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>lives alone and secluded in his house most of the time except for that bit when he had a wife
>usual form of communication was writing letters to all of his writer friends
>racist
>sort of uncomfortable around women
Is he 4chan's previous life?
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>>9568715
>had a wife
No.
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>>9569255
It's ok, he never had sex with her as a general rule.
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>>9568715
That's exactly why he was a hack.
>thinking being a secluded timorous faggot etc. is good
Grow up, idiots.

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I know this might sound ridiculous, but do you guys have any tips/techniques for reading books?
I do enjoy reading (though I certainly don't read as much as I used to), and recently I've wanted to explore a bit of philosophy, but I've found that when I read most books after a few chapters my comprehension starts to get foggy. My mind wanders. My eyes start to droop and I have moments where I realize I've read a page and a half without internalizing any of the information and I have to start all over.
So, what tricks do you use to stay engaged and properly internalize the information presented?
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>>9568564
Your parents shouldve disciplined you as a child. it too late now
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We have this thread every fucking shitty day. I recommend that you kill yourself and never post here again once you're floating in afterlife.
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>>9568564
I experience the same.
I think it is mostly determined by your ability to concentrate, which derives from proper sleep, nutrition, and a clear mind unfogged by rumination or worry about the future.

So overall it can be improved by Having A Good Character and Living A Good Life.

Although I'm currently reading the book "Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha" in which concentration practices are described, I wonder whether they could help.

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Rate my wishlist
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>No Tolstoy
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>>9568341
0/10
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>wishlist
>buying things

WEW.

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>Pynchon is 80.

How long does he have left and will he release another book before he's gone?
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>>9568029
>How long does he have left
Hopefully a lot.
>will he release another book before he's gone
Hopefully not.
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Let me consult my crystal ball.

What a stupid thread.
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>>9568029
pynchon died shortly after inherent vice but his will demanded his death not be announced. he also wanted somebody else to keep writing books under his name. the guy they hired to write bleeding edge didn't work out that well so they're looking for a new one.

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I watched this, am I ready to read Ulysses?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1aBt-_Zs4
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>>9567982
Joyce's daughter is fuckin cute.
She'd be so hipster if she was alive today, just look at her.
Joyce made a good lil psycho bitch.
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>>9568881
That's his wife Nora you ignorant shit.
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>>9569047
Oh you sad deluded ignorant shit.
That is his daughter, Lucia Joyce.

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How come Americans always fall for the "Protagonist has to be likeable" meme?
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fuck you, faggot
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>>9567899
It's not only Americans, it's people who only read YA and pop-fiction and then try to read something more complicated. Look at the 1-star reviews for almost any classic on Goodreads. The most common criticism is that the characters are "unlikable" or "mysoginistic" or "racist". These idiots are so used to having protagonists who perfectly fit their moral standards that they can't comprehend a racist/sexist protagonist. The concept goes completely over their heads.
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>>9568025

I once saw a feminist giving Of Mice and Men 1 star because Curly's wife is only mentioned as Curly's wife with no name. She was extremely offended by it.

Clearly she expects social justice to reach far into the past. The protagonist could have simply not known her name. What's the big deal?

>114 upvotes on that review

Wow

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Mom said she heard a gunshot the other day. I keep hearing fucking noises

Stopped that mid-sentence because a huge beetle flew straight in through my window and crash landed under my bed. It then erratically launched itself several times against my wall before it flew beneath the bed skirt Then it was stuck underneath white I huddled a few feet away, after having leapt from my bed, trailing my sweater on the ground, waiting for the bug to fly out so I could squash it. But it only buzzed, as I tried to steel and tell myself that I am a big man and it is a small bug. It had no chance of hurting me. But still I flinched when it flew out at me, smahsing into the wall agian where I merq’ed it

Sometimes when I think things about the ways people live together they don’t even feel worth writing down for their obviousness. But here we go. Individuals become individualized as societies grew in size, having to find niches within the greater human body in order to justify their existence as a member. This is the only true progression in humans, the development of the self. Each person alive serves some purpose towards the greater body, even as these purpose are contradictory. Culture is something that must be maintained at every moment. When culture breaks down their is trauma. Is the culture breaking down at the level of banality? (These bugs are still whipping desperately against my window. I swear to god the thing is just pushing against my fucking screen and making a blood curdling buzz.) Where even the day to day, for its incecessent awfulness, drains points of culture in entropy. Was this always the case? Of course, but maybe different cultures at different times were better about plugging these wholes, but I suspect the tapestry had to be made completely from scratch laid over the abject. But that doesn’t seem possible. Each person who maintains a reason for living is successful, and they only owe their own culture what they give it. So that seems to suggest that there is no architecture to culture. That it is instead a collected subconscious, and often a physically collected one, in fact, this process might be the thing humans are most efficient at. Even if every level of the United States bureaucracy suddenly disappeared, even its banal symbols like the flag, people would band together in groups that would in some way at least radically be in response to the culture that came before, which as a process is no different than the way we as conscious being are forced to react to every passing moment and so construct a narrative of the present.
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Nearly every night I feel like I want to kill myself. Not kill myself, I know that that would cause too much pain to my parents and I’m too scared anyway. What I imagine is dying in my sleep. That way I have no responsibility. I just stop being. I’ve been lonely for so long too. I think the first time I fell in love was with [REDACTED] in kindergarten, maybe Pre-K. She was the first girl to make my heart feel weaker, I think I loved her. Elementary school was a hard time for me. There was two girls who were considered attractive, and I didn’t find them attractive. At the start of middle school I met [REDACTED]. She was funny, and beautiful. I managed to kiss her. Later she told me over skype she loved me and I was so scared that I never replied. I don’t know where my fear of being loved is from. I don’t know how to love people, I think. I’m unsure. I was bad to [Redacted] when I did that. She didn’t deserve it. I wish I could have been brave and seen if it could have worked out between us. That was 6th grade. In 7th grade I isolated myself by hanging out with nerdy people. I played Yu Gi Oh. The next year I became friends with people again. [REDACTED] had made out with HIM. Why would he do that? I’m glad he’s a fucking addict. Did he have to make out with the first girl I felt something about? I didn’t do anything. And [OTHER GIRL] too. He fucked her in [PARK]. What the fuck is that? I remember watching a cheesy Stephen King movie and HE and I cuddling with her. I think I loved her. HE later told me he saw it as a competition. I didn’t. He slept with her (not sex) in my bed, I slept in the other bed. [OTHER GIRL] was always my friend. Friend. Didn’t see her sexually. I remember how hairy she was when she was wearing a skirt. Everyone messages me now. “Hey ME.” “whats up ME? :)” What is that. I don’t know these people anymore. I wonder, do they just wonder what happened to me? Why I don’t talk to them anymore? I don’t know. I’ve fallen in love a few times. I hate myself . Kill me. Kill me. Kill me. Kill me. Kill me. Kill Me. Kill me. Kill me. Kill me. I want to not be here. I want more to feel that love and give it to someone. I know that can't happen.
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>>9567179
"At the start of middle school I met [REDACTED]. She was funny, and beautiful. I managed to kiss her. Later she told me over skype she loved me and I was so scared that I never replied."
- one of the more beautiful strings of words I've ever read on /lit/
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>>9567179
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you just might find you get what you need.

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Fuck I wrote a big long piece detailing my questions but timed out so here's the essence: I'm trying to understand Debord and Baudrillard in synthesizing what can be best described as a far-right ideology informed by critical theorists and the way post/modernity destroys real human experience.

Is the experience of the boy in James Joyce's "Araby" an example of hyperreality? He has all these fanciful conjurations of the Araby bazaar as a exotic and is disappointed when he encounters the small selection of stalls populated by a guardsman and woman closing up shop. If the hyperreal experience is being presented simulations of the Real to the point you are unfamiliar or even disappointed with the Real, isn't this short story an early 1900s encounter with hyperreality? Is the orientalist understanding of the East?

Take pic-related for example. It's "The Turkish Bath" by Jean-Leon Gerome. European elites at the height of empire would have been consuming this kind of art, what with Circassian odalisques and dreams of the Sultan's harem. The Ottoman Empire in actuality was the "Sick Man of Europe" and an European visitor to Turkey would likely encounter nothing like the exotic images he consumed while in Europe. Orientalism was in this way a hyperreal art movement. Thoughts?

If the hyperreal experience is historical (orientalism for example) is postmodernity merely the condition in which hyperreality has stretched its tentacles beyond exoticism and art and into every fabric of our own society?
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>>9567034
Hypperreality refers more to the inability to distinguish between the real and fantasy to the point where they are one in the same. Disillusionment isn't possible here, you can't have the fantasy shattered.

The distinction of fantasy and reality requires that an experience can differentiate the two. Baudrillard is arguing that we no longer have this experience, that the simulated is real and the real is simulated, and nothing can separate the two, making the entire distinction superfluous, an idea that no longer functions.
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>>9567034
I'm having a hard time figuring out half of what you're saying, but I'll explain a few things about Araby.

You're right that the Bazaar is representative of eastern exoticism, but that's no entirely the point of the story, nor is the boy seeing the dismal stalls when he gets there. I think that calling it hyper-reality would be a big overstatement. The story is about disillusionment of childhood fantasies and notions of love and mysticism. The boy is excited to go to the bazaar because he believe it will make him seem worldly, and likable to the girl he has a crush on if he brings her something back. He goes for this purpose and slowly begins to realize that he's just being incredibly vain. The childish illusions he has of the world begin to shatter as he goes on his bleak, lonesome journey after hours to the bazaar just so he can win some girl he barely knows affection. His illusions finally just shatter when he's staring at the merchandise and realizes how meaningless it is. None of the items he could have bought there have made him seem more appealing, or made him a better person. It's a story about growing up and coming to terms with the bleak reality around you, especially that of Dublin at the time, not any sort of hyper-reality.

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what would you have done to the suitors /lit/?
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why was he so pissed off again, he was mia for 10 years
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Probably the same as Odysseus if I was as ridiculously overpowered as him.
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send them back to calypso, have them perform an infinite conga line

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Are there any noteworthy Mexican books? Like something that instills pride in the hearts of the reader. Like a brown, short, and hairy war and peace
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one of my favorites is Los de abajo by Mariano Azuela; I'd also recommend El laberinto de la soledad by Octavio Paz

there's quite a few, but those two are a good starting point
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>>9566751
Thanks, will check those out as soon as I can
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>>9566737
Pedro paramo
El llano en llamas
La ley de herodes
batallas en el desierto
cartucho

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*deletes Wandering Rocks*
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>>9566407
H A C K
A
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>Highlight Eumaeus
>Choose font
>Wingdings

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>he is interested in math/science/logic and hasn't read Ratner's Star

Halfway through it right now. You guys are missing out. If you've already read it let's talk
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>>9566400
Nigger that shit is gay. Read plus by Joseph mcelroy. Delilo is shit. Libra is his best book btw. Kys.
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>>9566403
Libra is his best but McElroy fucking sucks. Women and Men is some Susan Sontag-tier crap.

>>9566400
Yeah, I really enjoyed Ratner's Star. "Really makes you think." But also increasingly relevant because Californians can't stop being autistic and knowing Delillo it's probably all based on fact (the narrative itself, not just the math/science).

Delillo is neglected on /lit/ because he stays meme-free. /lit/ doesn't know how to come at an author unless he can be memed.

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Is he an anarchist?
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>>9566349
Sort of, at least according to AtD (which I haven't read).

I don't think I can pin him down. He's definitely anti-tech but somehow still knows everything about past and current and future technological advances.
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>>9566374
>He's definitely anti-tech but somehow still knows everything about past and current and future technological advances.

I don't know if he's anti-tech so much as he's anti-how-tech-is-usually-used. He has an engineering background, and probably is fairly interested in science and its applications, but the silicon valley/hyper consumerist mode of technological production is a different animal and worthy of its own critique.
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>>9566490
From a 2003 Guardian article:
>One of the weirdest rumours about Pynchon that circulated in the early 1990s, and which the new film does not discuss, was that he was the Unabomber. On the face of it, there are certain philosophical parallels between Pynchon and the real Unabomber, Theodore Kaczynski, who terrorised victims over two decades by sending explosive packages from his log-cabin hideout in rural Montana. Kaczynski was caught after his brother read the 30,000-word "Manifesto" Kaczynski submitted to US newspapers, and which was printed in full by the Washington Post in 1995. The Manifesto, a tract of romantic primitivism, calls for a "revolutionary" dismantling of modernity and a new life that is "closer to nature". Throughout, it expresses a paranoid-conspiratorial view of what Kaczynski refers to as "the industrial-technological system". This parallels Pynchon's interest in espionage, governmental control and powerful secret societies, such as the alternative postal system in The Crying of Lot 49.

>Kaczynski worries about the destructive power of science; Pynchon's own ambivalence on the subject is expressed in the symbolism of the Nazi V-2 rocket that saturates Gravity's Rainbow. Indeed, in 1984 Pynchon wrote an article for the New York Times Book Review entitled Is it OK to be a Luddite? Rather than a simple call to smash the machines, however, this is a historical analysis of various forms of Luddism and an overview of the challenges posed to modern society by technology.

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What does /lit/ do with books once you've finished reading them? Do you discard them? Sell them? Give them away? How do you decide which of those you don't part with, assuming you don't do any of the above?
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>what are bookshelves
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>>9566212
Ones that I really liked and know I will give them another read are kept, Books that I know I won't read again go to the charity shop.
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I keep most of them. If I'll read them again, or have someone in mind to lend it to, then I'll keep them. Sometimes I sell them to a second hand bookshop, but it's rare I get a book like that because I'm usually certain I'll like something if I buy it.
If it's not my book, I usually give it back, but if I think I'll read it again, I steal it.

>tfw newly blossomed literary genius but I know that my high school teachers have access to cringily bad writing in my rise to power and that these things will create a deep stain on my legacy after they are released after I die

what do, /lit/?
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shutup tysonposter
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They'll have to be silenced.
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>>9566201
id worry more about your e-presence

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