Consent is important.

good post op

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>>8654275
It's way more fun when you ask her to stop and she says 'no', slaps you around, calls you names...

No one likes a cock tease. Don't start shit you can't finish.

>>8654275
I'm confused. Which one is being raped?

>>8654318
The blonde girl

>>8654302
t. rapist who doesn't stop when his partner is freaking out

>>8654275

wtf, no one worth anything thinks it doesn't

cutesy comics don't stop rape, rapists know it;s wrong and don't care

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>>8654368
yeah saying "consent is important" is going to do anything.
their wasnt even anything i could do but cry when i got pinned down and choked.

>>8654275
I had a similar experience yesterday.
I was getting a blowjob, my first one, but I ended up having to stop because it was too much. It was almost painfully sensitive.

I'm almost glad I'm circumcised.

>>8656385
>painfully sensitive
did he use his teeth?

>>8656391
No, he didn't.

>>8654368
>thinking feminists care about rape
They don't give a shit idiot, that's why they never talk about it. They only talk about those bastards who aren't constantly asking "you ok? want to continue? sure? still ok now? how about now?"

Except when the guy if hot and doing that would be unsexy of course, unless they change their mind afterwards.

>not only stopping with a safeword
It's like you /want/ sex to be boring.

>>8654275
This kind of thing only works in an already established relationship. When I was a kid I constantly said no or I was uncomfortable with what was happening. Saying no I don't want to do that every few minutes until eventually I just let him do what we wanted. This same pattern went on for years.

>>8654275
But women can't rape.

>>8656472
She's not a woman.

>>8656385
>I'm almost glad I'm circumcised.
Don't even joke about that.

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>>8656474

>>8654275
yep, it's important to avoid literally all mention of it

>>8656537
I said almost.
I'm not.

>>8656414

Wait what? Are you saying you think you have to be in an established relationship with someone to not get raped?

>>8656398
bullshit how many guys do you fuck

>>8656553
Her girlfriend is blowing her. Also compare their bodyshapes in the last panel.

>>8656579
>citation needed

>>8656595
Just saying what happened to me and how I coped with trauma. I don't think I'm well.

>>8656623
This triggers the curehon.

>>8656622
Maybe she has very long vagina.

>>8656678
I haven't heard it called that before. Clitty is the usual one.

>>8655144
Hot, pls green

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>>8654275
Only turbo edgelords and sociopaths think consent isn't important.

>>8654275
Holy shit, consensual cute lewds are my fucking favorite, please post more shit like this, 2 boys, 2 girls, hetero, anything but post more.

>>8656385
Same faggot here.

Is there anyone else that has had a similar experience? I thought my dick was numb because I couldn't feel much during masturbation, but it feels TOO good and overwhelming from a blowjob.

>>8656385
>I ended up having to stop because it was too much
>almost painfully sensitive
>>8658098
>feels TOO good and overwhelming

I just don't understand this at all.

>>8654275
the dick is more important.

>>8658104
How? It feels too good, to the point it's overwhelming and painful, enough to make me stop. I was almost crying.

>>8656587
I'm sorry, I react strongly to circumcision.

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>>8657085
My cousin was in the part of the school he shot up when he did. Thankfully she wasnt hurt.

>>8660997
because you have anal autism

learn to accept there's worse shit in the world then losing some dick skin faggot

>>8661556
Having your private parts forcibly skinned for no reason is something to care about.

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>>8654368
>>8657085
I think the problem is that not every understands what legally constitutes as rape or sexual assault. Not everyone who is a rapist intends to be one. It's a more nuanced issue than "Rapists are evil and want to rape people."

How many drinks until you can't have sex? Is not admitting to being trans before sex denying the ability to have informed consent? Can consent be withdrawn retroactively? Does sex between a 17 year old and 18 year old count as rape? If you pay for sex, are they required to complete it? If you convince someone to have sex with you, is it coercion and therefore rape?

It's a complicated issue and saying that only evil morons don't understand it is only shutting down the conversation. Obviously it's best to err on the side of caution and not push these situations, but in the heat of the moment, mistakes are made. That's why discussion is important: so that people understand what constitutes non-consensual sex so that they are able to avoid those situations.

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>>8661632
It doesn't help that people are constantly trying to change the definition of rape and sexual assault. I mean, just look at this shit.

>>8661700
The easiest way to look at it is this: don't do something that will harm, humiliate, or violate another person or their autonomy... ...Unless they specify that they want that, in a situation where they can safely and sanely do so.

...Yeah.

Also just assume any nude or pornographic content you send is public.

>>8661632
>Not everyone who is a rapist intends to be one.
>Tfw you accidentally rape someone

>>8661632

This cartoon or the OP don't address any of that though

>>8661819
I didn't claim they did. But they did open up a discussion about consent which allowed for discourse. Whereas the mentality that "rapists know rape is bad" shuts down the discussion, because it implies the conversation about consent serves no purpose; that it isn't needed for morally good people, and that it would be wasted on morally bad people... when often it's not so black and white.

>>8661815
>tfw no face

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>>8654275
If a killer put a knife to my throat and said "have sex with your mother or I'm gonna kill your father while having sex with you, I would have sex with myself.

>>8662104
How to start a discourse about why feminism is wrong then?

>>8662211
Feminism has become a movement which caters to the special interests of women's groups while ignoring or even encouraging the the suffering of men--a massive failure for a group touting themselves as being about "equality." When it comes to consent, feminism fails to address the real problems in favor of blaming men and absolving women of accountability. They push a false narrative of over-inflating college rape statistics, claiming that men cannot be victims of rape (or that women are incapable of rape), and discourage the justice system by advocating the lie that women would never falsely accuse someone of rape and that all accusers should be put on a pedestal above scrutiny.

I'm not a feminist, and I don't think my stance on consent would align me with them. If anything, it goes against their narrative.

>>8655144
sorry that happened i hope you can heal

>>8654275
Consent really doesn't matter. Women only get really turned on when their consent is ignored and most women only cum from being raped.

If you can't be held responsible for yourself then don't go out and have sex. When you have sex it's your responsibility, no matter how drunk or fucked up you are.

>>8654275
Other half of the image:

Ignore filename, had to find it on tumblr.

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>>8665112
fuck it didn't send, i'm mentally handicapped

>>8664822
>Consent really doesn't matter. Women only get really turned on when their consent is ignored and most women only cum from being raped.
[citation needed]

>If you can't be held responsible for yourself then don't go out and have sex. When you have sex it's your responsibility, no matter how drunk or fucked up you are.
So the rapist has no responsibility whatsoever for taking advantage of a drunk person? Even when it was clear that the person in question did not consent, but was unable to put up a fight?

>>8661632
>If you pay for sex, are they required to complete it?
Customer rights should never, ever take priority over the rights to one's own body, that's my opinion. I'm fully aware that legal prostitution is very hard (if not impossible) to combine with this principle.

Where I live, selling sex isn't illegal, but buying sex is (the porn industry is exempt as long as it follows certain regulations). This basically kills 2 birds with one stone, where the buyer is always in the wrong since they are the one who (((potentially))) took advantage of the seller, while not putting blame on the victim. And no, I'm not declaring every sex worker on the planet legally incompetent, as I'm sure there are many who are in it of their own accord. But at the same time, I'm convinced that if it's legal to buy the rights to someone else's body, there will be many cases where sex workers are abused without being able to expect any juridical protection.

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>>8654275
its not ethical to kiss people before revealing you have a feminine penus

>>8662391
saved

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>>8660997
girls like it more.. and so does milo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI3Cb7YHtR0

>>8661632
Literally every single one of those questions is a jewgle search away. It's only "complicated" if you're an inbred phoneposter.

>download.jpg
Every time.

>>8665141
Different anon but I know the rape thing is true because I'm a woman (mtf) myself.

>>8665250
This anon is Christian, I can tell because it lied and Christians always lie.

t. Christian

>>8665258
>this "logic"

>>8665141
>Where I live, selling sex isn't illegal, but buying sex is
The "women can do no wrong" method.

>>8665278
This anon is a Christian, I can tell because it insulted a goodpost instead of one of the countless nazipedoposts it could have chosen to insult, and Christians always insult goodposts and defend pedoposts.

>>8665281
rotating the women in and out of jail doesn't solve the problem
but scaring the johns into respectability can help

the main reasons it is illegal is because wives complain and muh sky-dad

>>8656629
See a therapist

>>8665326
>the main reasons it is illegal is because wives complain and muh sky-dad
Not in progressive-controlled Nordic paradises.

if you don't have a weapon and aren't willing to kill then you don't deserve to be safe

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>>8665397
Nor in Las Vegas.
I don't know that I would call pimping progressive, however.

>inb4 "but the woman is in control!!"

>>8665508
>REEEE CONSENTING ADULTS GIVING A VOLUNTARY SERVICE FOR MONEY IS EVIL

fuck off

>>8658144
I know this feel, don't worry.

>>8665508
Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas, idiot.

>>8665540
And yet somehow, magically, it still happens.
Really makes you think about the ramifications of "laws"

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>>8665605
>we told people to not do something and they still do it!
>despite no one being harmed from it
>BUT I THINK ITS BAD SO THEY CANT DO IT!!!1

>>8665618
>I THINK ITS BAD

now you're projecting

>>8665326
>rotating the women in and out of jail doesn't solve the problem
Sure it does. It scares them into respectability.

>>8665710
no it doesn't.
they are literally back on the street within 10 minutes of being released.
most of them are drug addicts and need a fix.
they have no other skills and can't get hired into anything "respectable" not to mention their pimps will find them and beat them up if they don't give them the greater part of their earnings.

>>8665281
>The "women can do no wrong" method.
These laws apply regardless of the gender of whoever's involved. Their main purpose is to minimize prostitution, given the assumption that a lot of sex workers fare badly if someone else has the right to buy their body. The seller is often in a disadvantaged position due to financial reasons and/or dependency on a pimp. If the seller, on top of this, is also treated as a criminal, they are much less likely to report, or even able to expect juridical protection, in case of abuse.

How is this method specifically implying that "women can do no wrong"? And for what reason is it so important to put some kind of blame on female sex workers (never mind male ones), as I get the feeling you are trying to say here? Isn't the final decision to buy a service (unless extortion is involved, which would be handled by a court as a special case) always taken by the buyer?

>>8665618
>>>/pol/

>>8665710
>It scares them into respectability.
People who have built their entire lifestyles around something which is criminal have little to no respect for the laws they brake left, prisons are like taxpayer-paid hotels to them. If the stay is unpleasant, it is perhaps considered a nuisance, and their suffering will please eventual victims and onlookers. But it won't really change anything.

In the case of violent lifestyle criminals which have done obvious harm to others, keeping them off the street for as long as possible is generally the best thing to do. They don't consider serving time stigmatizing in any way, quite the contrary.

But who, exactly, is most likely to fare badly when it comes to prostitution, apart from the prostitutes themselves? Who gains anything from locking them up and watching them suffer, except for conservative Christians who consider them immoral? As this >>8665777 anon mentioned, they will be back on the street soon enough. I'm running out of characters, see what I wrote above regarding prostitution laws.

>>8666149
>These laws apply regardless of the gender of whoever's involved.
I bet you'd defend other sexist laws like maternity leave or rape being defined as penetration the exact same way.

>>8665397
>Nordic paradises
You mean authoritarian shit holes?

>>8666269
Exactly.

>>8666250
Try asking again without begging the question.

>>8666269
>>8666446
Authoritarian how?

>>8666524
>asking again
I wasn't asking anything, just making an observation of your sexism. Speculation your evasiveness confirms.

>>8666549
Of course I'm evasive, because I don't feel like playing along with your loaded accusations unless you motivate them first.

You're shitposting with a logical fallacy, like saying:
"I bet you're a retarded Pepsi drinker when I know Coke is superior".
The other person either replies with:
"I like Pepsi and it's not retarded because..."
or simply refuses to play along.
Regardless of the answer, you still go:
"So you admit to being a retarded Pepsi drinker!"

If you want to have a serious discussion, by all means, motivate in what ways you're speculating I'd defend which parts of maternity leave and rape defined as penetration, and why that's sexist, according to you.

>>8666867
>calling sexism out for what it is is loaded
>refusing to counter the observation that you're sexist is "not playing along"

>>8666929
Major disappointment, every anon I've tried to get an interesting discussion going with the last few days chicken out like this, greentexting.

You're the one who opened with accusations, the burden of backing those up lies with you, before I can give you a meaningful reply. I won't even bother trying to defend myself against loaded speculative accusations, since I'm not playing along in logical fallacies, as mentioned above.

So, let's give it one last try:
What's sexist about maternity leave (are we talking about its mere existence, or specific implementations, why), and what are you even trying to say about rape being defined as penetration (that it should or shouldn't be)? And what stance, exactly, are you even accusing me of taking in these questions?

>>8667339
My accusations are backed by your responses to them. Your stance is revealed the same way.

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>>8667395
Tell me what my stance is then and why it's sexist, anon. I'm waiting.

>>8667472
You've made your sexism evident. I'm not playing along with your pretense of innocence.

>>8667485
Still waiting.

>>8667489
lrn2read bigot

>>8667501
Perfectly able to, still waiting.

>>8667506
>Perfectly able to
It doesn't show.

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>tfw you will never be woken up by your boyfriend fucking your ass while you're bound, gagged, blindfolded and too dazed to understand what's going on

Feels bad

>>8667536
Still waiting for a reply to the questions I asked in the last paragraph of this >>8667339 post anon. I'll check back tomorrow.

>>8667584
Answer was in my reply. Maybe you'll read it this time.

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>>8667594
I did and it wasn't. I don't really care about your self-stroking accusations, I just want you to motivate them in order to have an interesting discussion. Obviously, that was one again too much to ask, and you chickened out like pretty much any other anon.

At least have the courtesy to use sage the next time you're going to write something along the lines of "Alas, you refusing to refute me calling you a sexist proves mine theories right, I don't have to explain a thing!".

>>8669319
If you wanted a discussion you'd be defending your sexism instead of evading admitting it. That's all you need to do to prove me wrong and prove you do want to debate. You won't do it though, because you don't.

>>8667582
>boyfriend is too sub to want to do stuff like this to me
>has given me permission to blow/ride him while he's sleeping
I-I guess it'll do

>>8667582
>tfw you just realized that you'd have no problem doing this to someone but no gf

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>>8656400
What's your safe word??? open question 4 everybody.

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>>8665112
It's ok bb I gotchu

>>8670785
>If you wanted a discussion you'd be defending your sexism instead of evading admitting it.
I'm neither defending nor admitting anything, on principle. You have already decided that I'm sexist on your own by coming with loaded accusations, based on your subjective opinions about certain laws (I'm not even entirely sure what you're trying to say about them). I'm not playing along unless you motivate those claims first.

>That's all you need to do to prove me wrong and prove you do want to debate.
That's not how grown-up debates work, anon, you can't just fire off accusations without motivating your own opinion, then expect the other part to do all the work. That's literally on the level of shitpost OPs starting a thread with "Pepsi drinkers are retarded prove me wrong".

Therefore, I don't really care what you call me, but I'm not playing along. If you just try and answer those questions I asked you a few posts ago, I'll gladly reply, and maybe we'd make 4chan a slightly nicer place in the process. I'm still waiting.

>>8665141
>Customer rights should never, ever take priority over the rights to one's own body,
Don't i have a right not to get robbed?

>>8671000
I've fully pointed out how your sexist is evident. Try reading my threads. You obviously haven't so far.

this seem like the right thread to ask.
Back when I was self medding at 17 my mom would occasionally ambush me after showers, force me to bare my chest, and groped my breasts looking for evidence of hrt.
even though it wasn't sexual it was still extremely uncomfortable and its hard for me to be touched by my mom without instinctively shirking away.

Is that sexual assault?
or just something I should just get over

>>8673175
>Is that sexual assault?
Yes, very much so. In fact as a minor it was child sex abuse too.

>>8673179
I see
thanks for the clarification anon.
idk its weird to say or think that i was abused or whatever. like, it was relatively tame, not sexually motivated, and so many people have gone through so much worse that it feels demeaning to them to put myself in the same category.

>>8673214
>like, it was relatively tame,
Relatively tame rape is still rape. Relatively tame assault is still assault.

>not sexually motivated,
I doubt that to be honest.

You will be demeaning yourself if you exclude yourself from the category just because of others' experiences.

>>8671554
If it means demanding the rights to another person's body, then maybe legal sex trade is not that good of an idea in the first place. That's what I think.

>>8672548
What threads? You mean replies? Every single one and they're still just "you're not playing by my rules so I don't have to explain a thing, I'm just going to say that I'm right". So, here I am, still waiting.

>>8671554
It's called a refund.
Prostitution doesn't buy you the right to someone's body any more than a massage or a dental appointment, or any other service that requires one's hands.
You're paying for a service. If they won't fulfil that service, get your money back (or a portion of it).

You also can't brazenly bite into an apple in the supermarket just because you threw a dollar in the display, there's a certain way to go about these things.

>>8673175
That's honestly terrible and it's definitely not okay that your mom did that. I'd call it child abuse not sexual assault, but that's stepping over a lot of boundries.

>>8673254
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/assault-battery-aggravated-assault-33775.html