finally agree that this is one of the best books of the XX century?
What's your opinion about Bolaño?
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I think 2666 is superior, his prose is much better in it
TSD is also pretty good, but overrated in my opinion, didn't really care for the first part of the book. I really enjoyed the interviews of Joaquin Font, the nazi guy, the guy from africa and some other ones I don't remember right now because I read some time ago
Haven't read any of his other books, but I want to
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>>9527917

-What is great about that book is the middle part (most of the book), which is a great collection of short stories in the form of interviews to different people.
The sudden break between the first part and the middle part is quite jarring at first, but it´s all worth it.

-He surely would have won the nobel if he had not died so young.
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>>9527917
even IJ is better desu
bolaño is just brosocialist circular-jerking material

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The trolley problem is without a doubt the single most retarded thought experiment philosophy has shat out. Anyone who wouldn't change the track is a sociopath.

Here's a real problem:
>20 innocent adults who you know and consider friends are about to be executed by the state for expressing polite dissatisfaction with the totalitarian government
>you know a guy in a foreign customs office who has everything he needs to issue them valid passports and save their lives, but he won't do it because he's afraid of losing his job, and won't relent to bribes, guilt or empty threats
>the only person he gives even the slightest shit about is his son, but even if you hold the child hostage, he won't relent unless you physically
and permanently injure him to prove you're serious


Would you do it /lit/? Are the lives of 20 adults worth more or less that the extreme suffering of a child?
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>>9527829
>Anyone who wouldn't change the track is a sociopath.
That's a meaningless truism and you know it. The Trolley Problem is meant to spark dialog over ethics, not your pet pop psychology horseshit.

It's still a retarded thought experiment, since like most thought experiments it ignores any possible subtlety or nuance of scenario to the point of being obtuse.
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>>9527829
>Anyone who wouldn't change the track is a sociopath.
You got it backwards.
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>>9527829
>Anyone who wouldn't change the track is a sociopath

children would just draw more figures unto the other track

the thing about the picture is that it is and isn't at the same time, there are stick figures but you have to build the story around it and fit morality into it make it work

it's "retarded" because it forces you to come up with something that isn't part of the narrative and bares your notion of the world to be exposed to everyone

so there is a shame associated with it and so on

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>The Goal of Science.
What? The ultimate goal of science is to create the most pleasure possible to man, and the least possible pain? But what if pleasure and pain should be so closely connected that he who wants the greatest possible amount of the one must also have the greatest possible amount of the other, that he who wants to experience the "heavenly high jubilation," must also be ready to be "sorrowful unto death"? And it is so, perhaps! The Stoics at least believed it was so, and they were consistent when they wished to have the least possible pleasure, in order to have the least possible pain from life. (When one uses the expression: The virtuous man is the happiest," it is as much the sign-board of the school for the masses, as a casuistic subtlety for the subtle.) At present also you have still the choice: either the least possible pain, in short painlessness and after all, socialists and politicians of all pareies could not honourably promise more to their people, or the greatest possible amount of pain, as the price of the growth of a fullness of refined delights and enjoyments rarely tasted hitherto! If you decide for the former, if you therefore want to depress and minimise man’s capacity for pain, well, you must also depress and minimise his capacity for enjoyment. In fact, one can further the one as well as the other goal by science! Perhaps science is as yet best known by its capacity for depriving man of enjoyment, and making him colder, more statuesque, and more Stoical. But it might also turn out to be the great dispenser of pain! And then, perhaps, its counteracting force might at the same time be discovered : its immense capacity for making new galaxies of Joy!

I'm new to Nietzche and this is a bit difficult for me to comprehend.

Does it basically mean that ignorance is a bliss or something like that?
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Yes that's exactly what he meant, and nothing more. Brilliant deduction, keep up the great work
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No, he means: 'i am a massive pseud, hear me roar'
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He was talking about drugs mostly, he was a notorious drug fiend and according to his sister he went crazy after drinking some out of this world oriental hash tea.

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Okay /lit/, what's your best piece of writing advice?
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>>9527675
Why be different when you can be yourself
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If you don't like to have a lonely life, you're not an author
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don't listen to anyone on /lit/

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Writers who ruined your life.

For me: Camus and Sartre
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>>9527409
Your life is shit because you're a cowardly faggot, not because you've read a few pseuds

>>>/r9k/
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bad thread conducive only to blogposts, not literary discussion

not sure how these relatively straightforward and optimistic thinkers could "ruin" your life anyhow, seems more to me like you're just romanticizing/bragging about your own reading habits
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>>9527412

Don't cut yourself on that edge, kid.

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What does /lit/ think of McElroy?
What can I expect from this book?
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Where did all this interest in McElroy of late come from?
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>>9527415
Me. McElroy poster. All you have to do is post the name of an author a bunch of times and it gets into people's heads without them even noticing. It's quite nifty.
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>>9527415
Visited his interview yesterday.

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What's the point of becomming a writer if you can't compete with the western cannon and most people today watch TV, films or play games rather than read?

Anyone else feel the same, knowing that you were born too late?
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>>9527386
Wow, you said cannon. That's really funny. Another great and hysterical frog thread
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>>9527386
You may have been born too late, but if you were born over a hundred years ago chances are you'd just be an illiterate farmer or some shit who would never write anything.

Don't think about audience, think about writing something good that could be published, and go from there.
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Totally right dude. Because there's no working writers anymore. None whatsoever.

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We had some good discussion last thread besides a few trolls
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>>9527272
I'm redpilled!!! DON'T POST WOMEN HERE, THEIR INFERIOR
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>>9527272
Why did feminism go to such shit when it became the establishment
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>>9527311
All real issues have been adressed, so it started dealing with imaginary ones

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I'm reading Lord of the Rings for the first time and I found that it's significantly better when I imagine Frodo as a cute anime girl. Does anyone else ignore the author's descriptions and make things whatever they want them to be?
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I'm genuinely surprised there's no Japanese LOTR animu or videogame given their love of his tropes. Does Tolkien have any presence in Japanese literary culture?
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>>9527256
No but what I will do is imagine a similar looking character from film or tv if the description is close enough.
Or if the book has an adaptation I can't think of the character as anything other than the actor who played him.
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I imagined some characters in 100 years of solitude as JoJo characters.
Pietro Crespi - Giorno
Colonel Aureliano - Joseph
Ursula - Erina
Jose Arcadio Buendia - Jonathan
Jose Arcadio - Jotaro
Aureliano Jose - Kakyoin
Arcadio - Josuke
Melquiades -Zeppelin
Colonel Gerineldo Marquez - Caesar
Baby in the end - Part 4 Jolyne (Macondo is NOT destroyed in the end, Jolyne just makes it invisible)
Etc

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How do I visualize a scene better in my head?
I've started reading recently. It's pretty interesting, but I find that when I'm reading, I don't really see the scene in my head like what some of my friends say they do.
I just process it as something happening, or attribute traits to things that they were told to possess. And when I try to visualize, for example, the layout of a certain room or a house as described on a novel, my mind just fails to make an image of it.
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>>9527178
You might have Aphantasia but I'd suggest improving your vocabulary recognition, maybe take a walk in the woods.
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You are not the "How do I learn to think guy" by any chance? Where are you mental halflings coming from?
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It's important to think about how seeing something in your head is different from seeing it in real life, and how in other ways it is similar.
Don't put too much thought into specifics, especially if the book is very heavy in pointless detail. If you were in a room talking to people you wouldn't focus on small details of a room, you would focus on the people.
When you are doing something in real life, you can see everything, but your mind is not like that, especially when you are trying to read at the same time. If you focus on small details you will be bogged down, and unable to visualize the important things.
It's also good to practice. Reading more will help, but there are other ways too. Just close your eyes and try to imagine scenarios, maybe when you are trying to fall asleep. Or listen to an audio version of a play or some other kind of audio only media, or just close your eyes during a tv show, you will be able to visualize what is happening based on the information given, and what you can naturally infer. This is more important than being able to visualize detail. If you can visualize without specific instructions in this way, then all forms of visualizing will become easier.

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I'm going to take a Monastery Life Retreat.
What books should I take with me? It's going to be for a month.
Of course I'll be taking my bible.
Pic related is the place I'll be going.
They have a bakery, a winery and they do bookbinding.
www.trappistabbey.org/
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>going to a retreat
>bring in shit from the outside world

dumbass
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capitalism has found a way to profit from a common misconception about monastic life.
check out at http://www...
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Take your bible.

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