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>>9574179
bloom has a lot of eastern stuff in the western canon. probably just named it that to insulate himself from people he knew would bitch about it being euro-centric

the pali canon

What goal does either one serve, and for who? If you are trying to speak to somebody (maybe just yourself) that wants a dense, interesting world for its own sake then you may make a very detailed world with no particular relationship to the narrative, and your type of reader would think it is amazing and probably review it as "very rich world building, so many things described even though they don't directly relate to the plot. You feel like you are really there" But on the other end you could be totally focused on narrative. Just depends on what you're trying to achieve.

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>>9573661
The way I do it is I, for myself design the world out in it's entirety, down to smallest details, and then I only tell the reader what they need to know, and nothing else. That way it's always consistent and doesn't smother the rest of the story.

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>>9573520
>Philip K. DICK

>>9573520
Racism

The Divine Invasion and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer are both better books than VALIS. VALIS is good but it's a mess and has huge sections that drag on forever.

>he only has the one authorial voice

>>9573471

I think people would be shocked because when I communicate online it's way more thought out and I use words I wouldn't when speaking, in person I talk just like typical people around my area and probably sound pretty dense.

>>9573471
Bumping with another question, that probably could have had its own thread but what the hell. Did you guys know about this? It's called persuasive language.
>tfw to be a really good writer you have to master all of these techniques
Despair...


Assumptive Adverb Opener: Obviously, it works.
Connection Language: Attaching and pushing away.
Experiential Language: Talk about real experience.
Final Impact: Put the impact at the end of the sentence.
Future Language: Using the future in persuasion.
Hidden Commands: Burying commands in sentences.
The Hook: Grabbing them.
Intensifiers: increasing the emotional impact of a statement.
Money Words: Appeal to greed.
Object Focus: Focus on the object and let the subject slip by.
Perceptual language: What you perceive, not what is.
Possibility Language: Talking about what could be.
Power Words: Words that have special meaning.
The Power of Abbreviation: Short but powerful.
Pre-apology: Sorry, but...
Pre-excusing: This may not work, but ...
Pre-thanking: Thank you for...
Pronoun Language: I, you and so on add power.
Punch Words: Words with impact.
Sensory Language: Language that evokes senses.
Short Sentences: Like this. That work. Of course.
Superiority Words: That grab status.
Temporal Language: Changing time and hence meaning.
Trivializing Words: Deflating what others say.
Using Pauses: Adding power with very largely nothing.

this might be stranger than you're looking for, but try michael cisco. 'the divinity student' is a good place to start and has some detective-like elements (e.g. someone is trying to discover a secret language). 'the tyrant' also by cisco might work too

Gordon Cole had a portrait of Kafka in his office for a reason.

The Metamorphosis
Anything by Robbe-Grillet
Invitation to a beheading
Most of Philip K Dick

Julio Cortázar.

>>9573418
This is not /r9k/.

>>9573931
it's still 4chan

>Being a manlet
Kill yourself my dude.

>>9573390
>redpill

You need to go back.

Was he supporting Hitler?

>>9573398
I had hoped for more intelligent Convo

>>9572984
Fear an Loathing is great, but F&L on the campaign trail is his absolute best, and desu, some of the best writing I've ever read. Funny, sincere, scathing, honest.

>>9572984
i'm not that into f&l actually but i like his other shit, the hell's angels book, the various stories in great shark hunt, and most of all f&l on the campaign trail 72.

campaign trail is the best thing by him i've read but it might be hard to follow if you're not familiar with that election, because he wrote that as election coverage for rolling stone and assumes the reader knows what's happening. what i've done is read it after first reading nixonland, the last part of which concerns the 72 election from a more detached historical perspective, and then you get this immediate, subjective, emotional take on the same events from f&l on the campaign trail.

>>9572984
He's just ok.

do you mean like fiction about "the daily grind"?
philosophy for how to deal with "the daily grind"?
or maybe something more marxist that criticizes "the daily grind"?

How does anyone enjoy the "daily grind"? I've met people who are proud of it

>>9572759
Anything honestly

It is kind of fascinating to me, I just recently made the shift from student to wageslave and it is not depressing, not satisfying, just meh.

>>9572770
I guess there are a few jobs that actually let you do things that you enjoy?

Dunno desu

Fuck literal wageslaves tho that defend working just because they're bitter and don't want to see anyone else enjoying life.

>>9572747
little too verbose imo (and, and). not very funny but whatever.

your work experience/education? now that's gay. can you define yourself another way.

It's alright. Normies might find it a bit of a downer, both too self-deprecating and hubristic.

>>9572758
What the fuck should I write?

They have asked for "Likes, Dislikes , funny story , family , adventures"

But I'm not willing to tell just anybody about that sort of thing, I'm just not that kind of person and it's essentially just doxxing yourself for no reason.

>>9572676
I can program for 20 hours in full focus but barely read a page of prose. I only browse this board to think about how I could some day read one of these cool books you cool guys read.

>>9572676
Yeah, except it's way harder for me to focus on a movie than read.
Anyone have concentration tips/supplementation? Can't find Adderall unfortunately

>>9572685
I use modafinil but sometimes I get distracted and post on /lit/ for hours (like now). On a good day I can write for 3/4 hours without stopping. I will probably try:

>Meditation.
This has helped me in the past with focus and anxiety
>Exercise
Been sitting on my ass all day builds up a lot of energy I'm not releasing.
>Therapy
Personal issues are shit.

Not unless you're a 80 year old babushka seeking to relive the tender childhood memories of being shoved history of Bolshevik country down her throat in school, or a angry alcoholic Russian high-school drop out with no bright perspectives in life LARPing as a Stalinist.

>>9572781
I'm an anarchist and even I think it's good to critically read Stalin's "Dialectical and Historical Materialism". It helps to see the ideology which underpinned the Soviet Union's ruling class and their actions.

>>9572816
Why is it important to see the ideology which underpinned the Soviet Union's ruling class? Surely there are more important and interesting things to read about.

>>9572602
lovecraft

>>9572619
Yep, read all of his stuff.

>>9572602
Neon Genesis Evangelion

Would you let Lyle lick you?

I love how a lot of the stories start off mildly relatable then become gradually morbid.

Do any of you engage in Marathe/Steeply style conversations on a regular basis? I wish I had it like that, but maybe I just need cooler friends.

>>9572632
The only friend I can genuinely talk to like that is more autistic and socially awkward than I am.

When we do eventually get together it's so nice to have someone to wax philosophical with in a non-judgemental way.

>>9572632

The M*A*S*H related one was pretty sick and it ended just perfectly.

No. No book has ever argued for nihilism.

Why write a book arguing for nihilism when your writings and everything ever will eventually be destroyed?