I can talk about Jesus Christ here.
How does living in sin make you feel?
Does it hurt you inside to know you're hurting God when you keep sinning?
Did you know that God won't forgive you if you commit a sin after you know it's wrong?
>>8687769
Give me proof that Jesus was a real person. I'll wait.
>>8687769
did you know the main biblical "objections" to homosexuality are in the Old Testament, a set of Jewish books that are mostly superseded by the New?
did you know God is love and forgiveness, not the hate you falsely spread in His name?
>>8687775
It's fairly accepted that historically speaking Jesus was a real man who lived.
>>8687769
where does it say that anon-chan?
>>8687777
oh it is? please cite your source.
>>8687777
>It's fairly accepted
[citation needed]
Because no it isn't.
>>8687784
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
I'm not acting on my gayness so I should be okay with Jesus
>>8687776
Leviticus 18
Romans 1
1 Corinthians 6
God doesn't change, God hates homosexuals so much they were to be put to death.
Jesus didn't destroy the law or the law of the prophets
>>8687785
You might as well have cited the bible.
In fact I bet you wouldn't see the problem with that.
>>8687787
Jesus never existed. You cannot prove that he did. I don't give a shit what a book said. It was written by men with an agenda and has no divine inspiration that you can prove.
>>8687769 >id you know that God won't forgive you if you commit a sin after you know it's wrong?
where does it say that
>>8687793
You can't prove Abhrham Lincoln ever existed.
>>8687797
>There is no physical or archaeological evidence for Jesus. All sources are documentary, mainly Christian writings, such as the gospels and the purported letters of the apostles. The authenticity and reliability of these sources has been questioned by many scholars, and few events mentioned in the gospels are universally accepted.
And why would Christians lie?
>>8687793 please go back to tumblr
>>8687802
for real, I'm not religious but that's completely counter to every Christian teaching I've ever heard, and I feel like the Catholic Church would have a bone to pick cause it kinda invalidates the idea of confession
>>8687802
Hebrews 10:26-27
>>8687807
No, there are zero authentic non-Christian sources that Jesus was real. This is all bullshit to try to control people. I'm not retarded and hopefully you are not either.
>>8687812
Christianity was the ultimate product of religious syncretism in the ancient world. Its emergence owed nothing to a holy carpenter. There were many Jesuses but the fable was a cultural construct.
The nativity yarn is a concatenation of nonsense. The genealogies of Jesus, both Matthew's version and Luke's, are pious fiction. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs.
With multiple authors behind the original gospel story it is no surprise that the figure of "Jesus" is a mess of contradictions. Yet the story is so thinly drawn that being a "good Christian" might mean almost anything.
The 12 disciples are as fictitious as their master, invented to legitimise the claims of the early churches. The original Mary was not a virgin, that idea was borrowed from pagan goddesses. The pagan world knew all about virgins getting pregnant by randy gods: The Mythical "Virgin Mother".
Scholars have known all this for more than 200 years but priestcraft is a highly profitable business and finances an industry of deceit to keep the show on the road.
"Jesus better documented than any other ancient figure"? Don't believe a word of it. Unlike the mythical Jesus, a real historical figure like Julius Caesar has a mass of mutually supporting evidence.
>>8687826
How about you read your bible instead of sitting in this hug box?
>>8687831
I don't like fairy tales.
>>8687812
That reads to me as a warning against apostasy. It does not mean sin cannot be forgiven in Christ, but if upon learning truth in Christ you leave it, you leave salvation.
>>8687839
>it is well documented
by Christians
>>8687843
Jesus could be a real guy who lived, but that doesn't mean the mythical figure Jesus was.
>>8687848
Neither are true.
>>8687843 Christians were the historians of Europe for hundreds of years, what im talking about was the evidence that some of the apostles were crucified. i am not a christian but i believe he was real
>>8687859
Based on what?
>>8687866
Based on history
Jesus Christ existed because we're still talking about him
>>8688005
lol that is insanely fallacious
I hope Islam takes over the west, you fags deserve it for demonizing Christianity. Something will fill that void :)
>>8688005
?????? Literally any fairy tail we're still talking about in current date can be proven true following your reasoning???¿ Lol idiot
>>8687769
How does living in idolatry make you feel ?
Does it hurt you inside to know you're hurting God when you keep sinning?
Did you know that God won't forgive you if you commit a sin after you know it's wrong?
>>8687769
God is a very accepting man, he doesnt punish he doesnt discriminate, god only accepts. God didnt gave us a brain if he didnt want us to use it and make our own decissions. Whether you feel like you live in sin is not for anyone to decide except for you, you are the one who decides if your own actions are right or wrong and if you can live with those actions. But God accepts everyone including you.
God doesn't exist. And even if he did I would gladly accept eternal punishment in hell, it is my fetish
>>8687866
Of the first generation apostles who actually knew Jesus and were martyred, several were documented by the government's who committed the act. It's hard to imagine they'd let themselves be killed over this grand like they all made about some dude they never actually met.
They were one removed from him, so they HAD to have been the ones who made him up.
>>8688382
Surviving government documentation of the original apostles sounds huge. Out of curiousity, can I have a source on that?
>TfW no Catholic tranny GF to take to mass with me and watch me roast Fedorians on the Interweb.
>>8688387
The historian Josephus recorded James' death by Herod. Idk about any government records like Anon is referring to.
>>8687769
>>8687787
>>8688492
“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." John 13:34
>How does living in sin make you feel?
Pretty good.
>Does it hurt you inside to know you're hurting God when you keep sinning?
Maybe he should grow some thicker skin and quit being a faggot.
>Did you know that God won't forgive you if you commit a sin after you know it's wrong?
Then why should I care at this point? lol
You need to go back.
>>>/pol/
>>8688584
Christian bigots: but obviously he didn't mean the undesirable freaks right?
>cures a leper
>hangs out with tax collectors and sinners
>>8688584
GO AND SIN NO MORE
>GO AND SIN NO MORE
GO AND SIN NO MORE
>GO AND SIN NO MORE
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN
YOU WILL NOT GET INTO HEAVEN IF YOU CONTINUE SINNING AFTER READING THIS
>>8688838
What if the Muslims are right?
>>8688849
Excuse me but you need to keep /pol/ on /pol/.
This thread is about homosexual perversion and the bible.
>>8688859
What if the Christian scripture is wrong and the Quran is right? What will you do then?
>>8688838
Is that Kate from Life is Strange? Don't use such a kind soul like that
>>8688584
>1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
>>8687769
Does it hurt being a retard?
>>8688584
>Romans 1:21-32
"For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
>>8688868
Christians have a tendency to appropriate everything good for themselves and say it was their's all along.
God's not real, OP.
>>8688888
How funny.
I've noticed how homosexuals ruin everything when they're told that their sins are okay.
>>8688892
Yeah, the quints don't lie, faggot. Christians can get fucked.
lol keep worshiping your middle eastern jewish god
>>8688838
But we are free of the laws of Moses, I might as avoid shellfish or fabrics made of mixed fibers.
And if you bring up Sodom and Gomorrah, that's old testament as well, on top of being a sick story about awful rapists and monsters. Are you saying all gay people are rapists? Because that's what that story conflates us with.
I've been in a stable loving relationship with the same woman for the past 13 years. We do not lie, cheat, or steal, and are faithful.
How is this a sin?
>>8688893
>>8688901
>>8688902
Oh you're so hateful!
You're just filled with hate!
YOU ARE SO INTOLERANT!
>>8688904
Do you actually expect him to give you a real answer? He'll just wash his hands of criticism and continue on with his autism.
>>8688907
Confirmed underage shitposter.
>>8688908
So this is how your mind games work?
You just pretend I don't believe the things I'm saying?
>>8688919
Alright, do you believe that everything in the old testament is absolutely true, including the shrimp and fabric maymays?
> Straight people can be nation wrecking degenerates at they'll be excused
> I just need to mention I like dicks and I get hanged for it
Christianity: not known for morals.
>>8688908
Not really no, it does get interesting when you have several bibles on your shelf, took many classes under biblical scholars, gone over multiple different translations.
I like to think that, we have improved and become a better people in the past several thousand years since the bible was written, and some of the advice from thousands of years ago has been amended. Seeing what applies now, and what is no longer valid is that tricky part.
>>8688925
>>8688936
Everything written in the bible is true.
God wouldn't lie.
According to the bible, we need to get rid of homosexuals and their ilk before A SINGLE LETTER OF THE LAW IS DESTROYED.
Repent of your wicked ways before you're all consumed with diseases.
>>8688942
The truth is only available to the sincere of heart.
>>8688942
I get that you're trying to piss off le reddit fedora tippers, but you are aware that what you are doing is making 4chan even more insufferable than r/atheism right?
>>8687769
Jesus had a golden opportunity to condemn homosexuality when he condemned the men of Sodom
But he didn't
He condemned their lack of hospitality and hostility toward strangers traveling in their midst
Just like Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel did when discussing Sodom
He condemned what you're doing with this thread, OP
>>8688952
I'm not trying to piss anyone off, you're just running your little mind games again to try and feel better.
I'm here because you people need to stop wickedness before God destroys all of you.
>"Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen."
>>8688965
Your Christian rp skills are weak. Try Reddit.
>>8688942
Everything?
Even the contradictions?
>>8688965
This verse in context is about the pagan practice of shrine prostitution. I doubt anyone here a sacred temple prostitute of the mother goddess Cybele.
>>8688974
Yeah, this. It's sorta cringe.
>>8688942
Which version?
You can argue that King James is the only one to go by, but the original language varies wildly.
It's a collection of what were the most important literary works of the time, some of them stories, and some of them laws and rules. Context has to be taken into account, or you can literally cut and paste paragraphs to say literally anything you want.
>>8688974
You are truly a fool running mind games.
Thank you so much for this.
I would never forget the God of my youth and I never will and I will never forget the things I've been taught.
>>8689021
If you're going to try and keep this shit going at least put effort into it.
>>8688999
I don't use versions only translations.
Have you even read the bible?
At what point does it start out by saying, "This is a work of fiction"?
It never does, it all flows together.
If one part of the bibles history is proven true, everything else in it must be true as well.
>>8689031
>it all flows together
>if one part of the bible is true, everything else must be true
>>8689025
Did you want me to quote you more scriptures?
"“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
>Leviticus 20:13
>>8689036
So now you'll result to insults instead of logic and faith?
>Matthew 28:18-20
"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
>>8689037
We've already been over this one, this is Old Testament. Jesus's redemption freed us from the laws of Moses. Try again.
>>8688942
Literally true, or metaphorically true?
>>8689044
>Matthew 5:17-20
"“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
“But I warn you—unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!"
>2 Timothy 3
"You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that!
They are the kind who work their way into people’s homes and win the confidence of vulnerable women who are burdened with the guilt of sin and controlled by various desires. (Such women are forever following new teachings, but they are never able to understand the truth.)"
>>8687769
>1 Corinthians 6:19
"Don't you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself"
>>8689055
So how goes your parallel campaigns against people who eat shellfish or mix fabrics? Because you're not a hypocrite, right?
OP sounds like a repressed homosexual.
He should get that fixed.
The repression that is, not the homosexuality.
>>8689070
WHAT GOES INTO THE MOUTH GOES INTO THE SEWER
WHAT COMES OUT OF A MANS HEART DEFILES HIM
>>8689055
These arent even relevant verses and it's really lazy to just copy and paste this shit and think people give a shit.
>>8689076
Are you the one I responded to? Are you contradicting the bible's teachings? If you are not a heathen you really should be moving to the coast and beginning your campaign in that hotbed of sin.
>>8689073
You probably would have called Jesus a homo too!
>>8689078
It's also really interesting how Christian roleplayers always seem to believe there's one unified faith and like there's not 10 million branches of Christianity that believe 10 million different things, including different beliefs on whether Christians are bound to the Old Covenant and why or why not. Like, they can't even get their shit straight internally and still squabble over baptism or what the fuck ever, let alone start agreeing on everything.
>>8689085
Of course. He did show no sexual interest in the women he met nor in his mom, and he traveled around with 12 hot studs.
Anyone could see how gay that is.
>>8689094
I have read actual acadamic theories, not meem stuff, that argue that Paul was a self-hating gay.
>>8689089
You're literally playing mind games, I could give you the exact date I was baptized, which was over 10 years ago.
>>8689084
I almost went to a different country to preach but never did.
>>8689094
Jesus Christ was NOT A HOMOSEXUAL.
Jesus Christ was perfect.
You're not perfect, no matter how much our society willingly tickles your ears.
>>8689122
>You're not perfect, no matter how much our society willingly tickles your ears.
You know, it goes both ways.
>>8689122
>different country to preach
Not really what I was asking. If you see the old testament as still valid then when was the last time you railed against eating shellfish or mixing fabrics?
>>8689122
You seem to miss my point. You go all "I'm baptized" like it's a universally uniform practice, but didn't even mention what church you attend. Some will baptize any fucker that shows up and it means nothing merely to be baptized.
>>8689122
>Jesus Christ was NOT A HOMOSEXUAL.
Well he wasn't exactly straight either, with the whole sexual disinterest in his mom, and telling a hooker to "sin no more" instead of giving in to primitive straight people instincts and violently rape her in the streets.
From these peculiar decisions we can safely conclude that Jesus Christ could not have been a straight man.
>>8689150
That anon's just going to reply he choose to be celibate because that's godly.
>>8689152
Straight people could not hope to be celibate because they cannot control their sex urges.
>>8689165
Plenty of people can control their sex urges, especially to the point of turning down a prostitute. It is never specifically mentioned whether or not jesus was gay, but to say that him not fucking a prostitute makes him gay is just stupid.
>>8689174
>Plenty of people can control their sex urges
But not straight people.
>>8689177
There is a better argument to be made for gay people not controlling their sexual urges honestly, what with the STD transmission rate being what it is. If you are going to make a stupid argument like that then it is the gays who will come out on the losing end.
You can control your urges regardless of your orientation.
>>8689137
I don't know what scripture you're talking about exactly but I understand your point no less.
Jesus did set new laws for us at the sermon on the mount found at Matthew chapters 5 through 7.
Around Matthew 5:43 Jesus tells us to love everyone.
Christians don't stone homosexuals anymore - but that still doesn't make the act of homosexuality okay - which is why 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ensures us that homosexuals will not infiltrate heaven.
>>8689139
No, I had to prove I understood the majority of Christian teachings and the accompanying scriptures before I could be baptized.
>>8689150
In order for Jesus's death to have meant anything - He would have needed to have been perfect.
Adam was perfect and sinned.
It required a perfect body to be sacrificed for all of mankind.
>>8689202
What church, then? You had to understand their teachings. There's no universal teachings, that's my point.
>>8689202
> infiltrate heaven.
Why would we ever want to be with you ?
>>8689190
>what with the STD transmission rate being what it is.
That's just because anal is that risky.
And really the only outlier for STD transmission is hiv.
And there might just be a reason why 99.99% of public decency laws are aimed at straight people.
But the self hate in you will probably ignore all of this in favor of the image if the sinful homosexual.
>>8689202
>Adam was perfect and sinned.
That's the dumbest thing I've read since the moment I went off my bed. And I've read a lot of dumb things since then.
>>8689202
>He would have needed to have been perfect.
Ergo he could not have been straight.
>Adam was perfect and sinned.
To imagine that original sin turned Adam into a raging heterosexual.
The horror.
>>8689213
>self-hate
You are the hateful one here, friend. You seem to hate straight people and imply that they specifically are unable to control their sexual urges. I don't hate myself or my sexuality, which is why I said that argument was stupid to begin with, because everyone is an individual and able to control themselves. Unlike you, who outright said that straight people cannot.
>>8689228
It's clear you consider lgbt people inferior to straights, who in your eyes cannot do wrong.
Something that can only be the result of years of brainwashing and indoctrination.
>>8689202
The confirmation I was looking for was whether or not there is scripture against homosexuality in the new testament, thank you for providing it to me. I don't see what makes the act of homosexuality anything like the other things in that scripture that actually hurt people but that's the bible being arbitrary is it often is.
>>8689245
>it's clear that you see straights as being able to do no wrong
where?
>lgbt people inferior to straights
yes, with that homophobic gem of "You can control your urges regardless of your orientation." That definitely shows a mindset of thinking one group is inferior to others, not "giving in to primitive straight people instincts and violently rape her in the streets."
>>8689208
These days I just read my bible and pray from home.
>>8689211
Jesus promised us that if we give up our sins, even if we enjoy them, that we'll be happy in heaven but we can't get into heaven if we continue on in sin.
>Hebrews 10:26-27
"Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins. There is only the terrible expectation of God’s judgment and the raging fire that will consume his enemies."
>>8689216
You should read your bible, you might have to search around a bit but eventually you'll find Genesis.
>>8689220
Your insults won't work at the pearly gates.
>>8689245
It's extremely clear that a homosexual way of life is not a clean way of life.
Gays and bisexuals are responsible for almost all of the transmissions.
And something like 1 in 7 doesn't even know they have HIV/AIDS.
This is a dangerous life style, have respect for your holy temple that can house the holy spirit.
>>8689260
>gays and bisexuals are responsible for nearly all STD transmissions
So is it the STD transmissions and the HIV/AIDS that you do not like, because it is dangerous?
>>8689260
>Non-descript denomination Christian throwing around verses and "I just study from home" to excuse copy pasting empty platitudes
>Can't even discuss good v evil beyond basic 'its icky' and bible spam
You're a waste of a tripcode.
>>8689260
So it was it actually a secret cult or something instead of a wholesome Christian church? Why the reluctance to say the name?
>>8689277
No, I hate what God hates.
I think God probably hates your sin because of things it produces.
They're typically counter productive to a healthy society.
>>8689281
He's probably Branch Davidian or some crazy shit.
>>8689280
>>8689281
If you read your bible translations you would see they all say more or less the same thing.
>original sin was eating a fruit
>original sin was killing a gay man and eating his corpse
>>8689287
Just like God hates shellfish and the mixing of fabrics?
>>8689296
>there are no theological debates or schisms in the whole of the christian faith
Just google a list of churches and pick one instead of this bullshit.
>>8689260
>Jesus promised us that if we give up our sins, even if we enjoy them, that we'll be happy in heaven but we can't get into heaven if we continue on in sin.
Doesn't answer my question actually.
>>8689260
>Your insults won't work at the pearly gates.
I don't need to fling shit at the pearly gates because your kind has smeared yours all over it.
There's nothing I could produce in an entire lifetime of sin that could ever defile the pearly gates any more than what your kind has done to it.
In a strange way I feel for God, being stuck with the likes of you.
You think he cries when Jesus isn't looking?
I'm leaving now.
I pray that you all stop sinning and start living clean lives in Christ Jesus.
Read Matthew chapter 5 through 7 tonight and pray to Jesus to help you stop sinning.
If you have questions, please come to /pol/, we're a Christian board.
And remember.
WE WORSHIP GOD IN THIS COUNTRY!
>>8689326
I pray that you repent of your idolatry.
>come to /pol/, we're a Christian board.
Very funny.
>WE WORSHIP GOD IN THIS COUNTRY!
That's even more funny.
>>8689326
Every time I post my studies and sources there your ilk just stop responding or say "nice (((source)))" followed by old innacurate infographics.
>come to /pol/ instead where you'll just get shouted down and trolled instead of being given serious debate
yeah sure nice thing buddy
>he turned out to be a frogposter
May God smite you on the way out.
He hurt me first by making me who I am, so he deserves the hurt back just as much as he made me in a way that I'd do such a thing. I see no problem.
>>8687854
Not that I agree with christians but argument one is that
>jesus is a real guy
and the second one
>who lived
We know for a fact that was a common name back in the day so your counter argument is invalid because people named "Jesus" were real and lived.
>>8687769
Eh, if some god is that petty than I'm not really concerned with pleasing him.
>>8687769
Does self loathing count?
If I know being a butt slut is social corruption and therefore cheer those who arent in shame, since society never really forgives you and takes you back, isnt it self sacrifice?
My hole serves a holy purpose. It makes an example out of me, it provides tests of faith to others, and I suffer cruelty so that men have a choice to be moral. My self degradation allows free will.
So when you think about it, I've martyred my life for God's plan. Every drunken man who has used me as a cumdump was given free will and a chance to learn moral shame.
My ass is a holy instrument upon which I've been sacrificed to further the choice for redemption and a godly life.
That makes me pretty pious, if you ask me.
And you did.
>>8687769
Actually, the bits in the Bible written by Leviticus denouncing homosexuality are not interpreted correctly, as they where written at a time when homosexuality was connected to idle worship. But no such forms of worship exist anymore, so... yeah. Homosexuality certainly isn't bad, even by biblical standards, because it isn't connected to idle worship. This vid explains it well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=leIcLYj3I3U
(And please stop making moderate Christians look like assholes)
>>8687769
I don't believe in God, I don't believe in sin, so why should I care?
>>8692139
Because you're not the center of the universe, buttercup.
>>8692474
Neither are you or your believe system
>>8692480
I'm not.
God is.
And I pray that our society starts to wake up and see the homosexual problem for what it is
>>8692503
The problem is that you can't argue with something the other party doesn't believe in. That only makes you look like a retard
>>8692508
Which is why I hate the entire gay community.
You shove your beliefs down our throats and no one was raised wanting to hear about your perversions and yet you have tricked people with the help of big pharma in order to make society think what you do is normal.
>"Yeah, poz my neg hole."
>>8692519
How do we shove our believes down someone's throat? What believes are you even talking about?
>>8692527
Why do you keep respectfully asking a worthless disease to share it's worthless opinions?
>>8692534
Because it's entertaining
>>8692537
There's nothing entertaining about worthless dog shit running it's mouth like usual.
>>8688838
transbian master race
>>8692546
Mutilators of the flesh will also burn in hell.
Circumcision doesn't count.
>>8687769
>Soul is shilling Christ again
>>8692593
hypocrisy.txt
>try to convert to christianity about 3 times in the past few years since 2014
>never works because its obviously bs
>still think itd be better for me and society in general if i became a catholic and so ive converted anyway
Feela good handing out stuff and helping people tbqh
>>8692631
People who get circumcised aren't mentally ill reprobates.
>>8692647
>Americans
>not mentally ill reprobates
LOL
keep telling yourself mutilation is only okay if the sky father tells you to do it
>>8687769
god gave me this horrible body.
people have been mistaking me for a woman for a long time even before i started sinning.
god hasn't simply failed me, HE WRONGED ME
>>8687769
This is the dumbest fucking thread on this entire board and I'm dumber for having read it
>>8687776
Romans 1:21-32New International Version (NIV)
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
>>8687769
You know you also live in sin?
Probably you're wearing poliester, you eat porrk, you aren't circumcised and you don't know how to drink water from a fountain in the christian way. See you in hell
>>8693146
God didn't ruin your body.
Satan did.
>>8693266
Stop sinning, you're making God cry.
God's watching you.
>>8687769
>homosexuality
>any more of a sin than usual sex
>implying sin is a moral judgement and not simply something that is preventing you from transcending the physical plain
Christianity died with the Cathars, anything else is heresy.
>>8687769
>Did you know that God won't forgive you if you commit a sin after you know it's wrong?
Sauce?
Is there anything in the bible that suggests being trans is sinful?
Which sex would it not be sin for trans women to sleep with?
I just talked with God, he said lgbt is ok.
>>8687769
>Did you know that God won't forgive you if you commit a sin after you know it's wrong?
It's not sinning if I don't know the truth of God.
>It's that shitposter from /pol/ again.
At least you're not posting dead trannies like you do in /pol/, guess you're too fat to walk towards your router and restart it.
Good job getting 150+ replies though.
Bisexual transwoman and also a Wiccan here, how far into the firey depths of hell is your violent hateful God supposedly going to throw me?
>>8693475
>Bisexual transwoman
>>8693241
Literally the very next verses in chapter 2 say "therefore... Do not judge".
Dividing it into arbitrary verses and chapters was one of the shittiest thing the middle ages did to the Bible.
>>8692640
You're not a real Catholic unless you're consumed by guilt.
>>8692122
People like you need to die. Seriously. You're making the job of serious, genuine gay believers harder. No it's not about idol worship only. It's about a man not having sex with a man as with a woman. I detest you.
>>8689301
What an interesting theory.
>>8693525
>It's about a man not having sex with a man as with a woman
Luckily gay sex is about having sex with a man as you would a man so it's nonsense any way.
>>8693549
Which is why anal sex isn't "gay sex" it's just a revolting attempt at emulating straight people. Wich is also why there are two verses condemning it in slightly different terms Leviticus 18:22 says "you" will not have sex with a man as with a woman. But what if the "you" can also designate women as well ? Women having sex with men as one has sex with a woman. Strap-ons, things like that. You never hear anyone using this verse to talk about this.
>>8693618
How effective have you found it is to tell people who don't believe in your big Jew in the sky that he's upset with their behavior?
>>8693266
well, to be fair, exodus describes the covenant between god & moses.
moses & HIS people [the jews].
however, the pharisees have routinely violated the mosaic law, whilst claiming it to be in god's name, which sounds a lot like a deeply grave form of blasphemy, & my bigbro says it is blasphemy, & that it is indeed very grave.
basically, bigbro told me the parable of the 2 sons, as told by jesus, & that jesus said that for being the latter sons, the pharisees would be the last ones to ever be considered for getting remaining in heaven, if ever.
& i think god did warn that if the hebrews or their descendants should go on disappointing him, he would find other peoples instead.
so, yahweh was indeed an ethnic god who ceases to be.
god's covenant w/ the gentiles is through jesus christ, so i'm told.
also, on an unrelated note, based on bigbro's description, heaven isn't really a place, but rather a time, when god returns everyone his breath of life, w/ new bodies & everything, to be judged, this particular time is i think is called 'rapture'.
should they be judged unworthy, they will be destroyed 1ce more, never to be ressurrected again.
that is hell.
should they be judged as worthy, they will be welcomed into the kingdom of heaven, also known as the "millennial kingdom", ruled by the christian messiah, jesus christ for 1000 years, where they will remain until it ends.
i have no idea what happens 1ce that millennium passes though :/
>>8693982
Do you have any clue how stupid this all sounds? Like, this could be the plot of a Sonichu comicm
>>8688884
Reminder that Paul was a Pharisee who had a seizure, believed god made him an apostle, and tried to reintroduce pharisaical legalism into christianity after Jesus explicitly threw it out.
>>8693997
well, i'm not making this up.
this is all stuff my bigbro told me, & he converted to christianity, he has a bible, he reads it, & he seems to be very devout
>>8694006
You may not have made it up but some dudes 1800 years ago did.
>>8694053
well, the point is that the gentiles are not bound by mosaic law.
they are bound by the laws handed down by jesus
>>8687816
Heh.
>>8693383
You are coming to hell with me, and my dick will be waiting for it
>>8694003
>Paul
>The guy who said "the only remaining commandments are love God and love each other"
>Legalistic
Kek. The mistake was people centuries after Jesus died getting together and saying random letters he wrote to specific churches was "canon", and then the church later on then declaring those letters as the word of God.
>>8693982
I'm pretty sure your brother is retarded and doesn't understand the parable. God only speaks to His children, and if you are not Jewish it's not your father talking to you but someone else's Father
>>8694143
>>god did warn that if the hebrews or their descendants should go on disappointing him, he would find other peoples instead
>>so yahweh was indeed an ethnic god who ceases to be [ethnic].
>completely ignored
also, it's a parable.
you are taking parables far too literally.
buddha told parables too.
would you say that buddha's parables are strictly true only in the contexts they are given?
i think maybe that's retarded
>>8687806
Not him, but it's pretty obvious that a group whose entire faith depends on the existence of a man to have a biased motive in trying to prove said man existed.
>>8693982
Heaven not being a place but a time is a very specific belief held only by a few denominations like Jehovah's witnesses. If your brother is one of those, nothing he believes will be representative of what 99% of Christians believe.
>>8694195
>Cite
Not him, but Luke 10:25–37.
Jesus tells people to love thy neighbors, and when asked who falls under that category, he tells the story of the good Samaritan, indicating that everyone is a neighbor. He also literally says that everyone is a child of God and there is no slave and owner, father and son, etc.
>>8694300
Don't come to me with the Good Samaritan shit. That parable tells you to take out your prejudices, but it doesn't say anything about the salvation of the gentiles, and that's because gentiles are not to be saved
>>8694195
II Kings 17:7-8 :
For so it was that the children of Israel had sinned against the LORD their God, who had brought them up out of the land of Egypt, . . . and they had feared other gods, and had walked in the statutes of the nations whom the LORD had cast out from before the children of Israel.
II Kings 17:18-20 :
The LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them from His sight. . . . Also Judah did not keep the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made. And the LORD rejected all the descendants of Israel, afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of plunders, until He had cast them from His sight.
Numbers 15:15-16
The assembly is to have the same statute for both you and the foreign resident as a permanent statute throughout your generations. You and the foreigner are equal before YHVH. The same law and the same ordinance will apply to both you and the foreigner who resides with you.
>>8693508
I had a devil dream last night if that makes any sense.
What kind of guilt though? Just guilt in general? I thinkc everyone has that to a certain point.
>>8694353
Nice bullshit. The first and the second reference just speaks about the falling of Israel. But as I don't consider you a total retarded I'm pretty sure you read II Kings 18:5-7
Hezekiah trusted in the Lord, the God of Israel. There was no one like him among all the kings of Judah, either before him or after him. He held fast to the Lord and did not stop following him; he kept the commands the Lord had given Moses. And the Lord was with him; he was successful in whatever he undertook.
Books are meant to be read from the beginning to the end, otherwise you may lose something inbetween.
Also, Numbers sais nothing about the salvation of the gentiles. You are not only a faggot but an ignorant. Do yourself a favor, pick the Book and read it.
>>8694360
People born into the Catholic faith are taught very deep shame in any sin they may commit and anything that goes against church orthodoxy.
>>8694332
Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"
Why don't you actually read the Bible instead of having people do it for you?
Wtf is this. You people should know that God is whatever you want him to be because he is your little imaginary friend moral compass.
>>8694437
Not to mention the most repeated verse in the Bible, John 3:16 says WHOSOEVER believeth, not whosoever believeth and is Jewish.
>>8694437
You are comparing an epistle with the word of God? That's just an interpretation of Paul, not the word of God nor Christ. Your lack of knowledge amazes me.
>>8694437
Yet the same God who supposedly says this also says men shouldn't crossdress or lie with men as women (which is specifically against SRS, sodomy being covered in other passages).
>>8694489
Depends on your interpretation. All passages of the Bible we're originally written in a dead language. Translating this shit into modern concepts that literally didn't exist at the time will never be entirely accurate
>>8694713
>dead language
I hope no one ever takes you seriously
>read Sodom and Gomorrah
>the good guy is an incestuous drunkard who offers his own daughters to get gangraped by a group of strangers
Was that supposed to teach me right and wrong? Kek
>>8695334
The Bible is the literal Word of God, not men (don't look behind the curtain)
Ezekiel 23:20
>>8695334
Homosexuals and their ilk were so demented and filled with lusty, lusty lust that they wanted to gangrape two perfect angels just to get their sick perverted jollies off.
God is going to punish the wicked with unquenchable hellfire.
Those men of Sodom and Gomorrah are still screaming in agony to this day in the depths of hell.
>>8695299
Find a modern Greek who speaks fluent Ancient Greek. Or a modern Jew who knows how to pronounce ancient Hebrew.
I will wait.
Or since you speak English, I assume you'll understand this:
ældu englisc sy déadhrægl
>>8695448
Except it was customary to rape strangers in that area and time period if you rejected them. To make them womanly was the ultimate defiling.
But yeah. God doesn't care that his angels we're almost raped. He just cares it was GAY rape.
>>8695479
You're so perverted and twisted that the things you speak even smell of filth.
Stop sinning you wicked child of the devil.
>>8688999
Funny story. King James was gay and borderline open about it, and loved to give his boyfriend titles and lands, and this drove the church into a frothing rage. The only reason the King James Bible was even commissioned was as an offer of appeasement to get the church off his back so he could keep fucking his boyfriend in peace.
>>8695637
Awww, that is a sweet story.
Thanks for m̶a̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ sharing it!
(he was clearly too ugly to ever have a bf)
>>8695491
WTF I hate sinning now!
I'm pretty sure our Creator loves all of us equally. That includes gay people.
>>8695669
Why do you think he had to keep giving him stuff to stay around?
>>8695775
God isn't in any Abrahamic religion then.
>>8695900
Abrahamic religions are attempts to understand our Creator and what he wants from us. They are all equally valuable, but they are imperfect. They become useless the second they stagnate, which is what most of them are doing now.
God always wants us to improve and grow. He wants us to move forward. That means we need to be progressive.
>>8693756
I don't care if they're not sincere enough to recognize their wrongs, saying the truth is good.
>>8687769
I love the hysterical, hallucinated look in that picture. An accurate representation of christians..
>>8697004
>Truth
Awful convenient that your version of the Bible is the "truth" when every denomination and sub-group of churches in the world have different interpretations of that same truth.
>>8698512
And ?
>>8695491
Do you have any argument not based on your religious beliefs?
Because almost no one here even believes the Abrahamic God exists.
If you want to convince us, you'll have to try a secular argument, you can't just say we're evil because the Bible says so if all of us think of it as an old, mundane book.
>>8698519
The implication is that he doubts your particular interpretation of the Bible is correct, when hundreds of others exist.
>>8699058
Sure he can, because the fact that you don't believe the Bible is inherently the word of God just contributes to his worldview that you are fallen and wicked.
Religionfags have a pretty much invincible circular logic that fuels their beliefs.
>>8687769
Y'all think Jesus had a big juicy cock?
>>8687769
god, we really need some mods or even janitors in here
1. You don't have to repent of your sins or stop sinning to be saved, it seems OP believes this works salvation.
2. Homosexuality is a sin that the government should punish with death according to the old testament, that part of the old testament is not fulfilled like the dietary laws people like to bring up, the story of the woman about to be stoned before Jesus stops it is a legal snafu he works out of similar to the story about taxes (Jesus does not care if you pay taxes or not)
3. Burning in lust for the same sex is a sign of reprobation (God rejecting you and turning you over to your own wants), this doesn't mean all LGBT are reprobates, if they don't hate God, want to rape, are filled with murder, or are filled with nearly every form of sin, they may not be a reprobate yet, it doesn't happen when you think about a dick for the first time, it's a process that leads to a moment when God is finished with you, so many homosexuals or trannies and shit can still turn from this lifestyle.
4. To be saved, don't worry about your lifestyle, If you believe Christ is God in the flesh who was born of a virgin and lived a sinless life to die on the cross, be buried, was raised by God 3 days later and atones for our sins completely with his blood, then you're saved, you don't have to stop doing any sins, you don't have to go to any church or read any book or do anything, every bad thing in your life doesn't matter because Christ payed for your entrance with his perfect life, that's the basis of Christianity and what it means to be saved without works.
5. These queers might be living in a worse sin than this Christian, but for OP to ask how living in sin feels or if it hurts to know you're hurting God, he should ask himself because it is clear nobody is ridden of their sinful nature until death or the renewal of their body, OP himself is living in sin. God will forgive any sin repented of by those who believe on his Son, they're all atoned for, we all know our sin is wrong.
>>8702598
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the minds of christians look like. Don't make fun of them too harshly.
>>8687843
I'm not sure why you are against it, it's not like jesus being a person once is some kind of big deal and definitely proves the bible is real.
>>8688942
>Repent of your wicked ways before you're all consumed with diseases.
But lesbians have low diseases than even straight girls.
>>8689150
>From these peculiar decisions we can safely conclude that Jesus Christ could not have been a straight man.
Don't forget he had a harem of 12 dudes.
>>8702970
This. Plus it's pretty likely he was simply because each additional person lying about meeting him makes the odds that they're all lying lower.
It's easy to make up a figure like Moses via verbal tradition becoming distorted over hundreds of years. It's a lot less likely a person is 100% fabricated if people are traveling the world telling first hand accounts.
>>8702964
Poe's law
I love Buddhism
>>8705422
Buddhism is retarded.
Asking to prove Jesus was real is like asking to prove that Mohammad or the Buddha was real. Will you also need proof that the pharaohs of Egypt? That Julius Caesar was real? That Napoleon was real?
why is this thread still up