What's /lit/ think about Flannery O'Connor? Here in Georgia she's taught everywhere and it's pretty neat to hear what other people think.
>>10001713
irish surname, cute, catholic southern belle w/ strong accent. haven't heard any of her work until reading your thread and searching on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQT7y4L5aKU
>>10001760
Really weird stuff, honestly. She's a staple of Southern Gothic. She writes a ton of grotesque.
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Where does one start with this man's work? Ivan Denisovich? Most importantly, what is your favorite translation of his novels?
>>10001689
Just read Gulag Archipelago.
>>10001707
I definitely plan to, but I thought I would gain a little bit of background first, other than just a wikipedia summary of the man's life. Is his other stuff not worth reading as much?
>>10001689
I'm 20 pages into Denisovich and it's pretty good.
Which books expose their lies?
>>10001648
Illuminatus Trilogy and Principia Discordia
>>10001648
The Culture of Critique
>>10001665
phrenology
Who else is in the awkward position of enjoying good writing too much to enjoy the huge majority of sci-fi and fantasy yet being too much of a no bullshit non pseud to enjoy trite as fuck, pompous, New Yorker style "literary fiction" or kitchen sink pomo lolsorandumb rubbish, or genuinely shit and boring as fuck old books?
That's me. Though I think k many old books were written as weekly or fortnightly serialised disposable trash that was later venerated by pseudo intellectuals, so I'll give those a free pass.
But the dilemma remains. Seeing little brainlet English majors talking about how the latest Ari Rothstein Chimbangong*click*ga novel about an NYU fashion PhD finding love while on holiday in Vermont skewers our "superficial society" just bores me to death and fills me with pity. Also disgust because it seems pseuds are always aggressive towards clear thinkers.
>>10001590
write your own stuff
I've dreamed about striking the perfect balance in my writing. But as it stands, the "intelligentsia" immediately disregards anything of a "pulpy" genre, anything which doesn't fit into their narrow little parameters of what a profound and interesting book can be. If it's not a book set in modern times, about a protagonist learning how difficult it is to be female/Black/liberal/gay in such a male/White/conservative/hetero world, then it's undoubtedly a pretentious attempt to redefine past genres through a 21st Century lens.
Pic related is the example I hate most. A wealthy, liberal-educated female immigrant writes about the self-loathing of a working-class 19th Century drunkard, and she thinks it's daring because she reveals at the end that he was secretly in love with his best friend all along. And of course, the cheapest, easiest, quickest way to make the reader hate McGlue as much as McGlue hates himself is to make him casually racist and sexist, as all old White men inevitably were. Fuck this book.
Any excuse not to read, fucking plebs I swear.
Today on the train I met a pseud who makes the pseuds here look normal. So when I got on I glanced at the book he was reading and thought nothing of it but 40 minutes later when I got off I noticed he was on the same fucking page. Why the fuck would anyone pretend to read?
>you've never spent 40 minutes on one page
you're the pseud
>>10001585
Taking your time is fine but if you can't read a page in 40 minutes there's something wrong with you
maybe something incredibly profound was on the page he was on and he wasn't even reading at that point, but in his own thoughts trying to deconstruct and understand it
OP was a pseud today
What do I need to read before this? I have a decent understanding of everything between Socrates and Neoplatonism, and I've mostly dabbled in medieval Christian stuff, Nietzsche, some phil. of language and existentialism What else do I need? Marx? Lacan? Freud?
>>10001512
Mainly Freud, Marx, and especially Nietzsche (Genealogy) - would recc Deleuze's book on Nietzsche as an intro (it's actually very clear and concise unlike AO of ATP). Some Spinoza & Bergson probably wouldn't go amiss - Michael Hardt's book on Deleuze's relationship with Bergson, Spinoza and Nietzsche is a good primer imo. Currently only half way through tho so maybe get some other advice too
>>10001768
Pretty good advice, but there are a few things to add.
1) Deleuze and Guattari were compromising with Lacan in AO so it might seem like they agree with him, but later they distance themselves from him. This is important because they theory of language (pragmatics) they go for is only hinted at in AO as a critique of the Signifier, but you should know about Saussure's concept of Sign and Lacan's reversal of Signifier and Signified in order to get what D&G are against.
2) Deleuze kept some crucial concepts from Nietzsche, Spinoza, Proust and Bergson which often come up so maybe have a look at his books on these authors even if they can get very difficult at times. The book on Proust deals slightly with neoplatonism and the metaphysical concept of "complication" which is part of Deleuze's ontological pluralism.
Since you mentioned medieval philosophy as well, Duns Scotus' concept of univocity (of being) comes up quite a bit in Deleuze (mostly Difference & Repetition).
Knowing a bit of anthropology helps as well since D&G cooperated with some young anthropologists at the time, but you can understand their critique without that.
I suppose a bit of biology helps as well since the Body without Organs is related to how an egg is formed.
Maybe read the BwO chapter in ATP before jumping into AO and remember that D&G initially disagreed about the concept hence the strange way in which it comes up initially.
And in general with D&G you should read their interviews and essays and conference transcripts from their collections: Desert Islands and Other Texts, Two Regimes of Madness, Essays Critical and Clinical, Dialogues, Negotiations. Just skim through them, D&G can be quite clear when they are asked questions.
Also Lawrence's concept of dirty little secret is useful in AO and D&G tend to not explain stuff in detail.
>>10001853
>>10001512
One last thing. Read "Letter to a Harsh Critic" first. I think it's in Negotiations, but you can probably find it online separately as well. It literally tells you how to read Anti-Oedipus and all their other books.
I need some recs.
Tolstoevsky is pretty good.
>>10001498
Dostoevstoy is pretty good, too.
>>10001492
Gogol.
What are some good books on secret societies?
Both fiction and non-fiction.
>>10001486
>inb4 Culture of Critique
>inb4 Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Culture of Critique and maybe Protocols of the Elders of Zion
The Prague Cemetary by Umberto Eco.
This thread again. Just finished Slaughterhouse 5, per anon's recommendation in the last thread.
>Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
>Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
>Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
>Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse
>Stoner by John Williams
call me babby, I don't give a shit
>>10001451
b help a brother out
>>10001451
Grapes of Wrath is the best of those, but it depends on what sort of mood you're in. Steppenwolf and Stoner are good if you find existentialism interesting, and you'll probably relate to them a lot. Invisible Man is similar, but less relatable for /lit/izens, and the solutions the book presents aren't as practical as the other two. BNW is okay, but Huxley's writing is noticeably lacking, with tons of cliche, and there's probably nothing in it that you haven't already learned via cultural osmosis. The Grapes of Wrath doesn't have many fresh ideas either, but depicts them with great skill, and immerses you in a way the others don't. For those reasons, I'd say choose that one.
>>10001451
1 and 4 are the quickest to get through though not necessarily the best. Read the Brit.
Am I the only individual to own a physical copy of this?
I think I am.
>>10001377
What was >>10000000
>>10001377
bumping from the bottom of the catalog. no one ccru's?
>>10001392
A Cirno poster, annoying desu.
Be absolutely honest /lit/, are you pretentious?
Not overtly.
>>10001073
Yes, and its a good thing
Of course you silly goose
itt: characters that are literally you
>>10001043
Is Neuromancer good/patrician?
Its good and uniquely written but its not patrician.
>>10000955
It's got more ninjas and weboos than /a/. I was honestly disappointed.
Fucking amazing speculative scifi if you're into wondering about the nature of consciousness in relation to technology, and the future of digital society.
Who is the best contemporary Jewish author, in your personal opinion?
I don't understand why you /pol/ types choose to hate jews and not be critical of capitalism instead.
Jews are unironically the most intelligent ethnic group in the world, and yet 'aryan' race realists choose to blame the world's problems on a group that's actually more intelligent than them. There's certainly some truth to their claim, as Jews have historically represented the ruling class that has ruthlessly pursued capital and been exploitative to those below them. But to define this exploitation on ethnic and not ideological grounds makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. Yes, Jews dominate much of the world's capital and industry and thus are often the main vehicle of these disgusting contemporary idpol movements, but why blame this on an ethnic group that had the intelligence to get to that position and not the cultural and ideological makeup of that group? Also, most of you guys are big american nationalists, and so i can't wrap my around why you feign anti-semitism when the US and Israel are allies and are quite similar in many ways.
What are you trying to get at? What are you trying to say?
My favorite jew is Kafka, by the way
>>10001045
It makes no sense to you because you lack knowledge on jewish history and the JQ. Capitalism is not the problem, it's tribalism
>>10000924
Roth obviously. Ashkenazim Jews have high natural IQs like E. Asians, and have been established in major cities in the US and UK for the last 150 years as an intellectual force, their positions in elite fields like publishing, medicine etc doesnt surprise me.
Wife is Ashkenazim btw, still waiting on that invite to the elders of zion or jewish networking conspiracies.
Which eReader should I get? Thought about Kindle Paperwhite but I'm not sure.
>>10000791
Kindles and Kobos are basically the same to me. I don't like Amazon's DRM but I can also send books through email so it's a wash.
>>10000791
KoboGlo or KoboH20 or Kindle Paperwhite or a Legacy touch.
There really is no difference, they all steal your data when you connect it, and DRM doesnt exist with calibre and a plugin, so it comes down to personal preference.
>>10000791
fbreader for android.