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So has /lit/ got around to reading the new Murakami yet? Is it worth the time?
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>>9543001
>So has /lit/ got around to reading the new Murakami yet?
Yes
>Is it worth the time?
No
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>So has /lit/ got around to reading the new Murakami yet?
No
>Is it worth the time?
Yes
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>>9543001
>So has /it/ got around to reading the new Murakami yet?
No
>Is it worth the time?
No

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what's the /lit/ equivalent of this album?
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I wouldn't know. I don't listen to pretentious crap.
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>>9542996
Thank you for the thread's contribution.
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>>9542989
Stop

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What writing software do you use?
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>>9542904
What do you mean, software? I tap on the post number and this little square box pops out. That's where I write.
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Latex
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So /lit/ I just finished pic related.

I've heard some people say that reading the part II isn't exactly mandatory.

I'm not sure what to do, I read Goethe's Faust I in order to better understand Mann's Doctor Faustus, which I'm about to start.

What would you do? Would you read the second part?
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mann's book is based on the original faust legend which is best told in marlowe

by reading goethe instead you got the extra special version

so no, no need ot read part 2
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>>9542711
I had already read Marlowe's. Thanks!
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Part 2 is the mandatory one.

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Anybody plan on reading this?

25-year-old female author, Sally Rooney, publishes her debut novel Conversations With Friends that sold to a publishing house for hundreds of thousands of pounds.

First chapter:

>Bobbi and I first met Melissa at a poetry night in town, where we were performing together. Melissa took our photograph outside, with Bobbi smoking and me self-consciously holding my left wrist in my right hand, as if I was afraid the wrist was going to get away from me. Melissa used a big professional camera and kept lots of different lenses in a special camera pouch. She chatted and smoked while taking the pictures. She talked about our performance and we talked about her work, which we’d come across on the internet. Around midnight the bar closed. It was starting to rain then, and Melissa told us we were welcome to come back to her house for a drink.

>We all got into the back of a taxi together and started fixing up our seat belts. Bobbi sat in the middle, with her head turned to speak to Melissa, so I could see the back of her neck and her little spoon-like ear. Melissa gave the driver an address in Monkstown and I turned to look out the window. A voice came on the radio to say the words: eighties . . . pop . . . classics. Then a jingle played. I felt excited, ready for the challenge of visiting a stranger’s home, already preparing compliments and certain facial expressions to make myself seem charming.

Link: https://www.the-pool.com/arts-culture/bedtime-bookclub/2017/21/sally-rooney-conversations-with-friends
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>>9542648

I don't care about her shitty prose, OP. I am far more interested in her Woolf shnoz.

Check the bloody size of the thing.
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That "self-consciously" is a turd in the salad.
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This is a novel? Reads like a facebook post.

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Does /lit/ know any comfy nature books? Ideally fiction, but not fantasy. Just anything that has an emphasis on the surrounding landscape, fauna, etc. Survival stuff is also okay.
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the lord of the rings
thoreau - walden
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>>9543183
Seconding Walden. It's such a masterpiece. Thoreau's description of the lake in winter was absolutely sublime.
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>>9543193
i actually don't quite enjoy walden--emerson is the more insightful transcendentalist--i recommended it because it's a standard work. it's not bad in itself, and thoreau undoubtedly imbued his work with his deep learning, but it encourages half assed yuppie nature tourism, which they are neither attenuated nor self capable of. not to mention luddism (which i realise tolkien is also culpable of, but lord of the rings has better merits outside of tolkien's futile philosophical outlook) is an exercise in futility, and thoreau doesn't really suggest a concrete plan of where to go after walden.

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I think i haven't well understood the arguments behind Kant's critique of Newtonian objective view of space and time. If space and time are containers or reality, why should they lose their property of being real if they stop containing the data of experience? Does Kant logically justify his rejection to this idea or he just states it is very unlikely that it can be considered as the right view?
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People don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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Because for Kant, space and time don't really exist. Any experience we have is an appearance, or representation, and not the real world. In order to have any experiences we have to conform our sense impressions to the forms of space and time, which are in us prior to experience and make it possible.

Kant never critiques Newtonian views, on the contrary he recues them from Humean doubt. In Kant's system natural science is still possible but only if we accept that we are measuring and doing science not on things in themselves, but only on things as they appear to us, which is all that actually matters anyway. For Hume there is no rational basis for cause and effect, we can't prove it. But Kant saves us by showing that you can prove cause and effect, but only as cause and effect being a form imposed on things *as they appear to us*, qua experience, as a prerequisit to have an experience at all.
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>>9542348
His argument is that time is real insofar that it is an objective phenomenon. He views any empirical account of time "being out there" as unlikely, unless you equate change with time. General relativity also showed that time was relative to motion, indicating that empirical time was somewhat imposed scientifically.

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>Wheel of Time series still has sold more copies than A Song of Ice an Fire series without a HBO boost
wait what
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>15 book series sells more books than 5 book series
really makes you think doesnt it
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>>9542232
The cumulative hype that you build up over 15 installments and however long these things took to write is a lot more than you get with 5 books spat out in awkward stop-starts with a shitty normalfaggot fodder tv tie-in. The kinds of people who enjoy Games of Thrones aren't the types who ever read, with the exception of maybe Harry Potter.
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>>9542251
>The kinds of people who enjoy Games of Thrones aren't the types who ever read
empirically wronk

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Is there any philosopher who has seen further than picrelated?
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The depression of 1920 already proved right-wingers economists wrong. There's a reason why we don't take austrian economics seriously here.
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>>9541560
He's the man who instantly comes to mind when I read or hear the word 'hack'.
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>>9541574
was Hayek responsible in any way for the economic policies leading to 29?
Didn't think so

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>mmmmhahahah
>jump into the water
>don't be like us stupid adults
>that speeding humvee has a babby crying
>daily tasks, like, suck man...
>le smugface.jpg
>jump into the water
>mmmhaahahah
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couldn't be more thrilled that the memetide has turned against this phony
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>>9541561

I think if you took off anon, people would be given more incentive to engage in pseudo-intellectualism and group-think.

DFW's name carries a lot of weight in the industry because he's an industry product. He's a glorified doorstop salesman.

Anyway, sage, we need to stop talking about this guy.
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>>9541460
I see we're trying to get waterposting off the ground

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This is pretty good
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help me
my enter key is stuck
sticky keys
engaged
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>>9541437
>muh vagina

Fine example of women's achievements in literature.
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Tell us why?

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Milton's Satan is the most well written character in the English language.

Prove me wrong
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>>9541360
Fuck you, professor Jennings
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>Asserts position with no supporting arguments.
>Requires proof that his position is incorrect.
>Probably hasn't even finished the poem

Why, anon?
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>>9541376
I've read it 3 times and I'm currently working on my English thesis on the epic.

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Any literature about the best country in the world? (Canada)
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>>9541340
Pic related is the national novel
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>>9541340
I think you missed the real one, it's just below that

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What's your favorite word /lit/?

Rate others words.

>Quintessential
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Optimal
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wasps
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Ingratitude

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Hello I am an idiot. I just got done with Goethe's Faust but I am lost on the historical hype over it

Can someone explain to me why this is considered such a masterpiece?
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>the poetry
>the banter
>the imagery
>the dense textual devices you notice on repeat readings
>the enjoyable easy to follow drama that goes along side the dense literary aspects
>the nature of the wager itself
>recontextualizing a folk tale as a depiction of the zeitgeist of the enlightenment without changing the tale in any way
>depicting the struggle of humanity so perfectly, "like a long legged grasshopper all of whose leaping/only lands him back in the grass again chirping/the same tune he's always chirped"
>Its role in shaping a unified European literature, and its greater literary and cultural legacy beyond that
It's one of the best works of literature ever produced, you can fuck off now.
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>>9541230

hey man you should like calm down and stop assuming everyone can perfectly understand one of the most important/difficult pieces of European literature after a single read

:--)
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>>9541230
>>the poetry
>the good thing about this poetic work is the poetry

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