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And no I'm not looking for some blackpill tier philosophy. Just a story that might be rather disturbing/dark/macabre/morbid/sickening/ghastly of a read while also being a good read.

I also don't want just purely excessive graphic scenes. Sure it can have them but I don't want that to be the majority of what I am reading.

Thanks
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"Tip it" by Frederick Edora
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idk that cat shit by le spooky goth man
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The Lottery, by Shirley Jackson.

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And how can I find the original meaning of the text? What is the purpose of leaving untranslated vocabulary?
This is Nicomachean ethics btw.
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get fuckin owned kid
lmfao
t. the translator
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Because the alternative is much worse. Those words are often impossible to define, or they have three dozen different traditions of interpretation claiming to be the only legitimate definition.

Usually the ONLY satisfactory translation of the central Greek philosophical terms is to leave them untranslated, and it's actually annoying when they don't do it. Same with many other things, e.g., translating Kant or Hegel, because the German idealists use words in deliberately novel ways that riff off of their existing philosophical and common-sense usage.

The Greeks were doing similar things, but even more obscurely, because they were giving the FIRST self-consciously philosophical and systematic uses of the words in history, often to clarify their completely arbitrary usage by previous philosophers. The problem is, much of this is inaccessible to us. We don't know what they're reacting against, because it isn't recorded, so we have to make lots of assumptions about why they were so forceful in systematically using certain terms. And we only have so much to work with, so we can't even come to a consensus on the systematic definition.

If you read philosophy remotely seriously, which is the only way to read philosophy, you will very quickly be familiar with all these terms anyway, and you'll be glad they're in the text directly.
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>>9554710
that's fucking definitey just the word "idea" but with weirdly drawn letters

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give me the rundown on this spicy tome
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>>9554646
History develops through a scheme called dialectics. At the center of this process are a geist and ideas (embodied in a state), and the formation of new syntheses (sublimation). In more concrete example is the development of liberty, culminating in his own contemporary state (Lutheran) Prussia, which was the pinnacle of this process.
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>>9554666
fpbp

Also,
>666
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>>9554666
And don't you dare let those 'young hegelians' tell you otherwise!

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What is the most sublime line in all of literature?

"Here force failed my high fantasy; but my
desire and will were moved already - like
a wheel revolving uniformly -

by the Love that moves the Sun and other stars."
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Something from hamlet...

Words words words
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>>9554610
Dunno but

>His heart danced upon her movements like a cork upon a tide. He heard what her eyes said to him from beneath their cowl and knew that in some dim past, whether in life or revery, he had heard their tale before.

Is definitely up there
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there's nothing "divine" about corporeal lust, buddy

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The real idiot is the person who bought this shit book, the greater idiot is the one who actualy slugged through it

The characters all suck and the plot is so weak it is nearly non existant, it could be written in a 50 page soap opera for house wives
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we get it, you're a pleb.
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>>9554494
I'm nervous to read this book for how strikingly similar I sound to the idiot Himself. I'm not very aware of my outward self, and don't know if I'll ever find a book that embodies my mindset. I'd hate to read this only to be subverted or disappointed, even though I'm sure it's a phenomenal book. I love Dostoevsky.
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Kirilov did nothing wrong

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Harold Bloom called Hemingway "a minor novelist with a major style"

What does this mean?
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If I were to guess I'd say that he meant Hemingway was not notable as a crafter of stories but he was notable for his style of minamlism which affected many writers in the 20th century into today. Camus, Tao Lin to name a couple
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Because he developed a style that has influenced virtually every American writer, directly or indirectly, since TSAR came out.

But he has never produced a "great" novel.

IMO his short stories and TOMATS are his best works.
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>>9554422
It means that the man was worth more than his works.

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What are some books about the crushing and uncaring nothingness of the universe?
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my diary desu
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>>9554319
The Myth of Sisyphus
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>>9554319

That's what all of them are about in one way or another

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How do you find what you like to read?
I recently started reading Brave New World, I am feeling forced to read it and have put it off.
I do not know what I like to read.
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>>9554286
How do you find out what you like to eat/watch/listen to/etc desu? It takes time and work on your part. You'll get there.
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>>9554297
What do you do when you feel forced reading a book, do you just stop reading it until it interests you again?
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>>9554302
I'll spoil it for myself, read what greater minds wrote about the work, take some time off from reading it, approach it from a different angle, investigate my distaste and force myself to articulate what it is I dislike, any number of different things. It can be a rewarding process.

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Redpill me on this man, /lit/. I found his name in The Art of Story by John Truby, and the things I've read about the Aleph sound really original.

Has anyone checked Borges out? What do you think?
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cool narrative, but not pretty good in terms of sustance.
totally recomend it if you are not a philophy weaboo
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>>9554229
>Has anyone checked Borges out?
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>>9554271
>I am the cutest of Borg
What did he mean by this?

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Pic related
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>>9554214
Is it in spanish?
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>>9554307
>Translated by Peter Motteux
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I received some scholarship money, but I had already paid off everything I needed to. I put most aside for next semester and got these for myself.

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The ultimate question, will reading this book add in the slightest in a meaningful way to my life? Would I be much better served by reading something else or should I continue sticking it out.
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Sure. He's a talented writer writing about a complicated time (Cold War). What's the worst it could do?

That said, I've only read Libra and White Noise. I enjoyed both immensely. Learned more from the former than the latter, tho.
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>>9554174
How the fuck was underworld about the Cold War?
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>>9554163
No delilo is shit. His only good book is white noise and maybe libra

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Is there more to that article?
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>I am pleased to help you, but I will not force you to let me help you, because this isn't junior high

At least he gave them a sense of responsibility. I think the ideas for his class were good.
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Yes because I want some colorful quasi-literary personality spraying his rant and cant and neuroses all over my carefully thought out papers

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Anyone else?
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me
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No one gives a shit

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>>9554126
phoneposter go away

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>he knows the definition of a word
>but not the pronunciation
Pathetic
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>>>9554071
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>>9554067
Your file name is nearly a piece of literature in its own right
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>>9554067

Absolutely pathetical

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Looking for influental oldschool lit that isn't much discussed.

Examples include;

>The Golden Ass, Apuleius
>Orphic Argonautica
>Marriage of Philology and Mercury, Martianus Capella
>Geneology of the Pagan Gods, Boccaccio
>Courtier, Castiglione
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>>9553981
Read some Dio Chrysostomos, baby!
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>>9553981
How oldschool is oldschool? I'm going to push it and say
>Biography of the Life of Manuel, James Cabell
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>>9553981
Book of the Courtier's wonderful. Burton's Anatomy. Walton's Lives. Aubrey's Brief Lives. The Worthies of London. Cardano's Autobiography (a nyrb). Pater's Marius. Satyricon (great), Procopius' Secret History. Lichtenberg's Wastebooks (this may disappoint [you] but I'm a fan- also a nyrb), Heine's prose..
The first 10 that come to mind-

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